something so deeply relatable about dante sparda for twentysomethings specifically. he wears cool signature jackets. he's broke as fuck. he only eats pizza, beer, and ice cream. he has friends but like also he doesn't have any friends. he's sexy and he knows it. vaguely bad relationship with his father. has absolutely no love life, only fucked up situationships and a couple of unofficial exes who should be in jail. everything haunts him. everything. he has 1 skillset and it's super cool but completely useless to 99% of employers. he's an asshole. he might be suicidal. he cares far too much. he's hard to kill but easy to hurt. he likes rock music.
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Rosso Angelo!Dante, his appearance, and the symbolism behind it in Between Sacrifice and Self Slaughter
Alright I guess we're doing this essay style. Never thought I'd write what amounts to an academic paper about my own writing, but here we are! Let's take a look at how he's described:
"...it's body bubbled, grewā swelled into blackened, heavy plate armor; oppressive, revolting power flooded the room. An intricate design seared along the great breastplate, gold filigree that overlapped and intertwined with a road map of stylized symbols that, once fully formed, lit up a sickening red."
"On the demon's pauldrons were matched ram's heads, just as golden as the wickedly curled horns that twisted back and outwards from the helm, before they came to a sharp point right at the cheek. The face of the demon was hidden, but the plate was reminiscent of the tragedy half of the infamous Greek theater masks, a wailing mouth and down turned eyesāthe differences in the delicate etching of equally molten tears that dripped from burning red eyes.
The rest of the demon's adornments were threaded through with a combination of gold and sickly red light that throbbed, slow and deliberate."
"The massive, grotesque broadsword that materialized in the demon's grip sent a nauseating chill down his spine."
"Pink light accentuated the spikes upon the knee pads, the loose, pointed claws of the gauntlets, the sharpened elbows. Vergil could imagine the vicious way those joints could be used..."
"The monstrous sword was slung lazily across broad shoulders, the dark red cape billowed in the wind... Golden accents shone, the slim sigils almost lost amongst the sunlight."
"Sparks flew as metal grated against metal, the sharpened tips of the cross guard tooth-like in how they curled around the grip; a demonic maw poised to consume its wielder."
"With the snap of his cape, his enemy spun, head cocked in curiosity. The embroidered pattern on the material reminded him of wings."
"The cape fluttered as he moved, with the wing pattern embroidered into it. If he didn't know better, he'd say the Knight looked like an avenging angel, the curl of golden horns a broken halo, rage and desperation in the burn of his eyes."
There are a few reasons I chose some of the things I did! I was possessed by the image, firstly, of the Melpomene-- or the tragedy half of the Greek Comedy and Tragedy masks-- framed by curling golden ram's horns. The tragedy mask specifically spoke to me because Dante usually uses humor to hide how depressed he really is. So the tragedy mask represents the loss of his humor, and the reveal of his true feelings-- the other half of life, if you will. The half of life he typically wallowed in, as he only donned the comedy mask when trying to comfort and reassure those around him. Plus, the loss of Dante's childlike personality / innocence in its entirety at the hands of Mundus. Mundus, who would force the tragedy mask upon him as yet another loss of control, because he wouldn't allow Dante to hide behind the humor that was his go to coping mechanism.
The specific Melpomene that I referenced is this one, which invokes the feelings I was aiming for:
The curvature of the wrinkles I felt accentuated the look of tears running down the face of the mask. I found it important to include that the mask / faceplate is crying as a representation that this isn't what Dante wanted-- he does not want to fight his brother, he does not want to be puppeteered by the Emperor of Hell. He is shedding tears for not only the things that have happened to him, but also the things he will be forced to do in order to survive. Pre-mourning his actions and their consequences, if you will.
I chose gold for the ram's horns in order to invoke a few things: namely, the reference to the Golden Fleece. In Greek mythology, the winged, gold-fleeced ram named Chrysomallos, rescued Phrixus and his sister Helle, from a plot by their stepmother, Ino, to kill them in jealousy. Helle still died, as she fell from the back of Chrysomallos and drowned. Phrixus, however, survived all the way to Colchis, where he then sacrificed the ram to Zeus and gifted the resulting fleece to King Aeƫtes, who took him in. The King kept the fleece in a grove that was sacred to Ares, God of War, Battle Lust, and Manliness.
Now, Ares holds a special place in my heart, and I think Dante is a great example of many of the things Ares represents and symbolizes. Specifically, the myth where He killed His daughter's rapist, was put on trial, and acquitted, and the Homeric Hymn to Ares, Hymn #8, where He's referred to as golden-helmed, shield-bearer, Savior of Cities-- ring any bells? Golden-helmed, for the golden ram's horns, shield-bearer, for putting himself in harm's way to allow his loved ones to live, Savior of Cities for the number of times he's saved the Human World in the canon timeline.
(There's also this quote, from the Getty Museum's article on amber ram's heads, which we'll reference again later: "Throughout Greek culture, the ram figures prominently as a metaphor of strength and courage (thus the association with Ares). Accordingly, Homeric heroes are likened to thick-fleeced lambs (Iliad 3.197).")
