#kibbe types

yes! he's a flamboyant natural body type like the people's princess (haaland). blunt width and vertical/a bit of structure added. wears both plush and angular fabrics well, the magic of subtypes.

FN and SD soccer players really are hunky times ten because of their t-shape. yang players have an extreme body geometry to them:

big 3 kibbe men are common in soccer in general because vertical is highly sought after, either to keep the goal blocked off or to make good headers. tall D/narrow-dominant players like kai havertz are the ones where you see their cheekbones and long legs enter the field before them lmao! compare him to saka who is much more yin.

(Bonus: the rest of us turned out to be some sort of g or r except for 1 other n subtype! I thought it was really interesting)

(cont.) Oh and! She just got a leo with a lace square neck (see: gaynor minden sarabande) and it's the best one out of all the leos she has anyway thank you again!!

you're the yin types club! the way my school friend group was all yang (consisting of D - my type, SD, FN, FG & N). seeing a little trend, at least with us here.

you're welcome, i never thought kibbe typing through words without pictures could work. but as long as you go by 'exclusion' principle - e.g. a 5'10 woman won't be a gamine, classic, or romantic, and if her bone structure isn't sharp yang only she will automatically be FN - and check for suitable fabrics, you might as well find your ID 💓

fun fact: i settled my type between SD and D through makeup, not clothes. only matte colors (yang) look cohesive on me, nothing else. gloss and shine (yin) is awful, now i know why; dramatics are the 180 of romantic glam. to be honest... it restricts me, but that is due to stores selling nothing else but glitter & warm tones. i wish brands - and i like to shop and swatch in person instead of doing it online - would bring out matte cool tones with broader shade ranges and more unusual colors 💔 and not just bright winter a la 80s. i saw a color analyst making a chart that concluded most products out there favor light springs and autumns. to all the warm toned R, SN, and SC types out there, being low contrast and yin-influenced is a blessing, use it. the market right now is your oyster.

SN is also one of the easier types to dress (FULL STYLE GUIDE HERE, gabrielle arruda has an amazing kibbe blog) because athletic, textured, loose, and baggy-cut clothes dominate the stores, the thrift shops. it's the persisting beauty standard - see fitness influencers etc - in many countries, and common in the population.

look at the actor everyone's talking about right now, nicholas galitzine (obvious soft natural body type, romantic facial features - like soft lips - with kibbe width and a defined waist, and 5'11 is a moderate yang height). from classic tux/shirt dresser to natural muscle hero. masters of the universe is kind of a kibbe metamorphosis movie 😭 he goes from dressing symmetrical, corporate, to showing off what his body type really is. much like nicholas often shows up as a DC suits guy on the red carpet, which makes his physique hilariously obvious. action genres are N type territory 100%.

bonus: the og he-man, dolph lundgren, is FN, the new version is more sexy-fied with yin. FN is taller (dolph was 6'5 or so?) with longer arms, appears more mature, even broader-looking, and more campy or warrior-like rather than the modernized adam who is there to be hot & clumsy first and foremost; common SN trope. but he-man, whether SN or FN, is camp because he wears the clothes of his opposite kibbe body type: gamine (cropped and short lines, petite and narrow, logan lerman as percy jackson comes to mind).

80s time, today it’s van halen! 

whenever i don’t know where to start, i look at height limits. comparing the group members, right away we see two vertical types, one narrow and high contrast (alex), the other with athletic width (david); and two yin heights below the 5′10 cutoff, one softer (michael), the other more compact (eddie). so, the only kibbe type we don’t see is classic, van halen has all the yin-yang extremes. from there, we look for subtypes and what clothing they rock.

❤️‍🔥 vocalist david lee roth 6′0 - yang height :: flamboyant natural

kibbe width and blunt facial features. vertical; long arms and legs. muscle and torso definition is broad, not narrow. slays big, ultra bold show outfits with texture, leather, deep plunges, angular lines mixed in. best hair is lion-like, bleached to lower contrast, and fuzzy.

❤️‍🔥 guitarist eddie van halen 5′7 - yin height :: flamboyant gamine

compact, youthful, muscular, and petite. geometric facial features that mix yin and yang. broad shoulders and hands. straight body type, not soft. cropped, striped and detailed, fun, bright clothes in a close head to toe line. best hair is layered and square.

❤️‍🔥 bassist michael anthony 5′6 - yin height :: pure romantic

curve over frame. softly wide with rounded shoulder line. can’t go casual like soft natural or patterend & straight-waisted like gamine. ideal outfits are drapes, silks, smaller details, sheer texture, and glitz. best hair is curly, unconstructed, and short.

