Fiction science with ghosts is great, and I see people doing physics fiction science with ghosts, or chemistry fictionďżź science with ghosts, or psychology fiction science with ghosts, or physiology fiction science with ghosts, but I want to know about ghost taxonomy.
Ghosts as a whole, are they part of kingdom Animalia, or are they part of a different kingdom, or are they their own kingdom altogether? Are they several different species, or one single species? Do the non dead ghosts thatďżź look like members of kingdom Animalia look that way due to convergent evolution, or is it a form of shapeshifting? I need answers!!
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There is a scientific reason as to why Phantom's skin is blue in a lot of fics and as Dan. Cyanosis is when the skin appears bluish as a result of oxygen deficiency in circulating blood. Danny Phantom's skin only turns blue when he realizes he doesn't actually need to breathe in ghost form and stops doing it.
Danny can enter *into* technology and control/ manipulate it from inside of it. If he enters something made of nano-bots/micro-bots/whatever-the-creator-is-gonna-call-them bots, would he be in/in control of one (1) bot? or all the connected bots?
Okay, so you know the taxonomic classification system??? Like, this thing, where the genus and species make up the scientific name of an organism:Â
(This diagram and all the other diagrams thatâll be on here are made by me so sorry if theyâre messy!!!)
(Picture transcript: downward triangle split into eight sections, labelled (in descending order): domain, kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species.)
Huge Huge Huge credit to @its-rat-time-babey for this idea, because it's so cool and the concepts in that post hugely inspired some of my own takes on this- this being a taxonomic system for ghosts as well as humans!!!!! I'm gonna be referencing both kinds of taxonomy here, so weâll call the ghost one âphasma-defined taxonomyâ just to differentiate!!! :D
There are only seven categories in phasma-defined taxonomy because thereâs not really a kingdom category equivalent (which is the one to do with animals, plants, fungi, etc.), since itâs sort of covered in other sections, but weâll go into the categories themselves now with a diagram!!
(Image Transcript: Diagram is labelled âPhasma-Defined Taxonomyâ. The diagram is a downward triangle split into seven sections, labelled (in descending order): formation, origin, composure, state, subsistence, denomination, and temperament.)
Alrighty, now that weâve got a thing with them all on, hereâs what they mean, and what makes up each category!!!
(Explanations + examples under cut!!)
Formation:
Basically just how much of a ghost they are?? Itâs barely used as a category because obviously the majority are full ghosts, but with the existence of halfas, and mediums (who carry just enough ectoplasmic content to survive in the GZâs atmosphere/be recognised as an ectoplasmic entity), it has to be taken into account. The sections in this category are, as mentioned before: full ghost, halfa, and medium!!
Origin:
How they came to be!! There are only two sections to this category, being natural, and post-Eukarya. Natural just means that they were never a living thing, and were created purely from the GZâs energy (or another ghostâs if weâre getting into Ghost Procreationâ˘). Eukarya refers to a part of the Domain section of the normal classification system (which weâre calling âSapien-Defined Taxonomyâ just to make it easier to differentiate), and short-hand it just means that the organism- multi celled or single- contains a nucleus. Post-Eukarya then means that they used to be made up of cells that had nuclei, but because ectoplasmic cells lack a nucleus (a thought I have about ectoplasmâs properties that Iâll maybe talk about at some point!!!), they donât anymore!!! So, yeah, thereâs natural and post-eukarya.Â
Composure:
Composure is their sentience, and this comes in three sections!!! Sentient, non-sentient, and simplified!!! The definition of sentient is âHaving a faculty, or faculties, of sensation and perception/Experiencing sensation or feelingâ, and then obviously ones in the non-sentient composure lack that!! Simplified is basically a weird spot between, in that they might kind of have a capacity for feeling (or, more specifically, theyâre made of a feeling), but they donât really have sense perception at all- like, certain kinds of âblob ghostâ can be comprised of a certain emotion, but theyâre not really things that think??? Just an emotion that has a form and sometimes a face, if that makes sense.Â
State:
Fairly standard- just what state of matter they are!!! Youâve got solid, gaseous, and subliming!!! Solid and gaseous are pretty self-explanatory- just ghosts who exist exclusively in that state of matter- but subliming ghosts can go between either state!!! (Ghosts/ectoplasm donât have a liquid state, because the solid state already really weird but still a solid?? The closest it gets to being an actual liquid is just. Weird clumps. If I figure out how to word this better Iâll talk about it but rn please please just go with me on this lmao!!!)
