#httyd discourse

I sat bolt upright a few nights ago and wrote this. Stay with me, because I think I’m onto something here!

Defenders of the Wing

The Grimborns are able to sneak onto the island and steal the Eruptodon with no one seeing them carrying a huge-ass dragon to their ship. There's no way that they did that without some kind of inside help. Throk is following Mala around, but he is captain of the guard (or at least second-in-command to Mala). He would have been capable of incapacitating the guards, or ensuring those loyal to him were 'on guard' at the right time. "There should be guards here," says Mala when they discover the Great Protector is missing – we never find out where they went. Likely they just abandoned their post or went with the Grimborns, on Throk's command.

The face of a guilty man

hookfang looks sooo baddd

Race to the edge is cannon to the storyline so it messes with the ending so much

Did they just ignore an island that needs a dragon to not burn up in lava ??

What about the razorwhips?? Wouldn't they just go extinct if both genders were co-existing in the hidden world? They also have an entire island to live on,,

And at the end of Race to the Edge, Valka gets the Wilderbeast's egg. If that's the same dragon in the second movie, and only a few years have past, that dragon grows incredibly quickly 😭 But Valka says her Wilderbeast has protected them for years in an ice cove covered in lush plants. Two different Wilderbeasts?? What happened to the Wilderbeast on Beserker island??

What’s with this sudden rise of thinking people who criticize certain aspects of HTTYD 3 or have different opinions when it comes to certain parts of the franchise have “missed the entire point of the franchise” or “didn’t understand HTTYD 3″? 

Like I’ve seen some people say that others shouldn’t treat their opinions about HTTYD 3 as fact (I agree) and say their own opinions about HTTYD 3 aren’t fact but then they say crap like the stuff mentioned above and just??? So your interpretations and thoughts about HTTYD 3 are opinions, and their interpretations and thoughts about HTTYD 3 are opinions, but their opinions are so wrong they missed the entire point of the franchise and didn’t understand the movie at all?

Like sorry that I don’t think Toothless was portrayed as just an animal throughout most of the franchise. Yes, I think the bond between an animal and a human can be deep and meaningful and you can certainly have an animal as a friend, even a best friend, and yes animals can certainly be more intelligent than a lot of people think. I just don’t think that was how Hiccup and Toothless’ friendship was meant to be portrayed originally, and personally I find the idea of a friendship between a boy and a creature that doesn’t quite think the same way, but has human-like intelligence more compelling and fitting within the franchise and also more interesting considering there’s already so many “boy befriends animal” movies out there. I don’t think I’m missing a major point of the franchise or crapping on animal-human bonds for thinking this way. I don’t think others are missing a major point of the franchise for having a different opinion. Please people, stop acting like you’re smarter than others for thinking Toothless was just an animal all along or whatever.

No, I don’t dislike HTTYD 3 just because the ending isn’t happy. If any HTTYD 3 fans are reading this...please don’t say things like this. Please. It’s so annoying to read things like that. 

Whoops this is longer than I intended and is kinda disjointed and I probably didn’t word some things very well but man behavior like this really annoys me and I just had to rant and share my thoughts on certain things.

I think it's more about "we gotta make an obviously girly dragon" that has some people irked. Like me. But it could have been pink & I think it's cute that she looks to be blue eyed leucistic like my pet snake! From a design standpoint I personally would like more spikes but sexual dimorphism IS a THING in nature so ppl gotta chill. Of course not always & of course less so in reptiles but it's a family movie.

Not everything has to be progressive af.

At least we'll always have Stormfly, the angriest & pointiest lady. Ya'll angry about The Straights getting dragons. My ace ass over here sighing like "cool, gotta sit through completely unnecessary romance in my favourite things some more, it's fine."