One of Ares's sacred birds is the vulture, a bird that both Gods and Man are typically repulsed by, as its a scavenger typically seen after a battle has concluded to feast on the dead. So, what feathers are embroidered onto Rosso Angelo's cape? Vulture feathers. A further reference to the winged ram Chrysomallos, yes-- but also to the scavenged nature of Rosso Angelo, the creature that devoured and consumed what was once Dante, and has built itself up both with the help of Mundus and the corruption that was planted within him.
As well, the wings play into Rosso Angelo's name-- Red Angel. I decided on Rosso Angelo for a few reasons as well. I know much of the fandom picked up the name since rosso is Italian for red in the masculine context, and Dante is our man in red. But, also, I liked that it played into the total take over of Mundus and the corruption; hardly able to tell where Mundus ends and Rosso Angelo begins, since Mundus's magic is the same shade of red as Dante's.
The Golden Fleece isn't the only reason for the ram's horns, though! I also wanted to nod towards the fact that, Dante, in his self hatred, in his willingness to embark on this journey to change fate, has made himself a sacrificial lamb. The idea that he holds-- that as long as those he loves live and survive, he can endure whatever is thrown at him. How easily he accepts that he will be the one to suffer, that his life is forfeit, that he's okay with that.
As well, Ares isn't the only Greek God that's being referenced! Rams are famously used in myths surrounding Hermes, God of Herds and Flocks, Travelers and Hospitality, Roads and Trade, and many more-- also known as the messenger of Zeus, and the guide of the dead to the Underworld! Hermes was the one who sent Chrysomallos to save Phrixus and his sister in the first place, and in another myth He avoided a plague by carrying a ram around the city of Tanagra. Thus, the ram is one of His sacred animals.
The specific link above to the Getty Museum I thoroughly enjoyed. Its primarily about the significance of amber ram's heads, where they're found, and how they were depicted. This quote from it really stuck with me:
"Throughout Greek culture, the ram figures prominently as a metaphor of strength and courage (thus the association with Ares). Accordingly, Homeric heroes are likened to thick-fleeced lambs (Iliad 3.197). In Attic vase painting, rams are sometimes represented in an explicitly sacrificial context. More commonly, the context is heroic, with the ramās sacrificial role implicit only. Such is the case in the story of Phrixos, or of Odysseus. Both the ram that carried Odysseus from the Cyclopsās cave (Odyssey 9.436ff.) and Phrixosās mount are sacrificed as soon as they have finished their tasks. Their sacrifice is part of the story."
Dante, our sacrificial lamb, our tragic hero. He is both the sacrifice, and the hero of our story. Allowing himself to be led astray, but finding strength and courage still. And once his purpose has been fulfilled... well. We'll get to that later in the fanfiction. :)
That paper from Getty Museum absolutely inspired a lot of the thought I put into Rosso Angelo's design, and another detail that it goes into is the connection between ram figures and Ancient Egypt. What really pulled my attention was this bit here:
"Related Egyptian amulet types, representing the king of the gods, Amun Ra, are the flat-backed amulets of a ramās head with a disk and uraeus, or uraeus alone, in hollow gold and lapis lazuli as well as glazed-composition and frit, a feature of burials from the Third Intermediate period onward."
(Which was another reason the accent color is gold! The further reasons we'll get to as well!)
Now, the shape of the ram's horns is also important. Rosso Angelo's are a traditional shape for actual ram's horns, curled up as they are. As a reminder, here's what Sparda looks like, note the down turned horns:
We know that Mundus hates Sparda. Its like. Super Obvious. The design of Nelo Angelo was intended as a fuck you to Sparda, Mundus turning his eldest son into a mimicry of his Father. Of course, he'd do the same with Dante. A lot of Rosso Angelo's design is in reference to Dante's destruction, but I had to include the equal fuck you to Sparda! The paper discusses the significance of how ram's horns curl, and what they mean, too:
"The ram with downturned horns was a symbol of the god Amun, and when he wore the solar disk between his horns or incorporated other solar iconography, the ramās head was one of two guises of Amun Ra (the other was a goose). A ramās head in amber, the subject enhanced and focused by the material from which the amulet was made, would put its wearer under the protection of the deity represented and would by assimilation offer the wearer access to its particular powers."
Amun, who was fused with Ra to become Amun-Ra, the Sun God who was king of the gods in Egypt. Sparda's horns are down-turned, invoking the iconography of Amun-Ra, signaling him as the herald of the light for humanity, since he sealed Mundus away 2,000 years ago. We've seen pieces of Dante's personality as a child, mostly excitable and downright sunny. In the canon timeline as well, Dante follows in Sparda's footsteps as the savior and protector of humanity.
But here, in Between Sacrifice and Self Slaughter, he's none of those things. He is unprotected by his Father. And, really, wouldn't Mundus want to rub his breaking of Sparda's sunshine boy in his face? So the curling of the ram's horns on Rosso Angelo's helm are a reference to not just Greek mythology, but Egyptian as well.