Subsistence:
Subsistence refers to how they regain energy!!! The two categories here are ambient and active!! Ambient just means that their body absorbs the ectoplasm in the air automatically without any effort on their part, and active just means that they have to consume/ingest ectoplasm and/or other forms of energy in some way in order to get it into their system!!
Denomination:
This is where we get into the more nuanced categories of phasma-defined taxonomy!!! Denomination just refers to what kind of ghost they are, with examples like shades, wraiths, banshees, and poltergeists all being different denominations!! There are a lot more than this though!!!!
Temperament:
This is probably the broadest category out of all of them, which is why itâs at the bottom, but itâs also easy to understand, since it literally just refers to cores!!! Not going to list every option, but examples include: ice, fire, and electricity!!! There are a ton of different types of core, and the way theyâre externalised can vary wildly between even same core-types, so it can be hard to properly pin down temperament, but itâs also an important one, so thereâs a reason itâs here!!
Their classification is based on their denomination+temperament- like how theyâre based off genus+species for the Sapien-defined taxonomy!!!Â
Right!!! Weâve got the explanations, so now for some examples!!! Weâll start with Vlad just because heâs fun!!!! Hereâs what his classification looks like!!!
(Image Transcript: Downward triangle split into seven sections, labelled (in descending order): halfa, post-eukarya, sentient, solid, ambient, revenant, fire. Vlad is labelled a âfire revenantâ.)
And just for the sake of it, hereâs two more examples!!! Spectra!!
(Image Transcript: Downward triangle split into seven sections, labelled (in descending order): full ghost, post-eukarya, sentient, subliming, active, obake, plasma. Spectra is labelled a âplasma obakeâ.)
And a Danny just for fun (and also so I can mention how much I love him being a banshee)
(Image Transcript: Downward triangle split into seven sections, labelled (in descending order): halfa, post-eukarya, sentient, solid, ambient, banshee, ice. Danny is labelled an âice bansheeâ.)
As for whether or not some ghosts make use of Sapien-defined taxonomy??? They do!!! Itâs particularly useful for post-eukaryotic âanimal ghostsâ like Cujo, because sometimes their denomination can be kind of hard to pin down, so itâs just easier to refer to them through their living classification!!! Like, you couldsay that Cujoâs a Grim, but you donât really know on first glance and not every dog ghost is a Grim, so if you can just say âheâs a dogâ then you circumvent the issue (itâs still good to know though)!!!!
And there we have it!!!! Thatâs pretty much all I have to say about it, but if you have any questions or just want to talk about it more, please do!!! I absolutely love this sort of stuff even if Iâm not like. An expert on it lmao!!! Iâm kinda working on the stuff about ectoplasm as a substance atm, so hopefully Iâll actually post that at some pint because I have Thoughts⢠lmao!! Either way, have a good day!! :D
(Post about ectobiology/ghost anatomy is up now that has some expansion on ghost post-eukaryoticism + some other stuff if you're interested!!!! Here it is!!!)
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Ectobiology: Ectoplasmic Anatomy of Ghosts & Halfas!!!
Okay, I mentioned in my post about ghost taxonomy a couple things about ectoplasm that helped with the different category sections, and I thought itâd be nice to go over that stuff plus some other ideas in more detail!!! Please donât mind too much if the science is a little wonky, because I love this kind of thing but I am not a STEM guy, and my only resource is questionable websites and my own brain!!! Anyway, letâs get into some of it!!!!
(Everything under cut!!! :D)Â
Before I start, I want to make a point of saying that Iâm only talking about Ghost Ectoplasm⢠specifically and not ectoplasm as a whole (i.e., atmospheric/ambient ectoplasm), and while I might mention it in a section or two in terms of how it interacts with Ghost Ectoplasmâ˘, I wonât go into too many details on the stuff itself (Might do a smaller thing for that though too, if I ever get in the mood for ectochemistry I guess!!!)!! (I also mentioned mediums in my taxonomy post, but weâre ignoring them for now because this stuff doesnât really apply to them!!! This is exclusively ghost and halfa stuff!!!)
