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Because this issue is one thatās pretty much been ingrained in fandom, there is no easy, quick solution to it.
But I think it can be done. I think the issue is white feminism, particularly white women in the fandom that uphold white feminist values. Especially in regards to fantasy, because the figures they see as empowering (like Galadriel) embody white feminist traits, and they donāt want to denounce those traits because it denounces empowerment.
So I think educating white fans about why their white faves are bad is the first step, while also telling them they can still like these characters, but they need to recognize their faults (as in the racist tropes they fall into). But letās not pretend that we havenāt been doing this for years, that we havenāt been telling white fans what is racist, only for them to not believe us, or say what and what isnāt racist
So a lot of it has to do with white fans being less racist.
On another side of the coin, I think inclusion of more people of color in fandom can really, really turn the tables. Because now we have more people who actually experience racism talking about racism in fandom. And at this point itās not whether or not fans will listen to us, itās more of they have to listen to us because weāre so large in number. And because weāre so large in number and talking about the same thing over and over again, white fans will start to realize that something actually is going on in fandom.
Now again the issue does boil down to majority white fans actually listening, because thatās where the problem lies. Iāve spoken about racism and Tolkien racism so much in the fandom only to find my words on some white womanās blog being ridiculed because she and her Starbucks gang didnāt agree with me.
They donāt take people of color seriously, at all. I have stories and print screens.
And the thing about the Starbucks gang is they are the āleadersā of the fandom, the leaders of the Tolkien fandomāespecially the Silmarillion fandomāand are all Ā white feminist. White feminist donāt care about people of color. At all. If itās not for cookie points they donāt care. Thatās why their Fingons are black but they donāt give a shit about racism.
So that being said, at this point, unless more people of color start talking about racism in the Tolkien fandom, then things arenāt changing. And because the Tolkien fandom is so racist, I donāt see it happening any time soon. That doesnāt mean itās impossible, but itās hard.
So at this point, itās more about changing how white people, especially white women, view racism, which is also really, really hard.
And yeah I talk about this like itās just an issue in the Tolkien fandom, but to be fair, all fantasy fandoms have this issue.
And I just want to say that women of color do happen to fall into white feminism to, but they get that from white women. Therefore, attacking white feminism at its source benefits us all in the long run.Ā