I usually don’t rant much, or talk about my own opinion on this site, mostly because it would probably end in a big explosion, but now, I really need to speak about something: the HTTYD discourse. Y’all didn’t know I was in that fandom? Yeah, well I am, and let me say that I am EXCITED for the third movie (still can’t believe we have to wait almost a whole year smh) and if it’s as good as the second one, we’re in for a threat. But I’ve noticed that there was a lot of different reactions on Tumblr; a lot of people were as excited as I am but others seemed to say that they were disappointed in Dreamworks because they wanted to give Toothless a female counterpart and forced ‘heteronormativity’ on him or something.

sighs

Alright, first of all, let’s be clear: just because you’re gay, doesn’t mean every character ever is? Okay? Okay.

Second of all, why are y’all making a big deal about something that really isn’t? Just because they gave him a female mate doesn’t mean that it’s ‘heteronormativity’. There’s a reason behind all of it. You’re all complaining about the movies, but may I remind you that those movies were based off of actual books? And that they try to keep it consistent? I haven’t read the books, but I saw something that in the books, there is also a female Light Fury that Toothless falls for, so stop blaming Dreamworks. If you want to put the blame on someone, put it on the books. Another important point is that you all seem to forget that Toothless’ kind is almost non-existent. He is the last of his freaking kind. So what would giving him a male mate bring him? Oh yay, representation, that’s absolutely great! I agree, it is, but what will happen when Toothless dies? Homosexuality is great and all but you can’t mate. They may have sex all they want but they will make no babies. Toothless will die and- oh no! NO MORE NIGHT FURIES. Toothless needs a female mate to assure the survival of his kind. It’s not ‘heteronormativity’, it’s SURVIVAL. Yes, a gay mate for him would have been great for representation, and I’m not saying that it’s bad, not at all, but it also wouldn’t have been practical. Gay relationships are great but sometimes you have to look at the bigger problem.

Third of all, why are y’all talking sexuality when it’s literally about dragons? Do y’all expect Toothless to see a make Dragon and be like ‘oh my god I’m gay’? It’s a Dragon, for Christ’s sake. Animals, unlike humans, do not have a sense of sexuality. Most of the time, when the pair up, yes it’s for love, but it’s also for mating purposes. They don’t know what sexualities. Could Toothless have been gay? Yes, he could have but that’s not the important thing here. Just because you headcanon him as gay doesn’t mean that he really is. It’s a thing I see a lot on Tumblr. The character you saw as gay isn’t actually gay? ‘HETERONORMATIVITY!1!1!1’

‘I WILL SUE THE COMPANY’

Like CHILL. I’ve seen that in the Descendants fandom as well.

“CARLOS IS GAY AND DISNEY IS A COWARD!1!1!1 WHY FORCE A HETERO RELATIONSHIP ON HIM”

Haven’t y’all heard of bisexuality? (Also, Descendants is also based off a book... just sayin’)

Back to HTTYD. The fandom is being ridiculous. You are all making this movie about Toothless’ sexuality when this is not what the movie is about. Why is nobody talking about the ‘There were dragons when I was a boy’

GUYS. DRAGONS MIGHT DISAPPEAR. DISAPPEAR. WHY IS THE GENDER A FRICKEN DRAGON SO IMPORTANT?

Let’s take for a second that Toothless was actually straight and that Dreamworks gave him a gay relationship. No one would have complained right? No, of course not, because it’s a gay relationship, of course it’s okay. But why is it so controversial to give an animal a heterosexual relationship, especially when that animal hasn’t been confirmed to be gay, and ESPECIALLY when the said animal is the last of his kind?

Also, one last thing: Pride month. Why are y’all making it a big deal just because it’s pride month. ‘OH MY GOD, GIVING AN HETEROSEXUAL RELATIONSHIP TO A DRAGON DURING PRIDE MONTH???? THAT’S DISRESPECTING THE LGBTQ+ COMMUNITY!1!1!1!1!1’

Like honestly, this is getting ridiculous. Do you think that Dreamworks did it on purpose just to piss of the gays? NO. Just- stop. Not everything is about sexualities. Not everything is about gays (even tho Tumblr makes it seem like it). Not everything has to be political.