I haven't got any kin memories of them but they just give off Kin Vibes(tm), ya know what I mean? I have other kintypes that were way easier to kinfirm. But with these ones I can't get a clear answer. I can't shake the feeling I may kin them but idk. Using a pendelum and tarot like I do with most of my kintypes always gives me a hazy answer. (Like for example I ask my pendelum if I kin x and it keeps giving me a maybe.) It's frustrating.