Do you have any idea what kibbe type Yura Borisov is?
hint/typing teaser: if an actor or actress looks better when bald? they have sharp yang, i.e. they are dramatic/gamine or have a yang subtype... đ because:
bald = plain bone structure.
it elongates the vertical of the face by exposing more skin.
the outline is sleek. by contrast, natural & romantic (soft yang, soft yin) have plush, fuzzy outlines, not flat ones.
it's an all or nothing style. D is on the extreme end of kibbe's scale. no half-assing things possible there.
just like nicholas hoult committing to the bit and succeeding.
and yep, i've typed yura alongside some other anora cast members here. i haven't seen it but from pics i believe the movie dresses him as a natural - yet the red carpet says he's a dramatic classic:
common trope, yin subtype actress, yang subtype actor: mikey is a soft classic. see how they are both medium height and yura does not have extreme shoulder width compared to the other men? hack: if you want to spot the classics, put them next to naturals.
tbh knowing the film markets him as SN, yura is one of the many actors who fell victim to the usual hollywood motto that i talked about in my david corenswet typing, which goes:
"so, all men should be naturals, because only that is masculine! but the natural men should actually be... classics! makes sense! oops, why are the broad guys so squeezed into their narrow classic suits and why do the narrow guys drown in those wide natural clothes? and it's unflattering? and why does everyone hate their body and want to be someone else? guess we'll never know!"
just like the huge and bulky superman FN archetype always squeezes into a pure C outfit to be clarkishly unrecognizable! đ
the sharp outlines hide his natural bone structure. it looks nerdily ill-matched because of it. (a C type dressed as N can also camouflage themselves that way - knowing kibbe and explaining acting transformations is great fun đ)
even in the comic the sleeves are visibly scrunched lmao!^
so, my theory is that once an actor does embody the beauty standard, stylists try to "tame" them with C menswear. or think classic is the only thing that still fits buff N men. and vice versa for DC types like yura. angular classic men are puffed and buffed up to match the FN body standard. neither works.
natural fabrics, thick and sturdy, beards, fuzzy hair, all are heavy on the face and not flattering or recognizable at all for a DC:
clean, elegant lines, buzzing off the fluff, symmetry, complete minimalism, hard-edged lines, stronger contrast: much better.
yura's physicality is pretty easy to type. symmetrical, balanced but chiseled, medium to tall height (5'10), with sharpness, defined angular facial bones. which are in harmony with the shaved head, whereas baldness on more yin types is trickier to pull off.
bonus: unlike nicholas hoult actually, he is more on the dramatic end like bill skarsgard (they are both above 6'2, that says it all - no classics are found above 6'0). very strong on the vertical.
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We know that the modelling industry is dominated by FNs/Flamboyant Naturals since clothes are made for a rectangular frame and not customized to the curves and contours of a specific body. Models who are frame dominant are preferred because they can advertise the clothes as they are instead of having it tailored to fit them.But all of that aside, I thought it'll be interesting to find models who do not have a typical FN build.
Keep in mind that almost all the women mentioned below are over 5'7 and with Kibbe's height restrictions in mind, at that height, only a few IDs are possible (SD, D, FN). Since this is a post about models who aren't FN, this list will largely feature Ds & SDs.
For context, this is a typical FN build. Cindy Crawford is a verified FN. She has broad shoulders, a square torso and an overall athletic build. FNs are likely to have an inverted triangle like frame.
Adriana Lima, Dramatic
She's 178cm and thus has automatic vertical. Her overall body is very sharp and angular, she does not have an athletic build or physique. She's just long and sharp?? if that makes sense
2. Stephanie Seymour, SD
90s Victoria Secret models were often SDs, voluptuous and curvy and Stephanie is a great example of it. Its only in the 2000s & since that FNs began to dominate the modelling industry.
She has double curve and has a fleshy, curvy physique.