Not only that, but ram's horns began to be associated with Amun after Egypt conquered Kush. So much so, that it gave rise to the Horns of Ammon, which became a popular way for kings, Gods, and emperors to denote their supremacy. This in turn lead to the Roman God of the Sky, Thunder, Justice and King of the Gods, Jupiter, to gain the epithet Jupiter Ammon.
Now, why is Jupiter important?
One of the most famous statues of him is this, located in the Hermitage Museum:
And what does Mundus look like when we first see him in DMC 1?
Mundus modeled himself after some of the God Kings of Ancient times, when he began to mutate after eating the Qliphoth fruit, particularly Zeus, or the Christian God. We can equate Zeus and Jupiter here, since they tend to be seen in extremely similar light.
So. Mundus has not only warped Dante into a bastardization of Sparda, with the differences in horns to invoke the sacrificial lamb imagery, but also fully claim him as his servant, and folded Dante-- now Rosso Angelo-- under his wing of protection, for all that protection was worth in the end.
And that's all just in the helmet design!!
(Another little tidbit-- in the game, Mundus is holding a blue flame, which I interpret as a reference--possibly unintentionally-- to him holding Vergil in the palm of his hand. I changed it to a red flame to represent Dante but, it really mirrors well to the statue here, where Jupiter is holding Victory in his hand. Nelo / Rosso, the key to victory for Mundus in more ways that one, victory over Sparda, victory over the human world, victory over the twins.)
The armor I struggled a bit with describing tbh! I found a really good image that I liked, here:
I liked the imagery of the chest plate, how it split and bent, as well as the protection around the neck. In the end, I leaned more towards Nelo Angelo's original design and the sleek look of it, since that, too, was a mockery of Sparda. (See skittlesandham's absolutely devastatingly gorgeous art for further reference!!!!!)
But the main color of the armor is also important: black to mark Rosso Angelo as the black sheep of Mundus's army, not fully demon, half human in his painful creation. Black sheep, too, of the Sparda family-- the wild twin, the Spare Heir, the carefree one. In my opinion, Dante was never initially meant to take up the Dark Knight's mantle, (I don't think Eva and Sparda meant to have twins in the first place) he was forced to after the tragedy that was the deaths of his parents and brother, after the connections he formed with the humans who looked out for him in his youth. Black to mourn the loss of his family, the loss of his personhood, the loss of the original timeline and his family there, the loss of the lives he will take in order to raise the Qliphoth. Black to absorb any light that Dante might try to find, to guide him back out of the dark, to shroud any attempt Vergil or Trish might make to free Dante of the corruption. To well and truly blot out who Dante once was, completely replaced by the silent, dutiful dog that Mundus has called to heel.
Gold also has a few different significances here! Yes, all the gold up until this point, but, the gold filigree on Rosso Angelo's armor isn't just a mockery of the gold accents on Sparda's demonic form. They're also a mockery of the defining moment of Dante's childhood, the one thing that truly turned his life upside down, the first death that thrust him into the world unprotected:
Mundus took one of the few clear memories Dante had of Eva, and twisted it up. We know that Vergil is more like Sparda in personality, so to me, that means Dante is more like Eva in personality. And what better way to crush a man than to make him into a mockery of his mother? To break Eva and Sparda's sunshine boy? To truly dominate the human woman who fell in love with and gave heirs to his greatest enemy, even in death?
Now, onto the red cape. While yes, a nod to Dante's iconic dusters, a nod to Eva's red shawl, a true sign of why he's called Rosso Angelo and not Nelo Angelo, it also serves to invoke another image: Rubedo, the final big stage in alchemy in the creation of a magnum opus, or a philosopher's stone. Rubedo is the final stage and signals success, (hence why philosopher's stones are depicted as red stones, a la Full Metal Alchemist!) and a philosopher's stone is said to be able to turn base metals into gold, which is why gold can be associated with the color red. The red of the cape then links, also, to Mundus's success with the torture and corruption that he's inflicted on Dante, success in that he's broken Sparda's son, the one who truly inherited Sparda's spirit, his ideals. Successfully destroyed Sparda's legacy. Turned basic materials into gold. His magnum opus of true domination over his most hated enemy, if you will.
I also liked the imagery of the cape billowing out and flowing like blood, as an extra little traumatic treat. :)
There are a few ways to depict rubedo in alchemical art, namely: blood, a phoenix, a rose, a crowned king, or a person in red clothing. Dante, as Rosso Angelo, is wreathed in all of those things. Blood is obvious-- the blood on his hands and the blood spilled to get him there. A phoenix-- which represents rebirth after death, a direct tie to chapter 7, Dante dying from Mundus's torture over and over and continuing to be revived. A rose-- we see Dante with roses so often, and its implied that Eva and Sparda had a rose garden at the manor. Additionally, the Qliphoth, which I'll expand on in a second! A crowned king-- the horns on Nelo Angelo's mask could definitely be considered a crown; golden-helmed Ares, and The Horns of Ammon, yeah? And a person in red clothing-- also kind of obvious in the fact the cape is red, the red glow of the magic that possesses him, and in reference to the fact he wears / wore a red coat and is known as "the red twin."