But, now that thatâs out of the way, here we go!!!!
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Section 1: Ectoplasmâs Prokaryoticism
Iâll start with one of the things that came up in my taxonomy post- specifically to do with why ghosts that were alive at some point are classified as post-eukarya, which definitely raises questions to what theyâre like now. Letâs talk about that!!
Post-eukaryotic kind of implies theyâre now prokaryotic, meaning they lack a nucleus/membrane bound organelles. In the Domain category of taxonomy (the normal not-ghost one lmao!!), there are two other sections other than eukarya, which are bacteria and archaea. I bring these up because they kind of serve as a base to understand ectoplasm with!!! Post-eukarya ghostsâ ectoplasmic structure more closely resembles organisms labelled bacteria, whereas natural ghostsâ more closely resembles archaea. I wanted to make this distinction because it makes sense given their different niches:
(From the three-domain system wikipedia page)
âBacteria tend to be the most prolific reproducers, at least in moderate environments. Archaeans tend to adapt quickly to extreme environments, such as high temperatures, high acids, high sulfur, etc. This includes adapting to use a wide variety of food sources. Eukaryotes are the most flexible with regard to forming cooperative colonies, such as in multi-cellular organisms, including humans.â
An archaean-like structure makes a lot of sense for natural ghosts because of its ability to thrive in extreme conditions, since the Ghost Zone definitely counts as an extreme environment (for non-ectoplasmic entities at least). Bacteria-like qualities, on the other hand, make more sense for post-eukarya ghosts due to them being more likely go into the human world, and thus needing to be much more prolific cell-reproducers and restorers, having to be more âself-sufficientâ in that sense as a result of there being a lesser supply of ectoplasm to draw from.Â
So I feel like I should mention now that Iâm not thinking of ghosts as single-celled organisms here, even though thatâs how prokaryotic organisms usually are because!!! Theyâre not always!!! Itâs been a least a little bit evidenced that certain bacterial species can aggregate together, which is what multicellular organisms do, and even though thereâs a big debate about whether or not we can really call them multicellular, Iâve made the elective decision that we can for ectoplasm!!!! Because they have at least some adhesion even if theyâre pretty easily and harmlessly separated (which we can see in most ghost fights), and because the cells can clearly communicate seeing as they all move as part of a body!!!!
Anyway, back to more structure stuff, Iâm gonna focus on post-eukarya ghosts just because (though a lot of this could be applied vaguely to natural ghosts too) weâre gonna look into a more specific part of it now to do with the subsistence category- which if you didnât read the taxonomy post, is basically how ghosts âgetâ their energy- either by naturally absorbing the ambient ectoplasm in the atmosphere or by having to actively consume energy through any one of various methods.Â
I mentioned before that post-eukaryotic ghosts are more âbacteria-likeâ. But thereâs also a further distinction in the ectoplasmic structure of ambient and active ghosts!!!! Thereâs a type of bacteria called cyanobacteria (also known as blue-green algae) which can perform photosynthesis thanks to them containing internal membranes unlike heterotrophic prokaryotes (that canât produce their own âfoodâ), as well as photosynthetic pigments. Ambient ghosts function in a similar way to this, able to absorb the energy from atmospheric ectoplasm rather than having to actively consume anything- also why most post-eukaryotic ghosts are ambient!!! Itâs advantageous when taking into consideration the lesser ectoplasm supply in the human world; if theyâre constantly, automatically ârechargingâ, then itâs easier to quickly recover from damage (though weâll get onto the specifics of that later)!!!
However!!! Active post-eukaryotic ghosts also exist (like Spectra!!), so their structure is a little different!!! Their structure can vary more wildly than an ambientâs can, but the more common structural resemblance is to the bacteria Actinomycetota, which can have a kind of symbiotic relationship with their surroundings.Â
I think itâd be good to have an example for this, so Spectraâs ability is probably an easier way to look at it!!! Some kinds of Actinomycetota help out in ecosystems by converting nitrogen in the air into ammonia for plants, and in âreturnâ gain access to some of those plantsâ saccharides. Spectraâs ability works in a similar way, even though the symbiotic nature isnât mutually beneficial. She induces mood alteration (of the negative kind), and uses that to kind of âgain accessâ to a targetâs energy!!!! But not all active ghosts function this way- some can be beneficial like the kind of Actinomycetota mentioned before, and some are less symbiotic and just stay in the zone to âfeedâ off its natural supply!!!!