3. Miranda Kerr, Dramatic
Her physique is so similar to Adriana's. Very long torso's, sharp limbs and angular
4. Laetitia Casta- SD
Her bustline and hips are curved which is what is meant by double curve. So she looks softer and rounder. Her yang comes from her height
5. Tyra Banks- SD
6. Karen Mulder- D
Longer torso, longer overall body, very sharp and angular looking
7. Heidi Klum- Dramatic
8. Helena Christensen- SD
9. Ming Xi, D
10. Chanel Iman is a FN but I'm including her anyway because she can easily be mistyped as an SD or something
11. Irina Shayk, Dramatic
12. Eva Herzigova, SD
13. Rania Benchegra, SD
14. Kaia Gerber, FN (i know she seems like a Dramatic but she's a Natural all thru)
15. Kate Moss, Flamboyant Gamine
16. Devon Aoki, Flamboyant Gamine
17. Chloe Sevigny, Flamboyant Gamine
18. Anok Yai, Pure Dramatic
19. Adut Akech, underweight SD
20. Emily Ratajkowski, Flamboyant Gamine
21. Chrissy Teigen, SD
22. Camille Rowe, Soft Gamine
23. Adwoa Aboah, Flamboyant Gamine
24. Agyness Deyn, Dramatic Classic
25. Joan Smalls, Dramatic
26. Milla Jovovich, DC
27. Sasha Pivovarova, Dramatic Classic
28. Amber Valletta, Dramatic Classic
29. Candice Swanepoel, underweight SD
ive reached the image limit ,, ill make a part 2 in the future<33
hello ! i really wanna know seunghan's kibbe body type. hes a former riize member and now a soloist ! i hope you can do an analysis about him. he has really angular and sharp features and typically look taller. he is 179 - 180 cm. i was about to ask this on reddit but the kpop kibbe server was banned :< thankfully your blog exists so i hope you can help me out !! thank you so much <33
Hello! One thing I notice about Seunghan is that he reminds me a bit of Jaemin and Doyoung from NCT. I like him best in simple clothes that accentuate his natural beauty. No surprise then that I think he's in the classic family. And I would say DC because he tends to look sharp in the face (especially eyes/cheekbone area), but he's close to pure C so I wouldn't rule out SC either.
His candid photos show how classic he looks, anything too extreme disrupts his look, and moderation is better. Even the detailing/collar shirt in the top right photo clashes with his essence a lot imo.
Balanced with a slight Yang undercurrent. The Dramatic Classic combines the symmetry and moderation of the Classic base with the sharpness and elongation of subtle Dramatic influence.
Body Type: Balanced proportions with slight angularity or length. The figure is trim and has moderate curves but leans toward sleekness and sharp edges.
Bone Structure: Symmetrical with some sharpnessâslightly narrow shoulders, defined jawline, and straight limbs.
Will Not Have: Extreme softness, roundness, wide bones, or overt angularity. No extremely sharp vertical line or heavily compact features.
Physical Traits
Height: Moderate, often 5'4"â5'7", but can appear taller due to sleekness.
Body Type: Proportional figure with a tendency toward a streamlined silhouette. May have moderate curves but not prominently.
Bone Structure: Slightly sharp, narrow, and refined. Hands and feet may appear long and slim but not large.
Will Not Have: A stocky frame, wide bones, compact limbs, or a soft, fleshy silhouette.
Style Recommendations
Shape
Smooth, tailored shapes that follow the body's natural lines. Slight waist emphasis is best, but never too tight or exaggerated.
Avoid: Boxy or shapeless silhouettes, as well as overly curvy or dramatic outlines.
Line and Silhouette
Sculpted, symmetrical, and semi-fitted lines. Clean tailoring that shows the form subtly. Garments should skim the body with slight structure.
Avoid: Extreme width, excessive draping, clingy fits, or asymmetry that distorts balance.
Fabric
Medium-weight fabrics with a slight crispness or softness. Fine wool, silk blends, gabardine, crepe, or matte jersey are ideal. They should maintain shape without being stiff.
Avoid: Bulky, heavy fabrics or those that cling too much. No overly textured or super soft materials like mohair or angora.
