Quick question. What time should I watch Interview With The Vampire to have Lestat say âNow Look with your vampire eyes.â?
(Got both your asks, Anon, just answering once)Â
In movie!Interview With Vampire, Lestat says that line at 14 min, 22 seconds into the movie, on the NTSC (US) version. I donât know when that would be for PAL. Anyone out there with a PAL copy can reblog/comment what it would be for that version.
So basically, start the movie at 11:45 pm New Yearâs Eve your time, to begin 2018 w/ Louisâ freshly minted vampire eyes *u*
^Louis is, in fact, capable of smiling, hereâs a rare sliver of a smile <3
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Can we talk about how almost everyone's hair in VC is curly? Practically every one has "curls", I just find it funny.
Donât you know tho? The Dark Gift comes with a free permâŠ.
⊠thereâs also the humidity to consider, NOLA is a pretty humid place, other VC locations might also be humid.Â
I just skimmed TVL, and yes, it looks like thereâs a lot of curly-hair references, but having read the entire series, what sticks out more for me are the âround little armsâ on the women and children, like, WHAT OTHER SHAPE would they be? âsquare little armsâ âtrapezoid little armsââŠ?
So I'm confused, was Louis weak because Lestat made him that way on purpose? Or was he weak because he was Lestat's third fledgling in a decade? Wouldn't he be stronger because Lestat had Akasha's blood in him? I know Louis refused to drink from Lestat, was he ultimately weak because he chose to be?
As always, #Your Headcanon May Vary, these are just my own opinions, and I am SURE other ppl have other excellent answers for this.Â
Iâm focusing on Louisâs strength at turning and the first few years after, since he does grow more powerful over time on his own (and he also gets *~upgraded~* later in canon, idk whether you accept later canon but it happens!).
TL;DR: I donât think Lestat purposely made Louis weak, it was a combination of factors, but mostly that the procedure isnât an exact science*, Lestat was a young maker and turned Louis too soon after making two fledglings before, and the fact that Louis was malnourished** (refusal to kill ppl) for those first few years might have been a contributing factor.
**So Lestat does talk about Louis being weak in IWTV, but not that he purposely made him that way, just that he allowed it to go uncorrected; he didnât force Louis to kill ppl, or force Louis to embrace his vampiric gifts and learn how to use them:
âLestat looked at me. âI expected you to feel these thingsinstinctually, as I did,â he said. When I gave you that first kill, Ithought you would hunger for the next and the next, that you wouldgo to each human life as if to a full cup, the way I had. But you didnât.And all this time I suppose I kept from straightening you out becauseyou were best weaker. Iâd watch you playing shadow in the night,staring at the falling rain, and Iâd think, Heâs easy to manage, heâssimple. But youâre weak, Louis. Youâre a mark. For vampires andnow for humans alike. This thing with Babette has exposed us both.Itâs as if you want us both to be destroyed.ââ
^Lestat is saying Louis is weak by choice, and heâs describing weakness of character more than physical strength, so I believe he was physically weak bc of the Dark Gift. The Dark Gift is not an exact science*, despite all good/bad intentions, itâs the vampiric form of pregnancy. But there are things about the procedure that can affect the strength of the fledgling:Â
Whether the blood is transferred once (for Louis) or multiple times (for Marius) between maker and fledgling - Multiple times seems to make a stronger fledgling. Why didnât Lestat do it multiple times for Louis? I think Louis was already in such bad physical shape that Lestat didnât want to risk it. Plus, he had already turned 2 fledglings using the single transfer procedure, he probably felt like that was good enough.
Age, power, and timing of making previous fledglings of the maker - Â it seems like power is outweighed by the other two factors.