❤️‍🔥 drummer alex van halen 6′0 - yang height : soft dramatic

t-shape silhouette and narrow vertical with taut, bold sharp facial definition that’s elongated rather than broad. slight soft features added. best clothes are long, tailored, metallic or dark. best hair is sleek or contrasting and voluminous with some wave.

1.) look for a good kibbe blog you like with introduction posts and clothing example pictures. about what 13 body types there are, the height limits, yin (flesh curve) and yang (skeletal angularity) and how it combines in humans, subtype distinctions, and what clothing recommendations mirror the person (e.g. tall body types look for floor length rather than despair with cropped cuts that would never sit right to begin with, it's pretty intuitive, working with what the person already is). avoid the kibbe quiz or don't take it too seriously. it's better to learn the whole system first to train the eye. each (sub-)type has different terminology aka what does the clothing have to do to adapt to you, looking this one up instead helped me most.

KIBBE TYPES x DOMINANT FEATURES:

dramatics have vertical. they're tall and narrow. geometric fabric travels straight down asymmetrically. (SHARP YANG, over 5'6)

naturals have kibbe width. torso/limbs: athletically broad. sturdy fabric accommodates shoulders + blunt edges. (SOFT YANG)

classics have balance. the symmetrical, oval-angular in-between. fabric can't go in either extreme. (BLENDED YIN + YANG)

gamines are petite. they're compact and angular. versatile fabric has to be short, square mixed with soft. (YIN-YANG CONTRAST)

romantics have kibbe curve. the short, true hourglass. draped fabric has to accommodate hips, chest & waist (SOFT YIN, under 5'6)

2.) All that before reading the rather abstract and poetic book of stylist david kibbe that launched all of this ("metamorphosis", there are pdfs online, buying it is expensive) which is often outdated, confusing, or flowery, and a combination of work that other stylists have done before him, belle northrup for instance. he has a new affordable book explaining it again, 'power of style'. more revamped and concrete, holistic, not doing singular features but the person as a whole. david has needlessly dissolved and rebranded the original system a lot, but it finally explains how to do line drawings to find your own type.

the stylist that explains kibbe best is aly art on youtube, she is concise and always a step ahead with an acute eye.

yes, let's type george, this absolute icon ❣️🌹

flamboyant natural, soft natural, soft dramatic, my first options. all of those body types pull off the lion's mane. but i quickly eliminated SN, he was 6'0. princely would be romantic, rebellious would be gamine, it's obvious now why he didn't appear in either of those ways, both don't have vertical - we're all seeing the long legs. so, big 3.

he often dressed in a natural type way like that, jeans and leather, yes. and the early years he was active in favored that kind of style. he would have the stature and image for FN. however, width in clothing is not his best fit and looks cartoonish. as a dramatic i know the effect, this is what happens if you are narrow dominant, not blunt yang.

in later years, he dressed more soft classic (in great jewel tone colors and silky fabrics, which i found nice on him, but the cut wasn't just right yet), which is random and a bit ill-suited on his frame, distracting from the gorgeous face. so i crossed out balance as a type in the first place. soft classic doesn't work for the upper body especially. waist definition needed, and better navigation of the arm area.

Wow. I was really cringe with this paragraph..how did you even put up with this. My god the embarrassment 😭😭

no worries, i didn't cringe 😊 i'm not a native speaker myself, just a writer on the internet. i've penned it all, any fantasy i've seen. language serves to make us get a concept and we can be passionate with it, the rest is secondary, clarity and emotion are first👍🏼 a close-minded person would bother me, or someone not offering substance at all, a grey rock. you aren't any of that dear visitor 💓

now, as for our kibbe types theory of who's attracted to who (our favorite topic here, it's requested often 🥰). dramatic classic seems to be an ID you admire: it's usually the gamines or yin types that like the DC/D kind of people, just like more romantic-influenced body types or soft classics often idolize naturals and the other way around.

DC is a type that is polished, dry-cut, geometric, medium to tall height, and symmetric. i do think that can create a cold or cool image, the dramatic undercurrent gives an edge. gamines are the more animated, smaller, and unconventional IDs. opposites often attract :) let's test it.

kim taehyung probably appeals to you, he's very much the DC posterboy, with his personality the opposite of what his ID is about. DC is a strict lawyer typecast, a doctor, a politician, while kth is fashionably unorthodox and thinks outside boxes of society. still, he is as elegant, easy on the eye, and angular as all classics are. you look for a dark, icy palette, he's a winter type. black color = his strong suit. i also love winters. such crisp hues.

if he's your type, i'm curious whether the theory might be applicaple to anticipate who someone finds attractive in terms of kibbe generally.

toby's exceedingly beautiful, some director better give this guy some traction! plus a proper stylist so he can dress his type, with all the cool toned palettes. grey is so good on him. 💞

now, while his wardrobe is very dramatic classic, he visibly leans yin, especially the face. so first i considered either soft gamine (toby looks way younger than 30 and has contrasting characteristics from many types?) or the romantics (heartthrob energy, fuller lips, rounder nose, long curls, YA appeal, teenage novel cover dream boy).

