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tell us about how you ship lane and ethan, cause how i see is lane is very obsessed with him and thats of course the romantic hate vibes. in my mind is basically the same dinamic as lego batman and lego joker, but i wanna know your take
So Iāve been really sitting on this question for most of the day because I have a lot to say about this.
Thereās more under the cut, but the short answer is I ship them together mostly because how I view them as Narrative Foils who are both fixated/obsessed with each other (for different but equally interesting reasons). But also, itās not outright hate they harbor (at least not in Rogue Nation, in Fallout that is more accurate), Ethan understands Laneās motivations even if he despises the manās actions, and Lane is very much interested in Ethanās potential as an anarchist/terrorist.
I think itās interesting you cite Lego Batman and Jokerās dynamic as the frame of reference for Your interpretation of Lane x Ethan, and thatās totally valid. Iāve not seen lego batman but what I understand is that that dynamic is romantically coded but played more cartoonishly, which is how I initially viewed Lane x Ethan.
You can absolutely play to the concept comedically, I think there is something inherently funny in shipping a hero with a villain (your mileage may vary.) But for me what draws me to actually writing fic is the angst potential of loving or lusting after someone who is ideologically opposed to you.
I think, and reasonable people are free to disagree with my opinion, that Ethan as a character harbors dark thoughts and feelings, but for several reasons lets them go. 1) He understands that there are consequence in giving into his impulsive anger (see: MI3 when he dangles Owen Davian from a fucking plane, which directly results in his own wife getting kidnapped) The idea that Ethan could never turn is something that floats around in the fandom, and while itās true to say Ethan would never turn (itās just something imbued into his character by now) I think we donāt explore the āwhyā of that enough.
Ethan has a support system, where Lane does not.
Also, Ethan has a history of rogue behavior that even if it is in the service of the āgreater goodā, is the justification that the villains of the last three films ultimately rely on for their own actions. So, while we the audience understand Ethan to be the good guy, in universe this is the exact reason all these spy organizations fear/distrust Ethan.
Comparatively speaking, Ethan is more well-adjusted than Solomon Lane, because despite the things he goes through, he doesnāt let his crisis of faith ever deter him from doing what he thinks is right.
In contrast, Lane lets his anger drive him into letting the world burn. His anger is destructive, but it serves his purpose of enacting revenge. But he is much more detached emotionally, and there are multiple ways to interpret Lane as a character, but I see him as someone who doesnāt want to admit he may have emotions. Which is understandable as again, he was also a former field agent.
The reason he keeps Ilsa around is that he sees potential in her, potential to see the world as he sees it. Vinter speaks at Ethan, asking aloud: āWhat does he see in you, I wonder?ā. Ā While Vinter may not see what Lane is looking for in Ethan, the fact that Lane doesnāt order his outright death is telling, at least to Vinter. (Although that is not enough to stop Vinter from trying regardless.)
There are parts of the script that where cut out of the final film that makes this dynamic more obvious, rather than the subtext it is in the narrative. And while, when analyzing their dynamic I can only rely on what makes it into the final product, the fact that Lane wants to ācorrupt/torture/seduceā Ethan has always been intended. However one chooses to read that is up to the viewer, especially because this interpretation of their dynamic relies on subtext.
I think, personally, itās interesting to explore this dynamic as basically like this:
Lane: Arenāt you tired of Being Nice, donāt you just want to go apeshit?
Ethan:
it's about the ideological conflict, and the begrudging understanding. Lane and Ethan function as narrative foils for each other, where they could have turned out as each other, had circumstances been different. āThe Same thing thatās wrong with me is wrong with you (Derogatory)ā
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