The fledglingâs diet after turning -Â Louis was feeding on animals for the first 4-ish years of vampiring, which is like bad junk food, and probably not drinking the volume of blood he needed, either.Â
Yes, post-QOTD (and pre-Merrick), Louis refused to drink Lestatâs blood. I headcanon that that felt like a rejection of Lestat bc blood-sharing is a major expression of intimacy for vampires. He might have refused it bc he saw how it had changed Lestat and he didnât want that to happen to himself, but I think he also wanted to preserve his own vulnerability, in case he wanted to suicide ;A;Â
Hit the jump for more, cut for length.
âSo Iâm confused, was Louis weak because Lestat made him that way on purpose?âÂ
I donât think it was on purpose. Itâs not an exact science* and Lestat had only done it 2x, had only heard about the procedure from Armand and Marius. There is some speculation that the blood transfer needs to be exchanged more than once to ensure a stronger fledgling. Marius, for example, exchanged blood with his maker multiple times when he was turned, but with Louis, Lestat only did it once. I think thatâs because Louis was so weakened by the bloodletting heâd been forced to undergo (âWhenI was subdued finally, and exhausted then almost to the point of death,they bled me. The fools.â) that Lestat didnât want to risk exchanging more than once? Idk.
Also, Louis was feeding on animals for the first 4-ish years of vampiring, and thatâs like bad junk food. He was probably not even drinking the volume of blood he needed, either. That might have had an impact on his strength. It probably contributed to his attitude at the time, being underfed and undernourished for so long ;A;
âOr was he weak because he was Lestatâs third fledgling in a decade?âÂ
This is probably more of the reason. As Marius tells Lestat in TVL:
âWell, for one thing, â he said, âyour powers are extraordinary, butyou canât expect those you make in the next fifty years to equal you orGabrielle. Your second child didnât have half Gabrielleâs strength andlater children will have even less. The blood I gave you will make some difference. If you drink⊠if you drink from Akasha and Enkil,which you may choose not to do⊠that will make some differencetoo. But no matter, only so many children can be made by one in acentury. And new offspring will be weak. However, this is notnecessarily a bad thing. The rule of the old covens had wisdom in itthat strength should come with time. And then again, there is the oldtruth: you might make titans or imbeciles, no one knows why or how.
In Ricean vampire physiology, a maker needs to wait a good long while between making fledglings; too much frequency will make subsequent fledglings weaker than they could have been. Plus, even though Lestat had the blood of a much older and stronger vampire when he was turned (Magnus), Lestat himself was only a decade into vampiring himself. It seems the vampiric spirit discourages the transfer of powers from young vampires to their fledglings. If anyone got the bulk of that power, it was Gabrielle, Lestatâs first.
âWouldnât he be stronger because Lestat had Akashaâs blood in him?â
Marius said that that would make âsome differenceâ but I think the fact that Lestat had already turned 2 vampires, and was young still himself, prevented that power from being transferred.
âI know Louis refused to drink from Lestat, was he ultimately weak because he chose to be?âÂ
He was weak by vampire standards at first, and yes, I think he chose to remain that way. But heâs still stronger and faster than a mortal. Heâs also able to defend himself and kick a lot of ass. What he lacks physically he makes up for mentally, heâs strategic in the way he attacks when he does attack, and he can hold his own against much stronger and older vampires (he took out most of the Theatre des Vampires on his own in IWTV!).
*Re: the Dark Trick is not an exact science:Â
Armand mentions in TVL:
But let Armand understand here also that the effect of the Dark Trick is unpredictable, even when passed on by the very young vampire and with all due care. For reasons no one knows, some mortals when Born to Darkness become as powerful as Titans, others may be no more than corpses that move. That is why mortals must be chosen with skill. Those with great passion and indomitable will should be avoided as well as those who have none.
Hello there! I am fresh blood in this fandom , having only just picked up the books after remembering how much I liked the IWTV movie in highschool. I am currently on the second book and while I am pretty sure I will probably get my answer soon by just reading, I am also impatient (and afraid of missing smth). My question to you: Why couldn't Claudia access the full extent of her vampire powers? Are they really that biologically discriminate?
