#dynamics asks

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ITS BAD. they think they are 1. a burden, 2. a waste of space, 3. thoroughly disliked and it kills them because they LIKE elene :(

"im sorry u had to waste so much time and energy getting to me :( it's my fault and it's ok if u hate me ....,,," <- they're insane. and it's like. This but also they're still trying to put themselves in front of k to keep everyone safe. like its just become something that they have to do now. they know they aren't doing it well but it would still ruin them if k ended up hurting any of the others. bc that is their fault then. for not being good or strong enough (i am taking so much psychic damage rn)

For. Amy and Clem?

joke answer: they're insane forever sami i don't know what else to tell u

serious answer: i think clem does care for amy and i think if they knew her in her low point they would be very ,, concerned. they would want to help. but it helps by throwing itself in front of the problem so when amy is being self destructive that's sort of impossible? she sort of. frustrates them? in a way? like they just can't rly understand her.

so while i Have seen some stuff from s4 i havent seen all of it yet so i dont have the complete picture of how their relationship was but i do know enough to know that they did (and still do tbh) care for each other and tried their hardest to make compromises before The Great DivorceTM but well. we saw how it turned out. in another life they def couldve worked out but as you yourself said that would require them to be different ppl with different goals, mindsets, experiences, and circumstances so in the end it doesnt really matter anyway, whats done is done and all they can do is to try to reconcile and move past it -- and try to reconcile and move past it they did! with... variable results.

despite zams resilience when it comes to external troubles its rather typical of him to succumb to his internal ones which generally leads to one or both results: repression/avoidance or a desire for action to an unhealthy degree and in s5 he managed to do both! hey girl why are you vehemently trying to repress your past while relentlessly tormenting your ex under the guise of "cause you felt like it" which gets worse the more he tries to bring up your past together with you only to finally let it all go when he gives you a book addressed to your real life self?? gay as fuck if you ask me

when it comes to zam it really feels like vi is endlessly trying to reach towards someone who burns at even his slightest of touches and reacts accordingly. while most probably give up especially with how frustrated and agrieved he is he cant help but keep trying to reach out anyway cause despite everything he doesnt wanna cut off that connection. what really gets me tho is the fact that he entrusted jumper to abyss despite the fact that their relationship has been nothing but antagonistic til that point like girl why did you think that a team made up of some of the main proponents of your suffering both that season and the season before that which btw includes your ex who was the main source of said suffering both times who keeps trying to deny what you had and either avoids you or tries to kill you, were the most fitting and reliable candidates to be with your best friend and neglected teammate?? gay as fuck if you ask me

idk vitalazam is just one missed opportunities after another i think, always so close but never enough, always something to regret, always something to grieve and this season was no exception. icb vi logged on for a whole 24 hours unsure when he can log back on again and zam decided to prioritize building the mapicc castle instead of spend as much time as possible with him 😭 and now zams living in vis basement and keeps ruminating over the past and what vis been through and wants to revive him even if he never logs back on again like. bro.

youre boring, pick something specific or die like a coward

i perceive them as platonic :3

hater who loves vs lover who hates who wins. i think the way they care for each other a lot is really cute, i suppose thats just the natural consequence of being two of the three ppl who became teamed on the basis of being on 3 hearts as much as possible and essentially becoming the servers hunting trophies at some point lol

i think a funny thing ive seen from the fandom is that some ppl seem to think planet is nothing but a sweetie lmao?? which is just. not the case. like guys planet was the one who went on a killing spree and suggested hardcore for a reason, he wants drama he wants conflict he wants ppl to fight and he can be manipulative if he wants to be like this man is nawt innocent

secret third thing devotions is how i see them <333

its pretty obvious by now that theyve got a pretty special bond going on thanks to the fact that theyve gone through basically every season together since s2. theyve teamed, theyve allied, theyve become enemies, theyve become not-teammates, theyve betrayed each other, theyve betrayed For each other, theyve done everything except stop giving a shit about each other

they understand each other very well and are very good at not only navigating situations while keeping the other in mind but also at helping reel the other back from giving into their urges (mapicc from a spiraling zam and zam from a homicidal mapicc)

theres an implicit trust in how they treat each other nowadays, not in the traditional sense where theyd never go against each other but in the sense that theyd always know where the others mental is at. that being said they still kinda need to work on their communication skills lol esp on zams end but hey theyre working on it

theyre always working on something in their relationship and i think thats what intrigues me the most about them, despite how well they understand each other already theyre always intentionally bettering that understanding every season and this seasons no exception, they talk and talk and talk about where their heads at, what they can do to accomodate each other, what they can do to keep the other around even if theyre not teamed, etc and theres a lot of respect there the whole time regarding their different wants, needs, and mentalities which i think is very cool