But the rose, too because rose bushes like to grow wildly and lusciously when fed with blood meal fertilizer. And what does the Qliphoth absorb in DMC 5? What grew within Dante in order to have him taken over by Rosso Angelo? The Qliphoth. So Dante himself is the blood that feeds the parasite, and Rosso Angelo is the rose that blooms from the bloody fertilizer that used to be Dante.
On top of all this, I want to go a bit more into rubedo, and how it pertains to Dante. In the process, there's little proof that it truly works, its more of a "trust the process" thing. In canon, Mundus tries to turn Vergil into his magnum opus, tries to make the perfect being by creating Nelo Angelo. Instead, he just breaks him. But, in DMC 5, Vergil goes through his whole shebang with V and Urizen and when he comes back together, he's stronger than ever. He ate the Qliphoth fruit, yes, but he also embraced his own nature. He came back to himself, became the perfect being that Mundus tried to create, by embracing his own humanity. Much the same way Dante did. Dante embraced his humanity, and that, more than anything, is shown in canon to be his ultimate strength.
His humanity.
The humanity that Mundus has tried so, so hard to crush.
All of this together-- the ram imagery, the denotation of the final stage of rubedo, the invocation of the King of the God's protection, the mockery of Sparda and Eva-- culminates into the character that is Rosso Angelo, the brainwashed puppet that was, once, Dante Sparda. Before, he was the Savior of Cities, the Dark Knight's successor, the Legendary Devil Hunter. Now, he's the Sacrificial Lamb, the Dark Slayer, the Red Angel, the Bloody Rose, Mundus's Feral Dog. Crowned in gold, light snuffed out, a mockery of his family. No longer himself, stripped of what made him who he is, taken over and consumed.
And yet-- still, he is there, his story is there, his purpose is yet to be fulfilled. He endures, and endures, and endures, until the end.
If you've made it this far-- thank you so much for reading my little rant about what Rosso Angelo!Dante looks like, and all of the thought I put into him. I truly appreciate it! This wouldn't be complete without an incredibly special thank you to @skittlesandham for not only the info on alchemy and rubedo, their incredible smarts, and their ability to pull info and research, but their absolutely breathtaking art of him! We had many a discussion on him, and their art of him is part of what broke through my writers block for this chapter! Go give them tons and tons of love, their art had given me such joy and I know it'll do the same for you. <3 As well, a special shout out to my partner, @mjolnirjm (he finally made an account!) who has heard me rant about both BSASS and this post for days and weeks and months on end. Sorry for putting you a bit on blast honey, love you <3
I think Vergil is so fascinating to me because heās been living behind a faƧade his whole life, to the point that heās not really sure who he is without it. He was the studious and mature twin when he and Dante were kids, but I theorize that a lot of that was because with Sparda gone, Vergil took it upon himself to be the āmanā of the house at like. seven years old. He was ruthless and cold in DMC3, but that was because heād been constantly running and hiding for years beforehand, and needed to be cold to survive. He was a shell of his former self as Nelo Angelo. He was falling apart at the seams and so desperately clinging to that desire for the security that comes with ultimate power that he ripped his sonās arm off and cut away his own humanity. Even V and Urizen were both⦠different, in a way, different enough that they couldāve been two people, had they been born naturally. When heās reborn, Vergil keeps up his faƧade, but you can see it slip for a second when he thanks Nero before leaving through a portal.
(Which in retrospect is pretty fucking funny considering Nero has no clue who he is, but also kinda sweet, because it shows that no matter how hard he tries to bury them deep down, Vergil has feelings. He feels things just as much as Dante doesāif not moreābut allowing yourself to display emotion outwardly is a show of weakness, in his experience. Vergil refuses to be perceived as weak, even if it comes at his own detriment.)
Now, after the events of DMC5, Vergil doesnāt have to run anymore. He has Dante back. He has his body back. He has his power back. But itās kinda like a dog chasing a car. He finally caught it, finally achieved that lofty dream of being so powerful that nothing can touch or hurt him, but whatās a dog gonna do with a car? Dogs canāt drive. Vergil doesnāt know what peace is. Heās been running for so long, hiding behind a mask out of necessity for so long, that I donāt think he fully knows who he is outside of killing and surviving. He doesnāt know how to live like a person rather than a cornered animal, and that scares him more than Mundus and his servants ever did.
I feel like after DMC5 (and presumably after returning to the human world when he and Dante finish their weird lil honeymoon in Hell), Vergil doesnāt know how to be human. But now that he has Dante back, now that he has a family and something to live for other than power, heād want to try.
With the twins in hell, I like to think they start spending more and more time in their devil triggers until they just... Stay that way. I haven't seen this anywhere in post-DMC 5 headcanons or stories, but it seems like a natural progression for them.
Hell wouldn't be great for their squishy human bodies, their clothes would get ripped up and gross, human skin doesn't offer much protection. If all they're doing is fighting for fun while constantly soaking up energy from hell itself and all the demons they kill, it's gotta be safer and more convenient to just stay demons. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they also wouldn't age.