Detail
Ideal: Subtle and symmetrical detailâdarts, pleats, tucks, or decorative seams that follow clean lines. Small shoulder pads, angular necklines, or classic collars work well.
Avoid: Excessive embellishment, ruffles, frills, ornate details, or anything off-center or oversized.
Separates
Jackets:
Tailored blazers, clean-lined jackets with slight waist shaping and crisp edges. Hem should end near the hipbone.
Avoid: Long or oversized jackets, peplums, or anything with exaggerated structure or softness.
Skirts:
Straight, pencil, or A-line skirts that fall at the knee. Gentle shaping is flattering but must stay structured.
Avoid: Mini skirts, gathered waists, or overly flared skirts that break the clean line.
Pants:
Tailored, straight-leg trousers. High or natural waist is preferred. Slight taper or crease down the front enhances verticality.
Avoid: Baggy, slouchy, or ultra-skinny styles. Avoid capris, cargo, or wide-leg pants.
Blouses:
Ideal: Streamlined blouses with classic collars or subtle detail. Smooth fabrics that lay cleanly against the body.
Avoid: Ruffles, puff sleeves, peasant styles, or oversized blouses.
Sweaters:
Fine-gauge knits that follow the bodyâs shape. Classic crewnecks or V-necks with clean finishes.
Avoid: Chunky knits, dropped shoulders, or oversized, cozy styles.
Dresses
Streamlined, semi-fitted dresses that emphasize clean, balanced lines. Sheaths, soft tailored fits, wrap dresses (without excess drape), and sleek shirt dresses are great.
Avoid: Flowy, frilly, or asymmetrical dresses. Anything that lacks structure, distorts balance, or adds bulk.
Thoughts on TXTâs Paris Fashion Week Debut (Dior Men FW2024)
TXT made their Paris Fashion Week debut at the Dior Men FW2024 show!
Taehyun mentioned in their livestream that they were wearing custom outfits for the show and I say thatâs how you should treat your brand ambassadors!!
Wearing house-sponsored outfits to fashion week is a fairly common practice but itâs nice to know that Dior Men went and had custom outfits made for them instead of just loaning them outfits straight from the collections.
Before I dive into each of their outfits, I wanted to touch briefly on the Dior Men FW2024 collection for some context.Â
According to the Vogue writeup, Dior Menâs artistic director, Kim Jones, drew inspiration from both the onstage and offstage life of Rudolf Nureyev, a celebrated male ballet dancer. The collection begins with more casual outfits with their shorts and ballet-inspired shoes, then we make our way to their more business-appropriate suits, and Dior Menâs first(?) ever attempt at couture.
I must say that the more dramatic looks from their FW2024 collection were such a sight to behold, with all the drapery, cutouts, and embellishments. There were a few pieces that I think would work quite well for TXT but Iâll save that discussion for another time. For now, letâs talk about their PFW looks!
While I really appreciate how their outfits are all custom, I do still think that TXTâs branding and that of Dior Men isnât exactly the best. Having TXT make their PFW debut during a time where Dior Men is injecting a little more youthful elements into their work is welcome but overall, the partnership just seems like a mismatch (especially when they wear full outfits), IMO.
It feels like a bit of a letdown to see how bulky-looking and swallowed up by fabric most of the members seem to be. Hueningkai, Yeonjun, and Beomgyu in particular look so overwhelmed by their outfits in their photos. In motion/videos however, their outfits do look a little better. The boys mentioned that their outfits were very comfortable. I think that is more evident in videos than in stills! There is a softness and flow in their outfits that donât seem to translate as well in stills. Unfortunately, most of us are only ever going to see them in these outfits through still photographs so itâs a bummer that it doesnât highlight them enough.
Not to be a total soobrangdan or anything, but I think Soobinâs outfit was the most flattering of the bunch.
Iâve mentioned before how I think Soobin could be a Soft Dramatic in the Kibbe system, meaning his lines are largely yang (think long, large, angular, sharp) with a yin undercurrent (think small, soft, rounded, curved). Under the Kibbe system, it is thought that outfits that mimic your bodyâs natural lines are most âharmonious,â and this outfit helps illustrate that!