Okay Iâm gonna be honest my eyes are blurring looking at all this stuff about prokaryoticism so weâre gonna move on to a new section now for the sake of my brain staying not-melted!!!!!
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Section 2: Anaerobic Classifications
Just to make sure Iâve got a definition down before we get into it, aerobic and anaerobic respiration basically refers to whether or not an organism respires with oxygen/uses oxygen for growth or not- aerobic is when it uses oxygen, anaerobic is when it doesnât!!!
Ghosts are anaerobic!!!! The GZ doesnât naturally contain breathable/sufficient levels of oxygen (although it can be found in higher contents in areas with a higher population of post-eukaryotic ghosts and portals!!), so it makes sense that they donât actually have a need for it, however!! There are actually different classifications of anaerobe, and a ghost can fall into almost any one of those categories!!!! There is a little bit of debate about the accuracy of these categories as classifications, but rn weâre just going to ignore that because they work well enough for ghosts!!!Â
Anyway- there are three categories of anaerobes!!! Theyâre pretty easy to understand, so Iâm just gonna put down what the Wikipedia page says!!! :
Obligate anaerobes, which are harmed by the presence of oxygen. Two examples of obligate anaerobes are Clostridium botulinum and the bacteria which live near hydrothermal vents on the deep-sea ocean floor.
Aerotolerant organisms, which cannot use oxygen for growth, but tolerate its presence.
Facultative anaerobes, which can grow without oxygen but use oxygen if it is present.
So, which ghosts fit what definition?? Well, no ghosts are actually facultative except halfas in their human form!!! Or, well, on the whole theyâre kind of a weird mix of a microaerophile (which is fully aerobic but higher concentrations of oxygen are poisonous) but also maybe slightly facultative, which I know sounds weird but halfas are just super weird either way [and weâll get into some of that weirdness more in the fourth section lmao]!! Mediums are full microaerophiles but I havenât talked about them properly yet so weâll leave them for another day!!!!
Moving on, the majority of natural ghosts are actually fully obligate with a couple of noteworthy exceptions like Clockwork, Undergrowth, Nocturn, and some others!!!! I know you might be thinking if you read the taxonomy post- âwhy is this not a section in the taxonomic classification system??â And my answer to this is!!! Because if a ghost isnât fully obligate, it can get pretty complicated. I say fully obligate because, in reality, all ghosts are obligate in a weird way, but some- namely, post-eukaryotic ghosts- have adaptations to help with this!!!!
Iâm going to say the adaptation is kind of like. A protective layer of sorts??? They have a kind of âoutermost layerâ of aerotolerant ectoplasm to protect everything underneath from coming into contact with oxygen, and it also works as a filter system for ambient ghosts so that the ectoplasm absorbed from the atmosphere is pure and any oxygen it might have reacted with is separated and left behind!!! Itâs pretty quick to cover over again when a ghost is hit unless the damage is serious- I guess you could compare it to potassium metal!!! If youâve ever seen a video of someone messing around with potassium metal, itâs got this kind of dirty-looking layer over it, and if you cut it the insideâll go bright at first but it tarnishes super quickly, and itâll soon look the same as the other uncut parts of the outer layer!!!Â
Speaking of which, this is a pretty good way to bring in how ecto-weapons work and why they hurt ghosts beyond just the force of the shot!!! Like I mentioned before (and Might get into more sometime in another post), atmospheric ectoplasm will react with oxygen!!!! This is important because thatâs the stuff that ecto-weapons use; itâs not pure ectoplasm because you canât find that naturally outside the GZ!!!