Yum, we can always use fresh blood! >;}
Why couldnât Claudia access the full extent of her vampire powers? Are they really that biologically discriminate?Â
^They donât all automatically get all the vampiric powers, and some powers are only âearnedâ over time (like the cloud gift, which is flight). Some vampires automatically do get certain gifts upon being turned, like Lestat and the mind gift, but Louis didnât get that one (debatable somewhat, as Armand notes in TVA that Louis can spellbind others inadvertently but that might also be bc Louis is just too adorable and dreamy for anyone to handle).Â
We donât know just how strong/gifted Claudia was, I donât think there are any scenes that explicitly talk about her abilities. She was most likely stronger than her mortal self, even if she was weak compared to other vampires. Even if she had the mind gift, she would not have been able to read Lestatâs mind, and he wouldnât be able to read hers, due to the barrier between fledglings and makers. But she might have been able to read Louisâ mind, since sheâs his sibling. We donât know.
Not sure where youâre at now, but in TVL thereâs some discussion about fledglings and strength when Armand tells Lestat what he knows about the Dark Trick, and later, Marius that tells Lestat what he knows about it. Claudia is not specifically mentioned at the time, bc she doesnât exist yet in the story.
The Dark Gift is not an exact science, and even makers with gifts cannot purposely give/withhold them to/from their fledglings :-\Â Armand mentions in TVL:Â
But let Armand understand here also that the effect of the Dark Trick is unpredictable, even when passed on by the very young vampire and with all due care. For reasons no one knows, some mortals when Born to Darkness become as powerful as Titans, others may be no more than corpses that move. That is why mortals must be chosen with skill. Those with great passion and indomitable will should be avoided as well as those who have none.
The Dark Gift in unpredictable, despite all good/bad intentions; itâs the vampiric form of pregnancy. But there are things about the procedure that can affect the strength of the fledgling:
Whether the blood is transferred between maker and fledglingonce (for Louis and Claudia) or multiple times (for Marius) - IIRC, Marius doesnât tell Lestat this in TVL, but multiple times seems to make for a stronger fledgling. Why didnât Lestat do it multiple times for Claudia? I think Claudia was already in such bad physical shape that Lestat didnât want to risk it. Plus, he had already turned 3 fledglings using the single transfer procedure, he probably felt like that was good enough.
Age and/or power of the maker - Lestat was only ~15 yo vampire himself when he turns Claudia. Thatâs still almost a fledgling himself, even tho he had been turned with powerful blood from a 300+ yo vampire.
Timing of making previous fledglings of the maker - Marius tells Lestat that the gift is weaker from the Maker to fledglings if given close in time period. Lestat had already made 3 vampires in his 15 year time, each one was weaker in strength than the last. It seems like whatever the Makerâs power, itâs outweighed by this timing issue.
The fledglingâs diet after turning - Louis was feeding on animals for the first 4-ish years of vampiring, which is like bad junk food, and probably not drinking the volume of blood he needed, either. Claudia seemed to have a voracious appetite, but she did have the body of a child, so itâs possible that she was physically unable to consume the amount of blood needed for the vampiric parasite to really transform her body properly. Possibly another reason why vampires generally donât approve of turning children.
@vinceaddams replied to your photo âFound this on pinterest (actual source is Bloody Vampire Fangs...â
It always annoys me when I see fang marks placed like that instead of vertically. Just picture how awkward the position of vampire's head would be!
S A M E.
In the movie when fledgling!Louis is really trying to vampire properly and heâs looking for a good spot to bite, you can almost seem him go, âYeah no, this angle? Bad spot, no, um maybe this angle? Nope...â Itâs like someone learning how to kiss, poor Louis ;A; and itâs even funnier bc itâs Brad frickinâ Pitt who you would assume would be a professional at Making Out and hickey delivery, but the character is hella uncomfortable having to do this at all so none of that applies!
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