#godtier analysis

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Knight of Breath (Rustblood/Derse), Maid of Rage (Bronze/Prospit), Mage of Time (Gold/Derse), Witch of Breath (Mutant/Derse), Page of Void (Olive/Derse), Maid of Doom (Jade/Derse), Seer of Life (Teal/Prospit), Witch of Heart (Cerulean/Prospit), Prince of Blood (Indigo/Derse), Knight of Light (Purple/Prospit), Heir of Mind (Violet/Derse), Rogue of Space (Fuschia/Prospit)

7 derse, 5 prospit, not a bad balance. You generally don't want to stray too far from even, but this is certainly close enough.

8 active, 4 passive. (knights are active in all the ways that matter so shush) also not a terrible ratio, but not a good one. Starts straying into dangerously unbalanced territory, but should still be fine. (note that being too unbalanced results in a loss of versatility. In an all active session, large foes like the king can become an issue when no one is buffing, and in an all passive session, a player that gets isolated becomes easy pickings.)

This session lacks a hope player, a bard, a thief and a sylph. That's not too bad, especially with the lack of sylph replaced by more maid, and the thief's role approximated by knights. The lack of hope player means no deus ex machinas, and the players are likely to suffer from a case of big sad.

The knight of breath does support, and cleans up what the others can't get to. The maid of rage makes sure that everyone understands what they're here for, and doesn't get too excited. The mage of time does time stuff, prevents paradoxes. The witch of breath makes the breath good. A useful pair with the knight of breath. The page of void makes sure nothing gets too busy or complicated The maid of doom kills stuff and produces the big sad The seer of life helps avoid the big sad, and keeps everyone alive and incredibly wealthy The witch of heart helps people self actualize and be the best them. They're a cerulean, perhaps with mind control, which could be really damaging if they use their psionics and not their words. The prince of blood prevents toxic relationships and keeps everyone unrestricted The knight of light guides and executes The heir of mind is big brain moment The rogue of space is frog and speed

Lot of movement, lot of sad.

The session will lack breath and light. With a knight and witch of breath, it should start operating as if it had normal breath levels fairly quickly. Maybe the veil is much closer, so no one can go between the planets, but the knight or witch of breath could blow the soon to be meteors away, and the rogue of space could teleport people, ignoring the close veil. The players don't know much. Perhaps they started playing sburb accidentally, and all their sprites were useless. The purple and violet will be able to deal pretty well with low light, so that's not a big issue either

The big sad. With maids of rage and doom, there's a whole lot of sad being created. If the seer of life, witch of heart, and maybe page of void don't deal with that early, the session is in danger of just getting too sad to continue. No one would think they could actually achieve their goals, and everyone might just flee to the dream bubbles or initiate an unnecessary scratch. If the seer of life helps people find happiness, the witch of heart helps them find self, and the page of void uses their negation aura wisely, they'll deal with the big sad just fine.

The rogue of space may be helped by the mage if they manage to stop suffering and fussing over paradoxes long enough to be useful, but the knights are likely to help out anyway. No one asked them, but they sure are here. The knight of breath acts as a poor man's time player, collecting frogs real quickly, though not as well as a time player, and the knight of light sits in the background providing advice and probably being smug. You have a good setup for the breeding, and it should succeed without too much fuss, though they might have to take a break to wait for the mage to arrive, or be happy with a cancerous frog, as a time player is probably needed for success.

Pretty even on all of the combat roles. I'll elaborate more on this in further analyses, and you can ask for it specifically if you want me to elaborate on this session, but it's kinda boring for this one, you're just real balanced.

Also opinion on umbrella as a weapon and how to fight with one?

Ooh maid of space!!! I love maids so much, I happen to be one myself!!!! Alright boys let's get into this it might be a long one.

Maids are often characterized as those who create their aspect, or create through/with their aspect. Aradia creates time more or less as she makes copies of herself throughout paradox space to aid in battles and what not. Jane creates life by healing herself after rbeing stabbed and resurrecting her friends, though that ability is limited. I can speak for porrim, the Canon maid of space, as we never really see her in battle or use her abilities as far as I'm aware. The inverse of a Maid is a Bard, and the opposite the classpect as a whole is a Bard of Time.

Maids typically start off as doormats, relying on others for whatever their classpect may be.

A maid of space may not be very creative or peppy on their own at first, maybe relying on others to start relationships or tell them what to make or draw or wear. I think that's a key difference in Heir vs maid, Maids rely on other for their aspect at first while Heirs are (in a very simplified description) full of their aspect, an Heir of Space would know what they want and be very intuitive and bounce from interest to interest without a care.

Once a Maid of Space starts to develop they'll eventually get their foot in the door and become more.. what's the word... uhhh. Firm in their decisions and opinions. They'll stop relying on others opinions and start going with what THEY think will look or fit best. To quote Dahni, they are very "if there isn't room, I'll make room" types. Porrim is a good example of this in a very physical sense, her sense of style is unmatched. Maids are supposed to become "made" of their aspect so to speak, so much so they cna share the aspect with everyone in their session.

The challenges for each are interesting too! Both have the task of breeding and raising the Genesis Frog to restart the universe with their respective time player, though for Heirs this can possibly be proven difficult as they can become so enveloped and manipulated by their own aspect it can cloud their view. Maids need to become independent and confident in their own aspect, which can be hard with space especially of people look up to them for their creativity when they feel like their are as bland as everyone else? I'm not sure if that makes sense.