So, if the stuff is shot at a ghost through something like an ecto-gun, because itâs obviously forceful and makes contact at a high-speed, it can damage and even break through that aerotolerant layer and get oxygen into their system, which really isnât good!!!! If the damage is just surface-layer/superficial, it can be recovered from pretty quickly (thinking back to the potassium analogy!!), but if the damage is more serious and that oxygen- even reacted with ectoplasm- manages to really get into a ghostâs anatomy, preventative measures need to be taken in order to ensure that it doesnât reach the ghostâs core/the rest of their body, and this is where the next section comes into play!!!!
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(TW: There's some pretty bad injury/medical talk in these next sections (Section 4 especially), so please be mindful!!!!)
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Section 3: Programmed Cell Death
Okay when I said I was done talking about prokaryoticism I actually meant I was done talking about cyanobacteria and actinomycetota similarities. Prokaryotic organisms like bacteria donât really have âimmune systemsâ in the same way most eukaryotic organisms do, so they sometimes canât fight off things like infection if the infection isnât manageable from the get-go. Instead, they initiate a form of âprogrammed cell deathâ in order to prevent the pathogen from reproducing!!! And now hereâs how thatâs relevant to ghost injury!!!!
So!!! Long story short, if a ghost gets oxygen into their âinner systemâ thanks to something like an ecto-gun, the area the injury originates at literally just dies off, and separates from the body before it can spread to other parts. For example, if a ghost was hit in the arm badly, that arm can literally just fall off and grow back like a lizard tail!!! This can be done with pretty much any part of a ghostâs body- the only aspect of a ghost thatâs actually genuinely problematic to injure is the core, because most ghosts- provided theyâre not already low-energy- can just regrow everything else, though they may need to head back to the GZ for the higher ectoplasm quantity if the loss is severe enough!!!!
Really short section, I know, however!!! There is a complication to this stuff, and this is where we get into the difficult bit!!!!
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Section 4: Halfas
The problem with halfas is that theyâre not totally ghosts or totally humans no matter which form theyâre in, and this can cause a lot of complications when it comes to stuff like injuries- but first, weâre going to go into integration.Â
Ghosts are prokaryotic. Humans are eukaryotic. Halfas areâŚ???????? Kind of both kind of neither????? Thereâs this one thing called a Parakaryon that we canât classify as either eukaryotic or prokaryotic because itâs so weird, and itâs kind of like that, in that their cells have aspects unique to both types. This is probably a result of all their ghost stuff and all their human stuff trying to combine/integrate into one thing, and ending up as something almost entirely different in the process. This also means that their structures in both ghost and human form are weird, because halfas at least somewhat need organs, which ghosts donât (other than a core if you count that as an organ), and they also need ectoplasm, which humans donât.Â
Because of all this weirdness, there can be a lot of potential issues with a halfa getting injured, because humans canât and donât defend against harm in the same way ghosts do, and vice versa. While ghosts can just get rid of something and grow it back, thatâs not a natural option at all for humans, and while humans can fight against infection in an injury thanks to their white blood cells, ghosts donât have that in the same way. So what does that mean for a halfa?????
What Iâm thinking is that, for most non-lethal but slightly beyond superficial injuries (slashes, broken bones, burns, etc.), theyâre able to defend against them in a human way, since they still have a human-immune system. So, for injuries like that, especially if itâs caused by an ecto-weapon, itâs weirdly enough best to deal with those in human form, since they can be pretty easily recovered from and itâd really suck for your finger to just. Fall off because you hurt it pretty bad and stayed in ghost-form for too long so your ghost-recovery-system kicked in before your human one did. Iâm almost completely sure itâd grow back, but thatâd still cause a lot of problems, since you wouldnât have a finger.Â
However, major injuries are a bit more⌠difficult. Because at this point your ghost-recovery-system would be kicking in regardless of what form youâre in. Itâd want to activate programmed cell death and separate from the body, but human bodies just donât do it the way ghosts do, and itâd be fighting to keep all your everything attached because separating could make it a lot worse. So major injuries arenât just problematic because theyâre major, but also because they present a whole new issue: necrosis.Â
Basically, the ghost stuff wants the whole injured section totally separate from the body, so when the human stuff doesnât let that happen, it does what it thinks the next best thing is: having the cells sort of âspew their gutsâ as like, a really weird and warped form of âseparationâ. The cell membrane ruptures and releases the contents of the cell, but because itâs such an uncontrolled release into a space outside the cells, it causes an inflammatory response in the surrounding tissue. This then gets the attention of the human white blood cells to get rid of the dead cells, which is all well and good, except that some kinds of white blood cells (leukocytes) release a microbial-damaging substance that ends up causing more damage in that inflamed surrounding tissue. That all ends up inhibiting the healing process, so the decomposing surrounding tissue and the dead cells can just build up around and cause even more issues (Like, gangrene in particularly nasty cases, which. Ah. Eugh.).Â
If it doesnât heal on its own and does just build up, the only real way of getting anything better is to surgically remove the necrotic tissue. Thankfully, despite all the horrific stuff Iâve just said about halfasâ injury-response systems, they do actually have an accelerated healing factor thanks to the extra energy source (ectoplasm), so it doesnât tend to get to this point in the first place. This is just what happens if that rapid-response system decides that the only way to solve the problem is to try and totally get rid of the problem, which I guess is just one of the downfalls of being someone made up of a combination of things that shouldnât really exist together. A double-edged sword of sorts!!!