And what would all that time in demon form do to their psyches? Maybe doing so suppresses their humanity? Must be nice to take a break from all those pesky human emotions. I'm sure they planned on going back to face Nero... Eventually.. but they procrastinate. They do the easier thing and put it off. Avoid thinking about it. They're having a great time!
For Dante who has always smothered his guilt and trauma with distractions, what better distraction than embracing his demon side for a change? He's played at being human his whole life. How absolutely wonderful it must feel to turn that off without fear of hurting people.
And Vergil has always done that, in a sense. Sure he learned a lot as V but all he really wanted was to feel safe, and he has that now with Dante by his side. Why face the guilt for killing thousands and abandoning his son if he doesn't have to?
For the narrative of a DMC 6, Nero would be more of a focus than the twins, since they would solve any demon problem instantly. And if they get nerfed the fans will RIOT. Easiest way to avoid that is to just keep them in Hell for a while, out of the picture.
So if they're not going to come back to the human world any time soon, I like to think some outside force would have to make them come back. Either Nero going into Hell himself and smacking the humanity back into their thick skulls, or some new antagonist leads them out and finally forces them to end their vacation. With all the embarrassing learning-how-to-be-human-again and a pissed off, exasperated Nero that would entail
you know, itās kind of weird that people say that demon in the dmc series are evil because they donāt have humanity even though humans in the games shown to be cruel and evil even if they outright embrace their humanity heck we see multiple demons in both the games and 07 anime show to be kind heroic and noble to reject their darker nature and embrace their better nature which show that demons have a power to become kinder than any other human but of course we do still see evil demon like mundus abusing killer and harming his own kind that outright applies that demons in his army are forced to be cruel and hateful or else they will be punished by their master in the games but I really want to know your opinion on dmc demons in the games especially on their morality
ive talked about this before but yeah, dmc has never had a hard dichotomy of "humans = good" and "demons = evil" and anyone claiming this is true has a very poor understanding of dmc lore and is only capable of very surface level readings of the text. it's quite literally never been a thing even in the very first game, which deals with sparda as a notable instance of a "good" demon, followed by trish, who also ends up choosing love and compassion over the cruelty of her former master.
as ive said before, 3 of the 5 games deal with human evils (arius is a billionaire ceo, arkham is a wife killer, the order are a corrupt organized religion) and then you have dmc5 which is vergil's personal journey and grappling with himself. imo, the take away from all of this is that there isn't actually a whole lot of difference between the evils of humanity and the evils of demon kind, ie humans and demons are essentially just two sides of the same coin. you can have demons as kind as any human, you can have humans as cruel as any demon, lady says as much at the end of dmc3.
there's also the whole nature vs nurture aspect of it too, and environmental factors such as demons, yknow, living in hell and hell is not a kind place at all. mundus absolutely has an influence on demon behaviour considering yeah, he punishes those he deems not performing up to his standards and has a very low view of humans in general. he's an outlier in terms of cruelty, even amongst demons.
i feel like in general, it's a bit more accurate to say demons are driven more so by base desires like power and survival. not necessarily evil, just territorial and a bit more simplistic in terms of instincts. humans on the other hand, embody ambition and are generally more complex in their wants and needs. this is why, statistically in the games, humans tend to be the ultimate overarching antagonists (with the exception of mundus... who also behaves suspiciously like a human dictator. hm. food for thought.) while demons are more of a backdropping and not so much the driving force of the conflict.
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My brief theories on hybrid psychology, biology, lifespan, historical connections to our world, and the possibility of other hybrids in the DMC world aside from the loser twins and Nero.
In Devil May Cry, being a hybrid is not exactly seen as a freak of nature but rather as something disgraceful on the demons' side. The reason for this is quite simple: humans are considered "food" for demons. Human blood is both literally and spiritually a fuel, an essential substance that feeds the demons. The fact that a demon has "disgraced" itself to the point of mating with "food" is a big deal among demons. A lot of Devil May Cry media comment on thisāit's even directly said of Sparda that he "turned into a lustful monkey," because, in their eyes, humans are lustful monkeys. Worse, humans die very quickly; they're weak and fragile. You can imagine how much worse it is for demons, where power is everything.
As for humans, there is no canon information about their perspective that I know of. My theory is that some of the "demigods" and mythological figures mentioned in the history of the world are hybrids who were born on Earth before the separation of the two worlds, but that's a topic for another day. As far as we know, the hybrids that are on Earth right now are Dante, Vergil, Nero, and (probably) Matier.
What confuses me more is biology. Humans and demons are different species, even though they were once "one." And even devils differ from each other by looks, too. While Mundus looks like a human man, particularly Zeus, Sparda looks like a bug. Agrosax has both a female and a male body. But it looks like they can alter their looks and DNA enough to have a human-like body by using their demonic magic.
And they can have hybrids, hybridity works strangely in humans and animals too.
In Homo sapiens-Neanderthal hybrids, only the female was fertile.
In the animal kingdom, female hybrids are usually fertile unless there is a direct biological problem.
This is a Mule. A hybrid born from a female horse and a male donkey. Female Mule can only breed with male horses. Male Mule are infertile.