For starters, the tonal dressing helps to draw attention to how long he is, as there are minimal distractions to what is essentially a column of color. It appears as though their might be a very fine print/pattern to his clothing but these details are quite small/faint and well within the same color family as his suit so the streamlined look is maintained.
The wrap style cut of his suit is also flattering for him as a Soft Dramatic as it adds a touch of yin to what could have been a very boxy suit. The large collar detail, the singular button, and the ruffle details around his neck and wrists add visual interest to his look, and also help to draw out his softer features!
They could have very well just gone for a plain turtleneck for this look and it would have worked out alright. But by going for a ruffled detail in a lighter fabric, it elevated the look even more and was able to balance out the power dressing look by providing the touches of softness that his Soft Dramatic frame calls for.Â
I suppose my only real gripe about this look would have been the color, as it appears to be a little too light for his personal colors. A cooler or richer color palette would have made this perfect!Â
On the topic of colors, I love these colors on Hueningkai! A softer color palette really does make him shine and the pop of bright blue was just enough so as not to distract from his features.
I am feeling a bit conflicted about his coat though. It seems oversized but also not oversized enough. I think if the coat were longer and the collar details were larger, it would have been more flattering on him, as his frame would be able to pull it off!
I suspect Kai to be a potential Flamboyant Natural, which is characterized by blunt yang. The gray coat is about knee length on him, which is relatively long so it still helps to draw attention to his long frame. But when coupled with the light brown pants and the cream/white shoes, his body is visually cut up into three parts and in odd proportions at that.
Flamboyant Naturals are among the Kibbe types that look most at home in relaxed silhouettes, and I think this is where their partnership with Dior could be a mismatch since Dior leans towards very structured, boxy silhouettes. While Kaiâs outfit is a little more relaxed for Diorâs standards, it feels a bit too plain and safe for him.Â
I havenât seen any photos or clips of Kai at Fashion Week with his coat open but I think that might have helped too in terms of making the outfit more ârelaxedâ to suit his blunt yang, as we would be able to see the fabric move around and create different shapes that would have added more visual interest (see how Nicholas Houltâs open coat and hand in pocket pose gives off a more relaxed vibe). These little styling tweaks could really make a difference.
Moving down the line, we have Yeonjun who is dressed in what looks to be a deep purple version of Soobinâs outfit.
Iâve been back and forth about what Yeonjunâs Kibbe type could be. He definitely is some Yang type but I couldnât decide if heâs a very slim Flamboyant Natural or perhaps a (Soft) Dramatic?Â
As a Yang type, again the tonal dressing approach really helps to highlight his long frame. However, his suit doesnât seem to fit him as well as Soobinâs does. This is now making me think that he could potentially be a Flamboyant Natural too, as this style of clothing appears to be restrictive on his frame (even in videos), rather than highlighting it.
The ruffled neckline and gauzy fabric of his shirt, while more ârelaxedâ in comparison to his suit, looks to be a bit too delicate for his frame too. Either a heavier fabric or less frills could have worked better with his lines, as it seems to be distracting from him in this case. On the topic of relaxed lines, his hairstyling for the Dior after party seemed to suit him more. It has volume and structure and it frames his face quite nicely.
I also still think that Yeonjun might be flattered more by lighter colors. In natural light, the suitâs colors donât seem as deep as they do in these red carpet photos but he seems visually weighed down by the darkness of his outfit, imo. Or perhaps they wanted him to take on a more mature image for their PFW debut. Who knows?
Like Iâve said earlier, their outfits look better in motion. When in still photographs, Beomgyuâs coat swallows him up.
Standing at six feet tall, Beomgyu has vertical. However, in comparison to the first three members, his frame is more delicate, and he has some rounded features. Given those, I think Beomgyu could potentially be a Soft Classic Kibbe type. With this Kibbe type, clean and simple lines with a touch of softness would be most harmonious.Â
Hueningkai shared during their livestream that he and Beomgyu have similar outfits but notice how differently it falls on Beomgyu.