...but nope, he's far too tall for those IDs. and especially gamine styles are tackily over the top for him. because around 5'11, we have to cross out gamin and romantic. yes, G is fun, but out of proportion for him, and looks unlike toby wallace, but a character. yes, the harry effect. patterns and color pops clash here.

dots look much nicer and surprisingly serious on an actual gamine type (yoongi from bts, also a very yin face: but he does bright color and patterns like he invented it, as typical for G category men)

natural is meh for toby, sometimes nice, or okay, suitable, but not stellar. too much width, too much texture, too much fabric, it doesn't always do the trick. again, a character. soft natural is a possibility, but anything soft yang is hit or miss. i think it hides him sometimes. we see the garment first, not him. the face doesn't light up.

remember, jeans look otherworldly on actual natural types like gigi hadid. we can still see her face before the outfit. the wide shoulders sit in place. it's simple yet fantastic.

and then, as the only remaining yin subtype with vertical, soft dramatic. he never dresses SD so it's hard to tell. reasonably tall with a baby face, it'd work on paper. maybe i see many types in him because subtypes mix things up. feminine but structured, wide yet elongated, androgynous. (again, looking fly in cool tones below)

i figure that because everything feels boring on him, SD is worth looking into if we ever get him in a role like this. i'm curious how much glam he can handle. then again, pure D looks okay on SDs, but it's all boxy and oversized on him. an SD frame is bold enough for that. toby again drowns despite his height, paradoxically. angles don't do him justice at all, it distracts from his looks a lot 😒

so i compared him to SD bill skarsgard, the looming presence of an actual sharp yang frame. narrow, extremely tall, majestic, chiseled, mature and severe. the suit angles just sit where they should. no boxiness. no heartthrob cutiepie face. this is kibbe's most direct-looking, straight to business type, even with yin secondary.

going back to toby i realized he might not be cut out for the D/N type badassery nor the petite G/R-leaning types alike. i don't think he'd be a villain typecast like bill, at least if we go by movie stereotypes. so, it's the middle path plus yin. for SC we go as gentle and draped as we can, unobtrusive, minimal, and i think it's nice for him.

he does have the symmetrical face for a classic, and a frame that has some squarishness. i wish he'd wear waist emphasis once so we can confirm it. i do love him in basics. it's like we finally see his gorgeous face. toning it down always works for classics, and loosening up the fabric is subtle. soft colors like pastel are amazing.

he's 161 cm (5'3) for reference, and sadly it’s super hard to get images of him where he isn't in motion because he's a figure skater 😭 costumes are a big part of skating presentation, so i'd imagine knowing a skater's kibbe type would be useful for their costume designers!

yes to 'kibbe costumes' and analysing image IDs of the figure skating world! i actually have a few more typings up my sleeve going by what i observed some skaters' types could be over the years watching the sport. i did include some people who aren't exactly of kibbe-typeable age (22+) yet to gauge what ID they might become for fun.

yuma kagiyama - soft gamine

mikhail shaidorov - flamboyant gamine

ilia malinin - likely romantic

junhwan cha - soft dramatic

shun sato - soft gamine

donovan carillo - flamboyant gamine

boyang jin - soft dramatic

plushenko - dramatic

adam rippon - dramatic classic

javier fernández - dramatic classic

shoma uno - soft gamine

nathan chen - soft classic

yuna kim - flamboyant natural

riku miura - pure gamine

alyssa liu - soft gamine or romantic

isabeau levito - dramatic classic

mone chiba - soft gamine

kaori sakamoto - pure natural

zhenya - one of the gamines of soft classic

rika kihira - soft gamine

amber glenn - flamboyant natural or soft dramatic

surya bonaly - romantic

BONUS:

as for yuzu. predictably, the king of the ice himself is the most difficult to type. always challenging, complex, and in his own league, it's so in character. i've done a few contradictory kibbe posts on him since his physique and costumes often give changing impressions. i typed him as a pure and theatrical romantic over time, but i could also see a gamine ID (the chameleon of kibbe, after all).

where i'm certain: he looks best in more yin styles like many skaters since the profession favors petite builds much like gymnastics (simone biles is so gamine it hurts!), dramatic/natural/classic are way off the table for him. but the more i try to figure out his type, the more mysterious he becomes.