This is a Hinny, born from a female donkey and a male horse. Both male and female ones are infertile.
Liger's are both thought to be unfertile, but like Mule's, female Liger's can breed with male lions, creating Liliger. Tigon females are fertile, but males are not. A female Tigon and a male tiger had bred and created Titigon.
The reason for this is Haldane's Rule. When I tried to apply it to demon-human hybrids, I came up with something quite funny: Vergil shouldn't have been able to have a child. The Sparda twins are supposed to be infertile. But if we replace this with demon fuckery, we get at least the following result:
Male hybrid: Can breed with human females. Cannot breed with demon females. Cannot breed with Hybrid females.
Female hybrid: Cannot breed with human males. Can breed with demon males. Cannot breed with Hybrid males.
A sad day for people with Vergil/hybrid!Nero's mother OCs because hybrids are unable to breed and produce offspring. Probably.
Their partial infertility isnāt the strange partāthatās expected. Hybrids are known to have accelerated healing, incredible strength, agility, speedāthe list goes on. These are part of their demonic heritage. But the truly fascinating aspect is how it plays into their biology. The human body can't display even half the strength of hybrids unless adrenaline is involved. If humans could perform such actions, our muscles would tear, our bones would break, and our blood vessels would rupture. Not to mention the risk of brain hemorrhage, blood coming out of the eyes and ears, or even heart attacks. The reason hybrids donāt suffer from these conditions might be due to their superior healing abilities, but even that explanation only scratches the surface. Itās directly related to the fact that they are hybrids.
The reason why Dante and Vergil can fall or jump from great heights (with Vergil literally falling into hell and only fainting, and Dante jumping off a cliff in DMC4) and continue on as if nothing happened is perhaps due to the high ratio of collagen, protein, and hydroxyapatite in their bones. This trait likely begins developing in the womb, as their bodies produce an abundance of osteoblasts. However, it would be nearly impossible for human women to survive such pregnancies. The human body would struggle to provide the immense amount of nutrition a half-demon child requires, leading to either a miscarriage or the mother dying from malnutrition and exhaustion. This could explain why hybrids are so rare.
How Eva carried TWO hybrid babies remains a mystery, but Sparda was likely-no, surely highly active during and after the pregnancy. Otherwise, Eva would not have survived, since there are six hours between Vergil and Danteās births.
I believe that if a hybrid woman ever became pregnant by a human male or a hybrid male, her pregnancy would be shorter. Since hybrids are not fully human, their bodies function in a way that's almost like Homo sapiens 2.0. Their growth factors would be insane:
-Growth hormone would be highly elevated.
-their IGF1 would be mutated, leading to significantly increased cell growth and development
-mutated CDKs would regulate the cell cycle to promote faster cell division and growth.
-placental efficiency would be enhanced, with Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor doubling the blood flow and nutrition supply. The cyncytin genes would also be more active.
Anyway, you get the picture. Hybrid women could grow and pack a whole ass baby in about 4 months and call it a day. This process may be even faster in Devil Trigger form, but Hybrids can't hold their DT long enough.
What bugs my mind is whether female hybrids would have periods. I think so? But the duration and intensity would likely differ from human women.
One day I will write in-depth about female and male hybrid anatomy but for now, this is enough.
Another thing is, assuming hybrids are not easily cut or pierced by mundane weapons, their skin must produce high levels of keratin. Keratin is a protein that gives nails their hardness and forms the outer layer of the skin (epidermis). The calcificationāthe storage of calcium salts in the skināmust be high. At the same time, neither Dante, Nero, nor Vergil have any scars, acne scars, blackheads, or blemishes. Their skin heals perfectly, restoring itself to its original state. The white blood cells of hybrids must be working like crazy lol. To put it crudely, when they get a cutāor any wound, for that matter the white cells ring alarm bells and rush to close the wound. Blood clotting (hemostasis) begins, then cytokines are released and after that the bleeding stops, what follows is tissue formation (Proliferation). This happens in such a short time that it is hard to believe. At the same time, as I mentioned above, the high collagen and keratin ratios of hybrids also prevent scars. It's really strange.
Another thing is that hybrids have a highly developed sense of smell, hearing and sight. In DMC5, Dante could smell Urizen from quite a distance. And demons, even hybrids, have their own scent. According to Dante, it's not a nice smell. That's my guess, too. I think the sons of Sparda are fire-based demons, considering their devil trigger form (I don't know what to think of Nero because his DT form is very vague and very humanoid. But he still can be a fire-based demon, considering Sparda, Agrosax, and Berial are prolly fire-based demons but none look alike). Therefore, the smell of all three could be like burnt flesh or a sooty, weird grotesque smell which I like the idea of. This is probably the smell of their demon blood mixing with their human blood. The hybrids smell must differ from each other based on their type. We've seen demons from the four elements throughout the series, but I think there could be more concept-based demons, like ādarknessā because nobody knows where to put these demons, so they just call them darkness or void⦠things like that. Even though we humans are the same species, we can give ourselves different names to feel special, so it's not surprising.