As for the umbrella strife specious! I think it'd be a very interesting weapon, one of my own homestuck au kids have it as a weapon!!! I think it can be used both as a direct weapon and As a defense weapon. Opening it could push opponents back while just outright jabbing it could do a good amount of damage. Not to mention if it's alchemized! You could alchemize it with some like a gun, so when everytime you open a bullet is fired out of the tip or maybe a dart, so it can be both melee and long ranged weapons!!! The options and potential are limitless!!!!!

I hope this was helpful!!!!!!! Sorry if the challenge wasn't good I've never talked abt them before but I'm trying to get better! This was fun!!!! :DD

I’m gonna start with Knight of Life because that’s mine, then I’ll go with people i know and then I’ll do other ones. (I’m more likely to do ones that aren’t explicitly described in the comic)

Knight: gender neutral. exploits their aspect as a weapon, usually for the benefit of others. usually uses their aspects in unorthodox ways as well, utilizing what they already have. at the start of a session, a knight lacks their aspect in some way(like dave’s lack of patience). knights have been known to assist in the breeding of a genesis frog. exact abilities are unclear, and lean more towards being an active class. a knight’s session often lacks their aspect in some way(the danscestors’ session wasn’t well planned[lacked mind], the beta session’s reckoning came early[lacked mind], and the beta trolls were divided by their differences and blood color[lacked bonds/blood]) so their duty is usually to compensate for that in some way(dave fixing the timeline, karkat stopping gamzee’s rampage, etc).

Known knights: Dave Strider (Knight of Time), Karkat Vantas (Knight of Blood), and Latula Pyrope (Knight of Mind).

Life: empathy, healing, improvement of self and others, plants. life players are nature oriented and creative.

a Knight of Life would likely have some sort of health condition that negatively impacts their quality of life, such as asthma or EDS. they would also likely lack physical energy. A Knight of Life’s quest would likely revolve around improving their physical condition and restoring life to their land(solving a famine that was harming the consorts or something like that). Their session might be barren, or the other players might lack the energy and/or motivation, and the knight would have to find some way to remedy that(although there’s not much you can do for a barren session). Knights of life would do anything to protect their friends’ lives, even take on serious injuries/conditions or give their own life. this knight would definitely assist in frog breeding, moreso than any other aspect.

Personality wise, Knights of Life are likely realists, seeing things the way they are. they would see a broken system and say “hey, that’s a broken system!” they would not just recognize flaws, but they would be upset by those flaws and do everything in their power to fix them. like any life player, these knights love nature, but their view on it would likely strongly revolve around the desire to protect that nature and/or use it to protect their friends. if you are a knight of life, you probably like hanging out in the woods and gardening, even if you’re not exactly the best at keeping plants healthy or remembering to go outside. you might cry when anyone dies, not just your loved ones. knights of life definitely love animals too, even the ones that could be considered “ugly” by others. nothing makes knights of life angrier than when someone intentionally harms an innocent life/lives. 

a Knight of Life’s abilities may include but are not limited to:

-bringing someone back from the brink of death(no resurrection though; knights can only work with something that already exists)

-transferring someone else’s ailments to themself

-plant manipulation(speedy growth, shapes, weapons, etc)

-quickly healing themself and others

-maximizing someone’s performance, including their own

-increasing cell production(to the extent of making someone develop lots of tumors very quickly)

-curing illnesses

-extending someone’s life beyond the natural span

the extent to which these things could do would depend on the knight’s level, and almost all of them would likely not be available/fully available until they reached godtier. it’s likely that a mortal Knight of Life could heal others, at the expense of part of their lifespan or general health.

source: MSPA wiki

maid- fixes and becomes their aspect, active.

space- creativity and literal space.

the maid of space starts off without their aspect. they start off unoriginal, or fitting into a usual mold of people and society’s expectations. however, as time goes on, they’ll slowly begin to realize who they really want to be. they begin to express themselves freely and be who they really want to be. and, as time goes on, they’ll start to heal other’s creativity and help others understand who they are!

Thanks for being so patient, my dude!

a seer is great at bullshitting about their aspect. they can make anyone believe they know what theyre talking about in a heartbeat. a seer is kinda like a horse, anxiety ridden out the ass and fast in the heat of the moment. the heat of the moment is when they do their best shit. seers can appear well put together, but theyre far more fucked up than you can imagine. the poor people are like that one damn string thats held up by pure fucking stress.

Those bound to the aspect of Life are the universe's healers. They are concerned with the betterment of themselves and those around them, as well as the onward march of positive progress. Deeply empathetic, they have an intuitive understanding of other's suffering and the best way of righting those wrongs. If you're poisoned, chances are the Life-bound have something for what ails ya. This applies to both physical and mental suffering, though it might not be a cure you'll like. They also have the tendency to put other's needs before their own, which never ends well for anyone, because the Life-bound can grow bitter if they feel their own self-care has had to be shunted aside. At their best, they are great listeners, caretakers, and nurturers. At their worst, the Life-bound are passive aggressive, and pushy-they're certain they know best.

Classpect Analysis: Heir of Space