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Maybe not the lightest note to end on, but either way, thatâs all Iâve really got the energy to give you right now!!! This ended up even longer than my taxonomy post, but if you have any questions, feel free to ask because I love talking to people!!! I might add onto this at some point with another post- mainly because thereâs some very brief stuff about atmospheric/ambient ectoplasm that I kind of want to cover (which, like I said at the beginning is more ectochemistry anyway, and I might do a separate post for that too)- but for now, thatâs it!!!!! Hope youâre all having a good day!!! :D
Saw a short fic on here someday about paranormal stuff and in there was the rule that ghosts/echos/I dont remember exactly only last some 24h
and it got me thinking
if ghosts/spektral images of a dead person dissolve after a certain amount of time, why? are there like fog that gets swept up by the wind? or is there a process at work similar to the decay of a physical body?
and my brain snapped that idea and ran with it so far away I almost couldnt catch it
in short: ghost bugs.
in a little bit longer: ghost carcass bugs breaking down the spektral "corpse"
then I made the realization this could mean theres a whole ghost ecosystem but while trying to grapple with that I remembered bacteria and with the millions of variants there's a good chance there's a branch of bacteria munching what the ghost bugs leave behind and bring the energy it contains back into the physical world
Okay, Iâm on a roll with ghost science and these theories, so hereâs more:
So, the main issue with the Ghost Zone is entropy.
Entropy is basically how random or disorganized something is, and the universe always wants to increase entropy. When you increase entropy, or randomness, you decrease somethingâs ability to do work. Think of it like this: if I have a ball at the top of a hill, it has the potential to roll down the hill, with that, I could power something. When itâs at the bottom of the hill, the ball canât do anything. The energy at the top and bottom is the same, but at the top, itâs âstoredâ in the ballâs height, in itâs potential to drop. At the bottom of the hill, all that energy has been released, and now it canât be used. Thatâs an increase in entropy, that âfree energyâ that now canât be used.
The thing about the Ghost Zone is that is doesnât really have entropy. Energy is just always there. Itâs basically a dimension made of energy. So where does that energy come from? How does it not run out?
Well, if everything in the universe increases entropy, and the Zone is a well of âconstant energyâ, what if the Zone was a sort of energy net? When energy loses some of itâs ability to do work, becomes more random, that randomness feeds the Zone. The Zone is infinite, expands across all universes, and in a sense, itâs everywhere entropy is.
The Ghost Zone is, quite literally, the ghost of energy. It is the ghost of energyâs potential. The Zone is always there, because it exists in the spaces between, the spaces where energyâs potential has been lost. The Zone stores the randomness of the universe(s). The energy of the universe is constant, but the potential of energy, itâs randomness is reborn in the Ghost Zone. The Zone is always gaining energy because entropy is always increasing, but it cycles this energy with the creation of ghosts. The Ghost Zone does a reverse entropy with the creation of ghosts: structured containers of energy, built out of the random energy of the Zone.
Ghosts are little chaotic bastards, because in a sense, they represent chaos. They represent randomness and disorder, they are built out of randomness, but at the same time, they are structure in a world literally formed from chaos.