Hybrids also have the ability to sense energy. This is something we humans possess as well since we live in an energy field and are always in touch with it, we can feel the energies around us. Itās the same for hybrids, but their ability to transfer and sense energy is far beyond what we can ever achieve. Itās canon that demonic energies can bring a hybridās demon side to the surface, calling and provoking it. In Deadly Fortune, when Yamato is fixed/healed by Nero, Dante feels a sudden and all-too-familiar demonic energy that unintentionally triggers his demonic side for a moment. This is Yamatoās call. Danteās demon side is provoked by her and, inevitably, by Vergilās energy because I wholeheartedly believe Yamato contains a part of Vergilās soul. They are inbound.
Not much is known about how long hybrids live, but they do age, as weāve seen with Dante and Matier. Interestingly, Matier lived long enough to meet Sparda. I think hybrids outlive humans, and an average lifespan of 300 years, like Tieflings. Iāll delve into the biological factors of this separately another time.
In the Devil May Cry anime, thereās an episode about a devilās sincere love for a human. This kinda confirmed my belief that there MUST be other hybrids besides shit twins, Nero and Matier. People in love sometimes have sex, and if they want to, children are born as a result. However, based on what I mentioned earlier, Iām not sure how healthy the pregnancy would be.
The character themes are the best source for understanding the inner conflict a hybrid experiences. Their demon and human souls and blood clash with each other, fighting to see which will come out as the victor. This is evident even with Nero, which is interesting because heās only about 15% demon, having a hybrid dad and a human mom. Itās weird because, physically, demon blood is dominant, but according to the lore, the human soul is superior. Nero has so little demon blood that he nearly lacks the demonic smell (Dante in Deadly Fortune and Malphas in Devil May Cry 5 comments about this). Heās more human than the twinsāa very domestic boy. His psyche should be stronger than the twins.Ā
Dante's theme songs, however, are understandable, he is a half-breed, a perfect balance of two opposite sides.
We see that these demonic urges are directed toward other demons, but Iām curious about whether hybrids have any violent urges toward humans. They are half-demon, after all. Demons are the predators of humansāSparda himself ate humans before he awoke to justice. We humans even have cannibalistic urges, thanks to female genome transaction, our time cannibalizing each other has scorched into our brains.Ā
Human blood is not just tasty to demons yet hybrids are not berserkers or lesser demons with zero intelligence. They have a brain and a human heart; I donāt see them openly fantasizing about mauling or eating people. But Iām pretty sure the smell of human blood would be appealing to them. It might be like smelling a barbecue and thinking, āDamn, that smells good.ā But maybe it wouldnāt be enticing enough to make them attack or eat people. You wouldn't want to eat an alive cow while it stands there cowly, eating grass. You may even interact with it in a nonaggressive way.
Thatās how I think hybrids would act towards humans if they were in control. Yeah, IF. Returning to Sparda Kinās theme songs, the inner conflict of a hybrid makes sense with what Iāve said earlier. When you lose control and your demonic side takes over, you essentially leave part of your human consciousness in the hands of an apex predator. In such moments, you could harm those you love or innocent people, or commit worse acts.
In the Bible, Nephilim are said to eat humans. This is, of course, a biased point of view, assuming that Abrahamic religions derive their sources from ancient records. But these Nephilim (hybrids) are not all the same; they are all different from each other and this is proven by science, human hybrids and animal hybrids are always different. It is also said that Nephilim are immortal, but there is no explicit mention that they are truly immortal; they simply die. However, the existence of man-eating Nephilim might suggest that some hybrids would indeed have a desire to eat humans. By the way, Nephilim are directly related to our world and the DMC hybrid conceptāgiants. Hybrids result from the mating of Annunaki people left on Earth with humans.
And don't even get me started on the creepy similarity between the Annunaki legend and Sparda and Mundus. :l
Well, uhh, that's all. I didn't touch on everything I wanted to touch on, but this post would be too long if I let myself go. Have a good day!
V is one of the most deliberately fragile characters Devil May Cry has ever put at the centre of the action. He enters DMC5 looking like a new figure entirely - physically weak, poetic, strange, dependent on summoned familiars rather than his own body - and the game eventually reveals that he's Vergil's human half, created when Vergil used Yamata to divide himself from Urizen, his demonic half. The game also makes clear that V's body is rapidly breaking down, which gives everything he does a built-in sense of urgency and mortality.
V is the part of Vergil that can feel regret, exhaustion, fear, and self-knowledge. Urizen carries the appetite for power stripped free of human vulnerability; V carries the weakness Vergil tried to cast off, along with memory, pain, and the ability to look at what he's become with horror rather than hunger. So V's function in the story is deeply psychological; he turns Vergil from a simple looming antagonist into a split self.
He also changes the tone of the game whenever he's on-screen. Nero and Dante both push energy outward, while V pulls it inward. He slows scenes down. He makes the story more gothic, more self-conscious, more death-haunted. Even his combat style tells you who he is; he can't kill enemies directly until the final blow, and he survives by command, distance, and reliance on embodiments of old trauma. The three familiars - Griffon, Shadow, and Nightmare - are explicitly tied to Vergil's past as Nelo Angelo and are framed as embodied memories or nightmares split off with him.