While this outfit has fairly simple lines, the oversized sleeves are a bit much on his slender frame. He could benefit from a coat that had a tad more structure, particularly around the shoulders, or if it were a slimmer fit instead of an oversized one.
Now, the majority of the outfitâs colors do suit Beomgyu, the pink sweater is rather distracting for an Autumn type like him. Itâs much too cool and bright for his complexion, imo. It also takes some attention away from his vertical as it breaks up his body. Although it is visually interesting to combine the bright pink with deeper brown pieces, it just wasnât the most flattering combination on him.
Taehyunâs outfit looks cozy but out of place for an event like Paris Fashion Week, especially when you place him beside the rest of his members who have at least two layers to their outfits for more visual interest.
I havenât really figured out what Taehyunâs Kibbe type could be yet but am leaning towards the possibility of Dramatic Classic for him, as his proportions are moderate but he has rather angular facial features. That said, he is still a little too young to be typing and itâs possible he could be growing in his other features as he grows older.
Working under the assumption of being a Dramatic Classic though, this outfit would then be a little too yin for his type. While the fabric lends the touch of yang he needs (the texture makes me think of denim somehow), the shape of the sweater is noticeably rounded and the color blocking visually cuts up his body whereas a more tonal palette could have honored his vertical better. Even his hair is rather soft and floppy for his type. A shorter cut with sharper edges tends to flatter him better.
Depending on the lighting, his top appears a little more muted, which is flattering for him, as I think he could also be an Autumn type. While Autumn types tend to pull off browns, this particular shade appears a little too light on him. A deeper shade of brown like Beomgyuâs coat could have worked better for his complexion, imo.
Overall I think itâs a huge boost and testament to TXTâs popularity that they got to attend Paris Fashion Week as a brand ambassador but so far, Iâd think that their partnership has produced a few more misses than hits, especially in terms of red carpet attire.
But like Iâve said at the beginning, there were a few looks from the Dior Men FW2024 collection that looked to fit TXTâs image a bit more, and as they already have a history of getting custom outfits from the brand, maybe weâll end up seeing TXT in couture pieces too? Or at least one can dream so!
If youâve made it to the end, thank you so much for reading!! Would love to hear your thoughts about their red carpet looks or anything TXT and fashion-related so leave a comment or reblog to share them with me!
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Accomplishment of the Day #2: Keep/Purge Decision Making
Starting like 2 weeks ago I started purging my closet.
Guidelines for keep/purge SO FAR:
1) must actually be a flattering color
2) must actually be a flattering cut
As for point 1, I'm basing my choices off of seasonal color analysis. I've analyzed this to death over the past few years, and am pretty sure my profile is deep autumn.
Execution: High contrast in features, overall olive leaning yellow undertone. Highly saturated color is preferable, and colors I wear need to have a yellow undertone over a blue undertone. If I wear white it should be stark white as an accent for other highly saturated colors. For chunky jewelry I stick to gold, and for delicate jewelry I stick to silver, but I don't mix the two. My dailywear jewelry defaults to gold.
On point 2, the only system I know of is the Kibbe System. It's aimed at afab fem dressing individuals, which is only a portion of my presentation. In that system as far as I can tell I'd be categorized as a soft or dramatic classic type. It's given me a frame of how to emphasize my fem aspects when I want to, and some transferable aspects.
Execution: Moderately sized patterns, high contract, flowy light fabric, gentle definition where it already exists, don't add unnecessary angles, cut sweaters off right above the waist.
Between those two things, I have a pretty good idea of what I should keep vs purge. Anything I have trouble judging based off memory or a glance I check in a mirror in as natural sunlight as possible. If the color is redeemable on me, I'll keep a small portion of the poor cuts to tailor. If it's a good cut but a poor color, I'll pass it along to someone it'll suit better.
I think I have maybe 4 large garbage bags so far of purged things. I probably have half to 2/3 of my closet left to go through.