Archetypally, he sits somewhere between the dying poet, the divided self, the guilty remnant, and the man trying to outrun consequences he already understands. He feels very much like a confessional version of Vergil; the version that can finally admit the cost of everything. He's not simply "soft Vergil", but the portion of Vergil that can no longer avoid human truth.
Psychology
The strongest psychological frame for V isn't a neat real-world diagnosis so much as severe fragmentation. He's literally a split-off self, and the game keeps treating him as someone forced to live inside everything Vergil wanted to disown: weakness, bodily decline, vulnerability, fear, and memory. That makes any diagnosis conversation a little unusual from the start, because his mental state is inseparable from being metaphysically incomplete.
Trauma is central to him. The game's late material reveals that the familiars are tied to Vergil's time as Nelo Angelo, and they're repeatedly described in ways that tie them to haunting memory and nightmare. Griffon's final line to Dante - about this being "the end of Vergil's nightmares" - is especially revealing. V isn't simply accompanied by demons, he's accompanied by the afterlife of Vergil's torture, enslavement, and degradation under Mundus.
That means a trauma-informed reading is very strong. V carries the part of Vergil that remembers what was done to him and what he became. He also shows the emotional consequences much more openly than Vergil usually does. There's frailty, visible despair, urgency, and a kind of intimate fatalism in him. He often feels like a person living in the aftermath of prolonged damage rather than someone simply pursuing a goal.
Dissociative language also comes naturally to him, though in his case it's almost literal rather than metaphorical. V is a self cut away from itself. He's human feeling separated from demonic force, but also a consciousness trying to function while missing half of its total structure. He knows what Urizen is, he knows what reunion means. He wants to stop Urizen, yet he's also moving toward re-merging with him the entire time. That creates a built-in instability of identity. He's acting against the very outcome he's also orchestrating.
What feels most psychologically true about him is guilt joined to necessity. V comes across like someone who understands the moral and emotional weight of what Vergil's done in a way Urizen never could. He also still chooses reunion. That's why he's tragic - he's not simply trying to undo damage, but trying to restore the self that caused it, knowing full well what that means.
Strengths and Flaws
V's biggest strength is insight. He understands the stakes of the story at a depth almost nobody else does, because he's looking at them from the inside. He knows Urizen's nature, knows Vergil's history, and knows exactly how desperate the situation is. That gives him a clarity neither Nero nor Dante quite has for most of the game.
He's also resilient in a very particular way. Physically, he's one of the weakest protagonists in the series. Practically everything about his design emphasises collapse: the cane, the tattoos, the limp-seeming movements, the fact that his body is disintegrating. Even so, he keeps moving. He survives on will, planning, and the ability to keep functioning long after strength in the ordinary sense has left him.
Another strength is honesty, at least inwardly. V is more self-aware than Vergil usually allows himself to be. He doesn't have Urizen's luxury of pure appetite; he knows fear, he knows regret, he knows what's been lost. That makes him capable of a kind of moral seriousness the other half lacks.
His flaws are inseparable from his role. The biggest is secrecy. He manipulates Nero and Dante by omission for almost the entire game. He withholds the truth about who he is and what he intends, not because he lacks understanding, but because full honesty would make his goal much harder to achieve. That means even his most sympathetic traits sit alongside real manipulation.
There's also a passivity in him that can be frustrating. V observes brilliantly and feels deeply, but he still chooses restoration over rupture. He never truly commits to letting Vergil end. He can recognise catastrophe and still move toward it. That gives him a kind of fatal weakness; he knows, but he proceeds anyway.
His dependence is another flaw, though it's also just his condition. He can't act alone in the usual way; he relies on Nero, on Dante, on his familiars, on timing, on other people not fully understanding him until it's too late. That makes him emotionally compelling, but it also means he's never a straight-forwardly autonomous character.
Relationships
VERGIL / URIZEN
This is the central relationship by definition, but it still deserves treating as a relationship because V and Urizen aren't just plot halves - they're two hostile forms of the same self. Urizen represents the part of Vergil that rejects weakness, humanity, and memory; V is made of exactly those things. So V's whole existence becomes an argument with the self that created him.
V isn't trying to destroy Urizen in any final sense; he's trying to reach him, contain him, and ultimately reunite with him. There's fear in that, but there's also recognition. V knows Urizen is monstrous. He also knows Urizen is still him. That makes their dynamic much more intimate than a normal hero-villain conflict.
The reunion is what gives V his most tragic quality. He spends the entire game as the part of Vergil capable of remorse and reflection, then chooses to become whole again anyway. That means his self-knowledge doesn't save him from returning to the larger pattern, it just makes the choice sadder.
GRIFFON
Griffon is probably the most socially important relationship V has during the game. He's talkative, mocking, impatient, and much more openly expressive than Shadow or Nightmare, which makes him feel almost like V's externalised commentary track. More importantly, Griffon is one of the embodied nightmares split from Vergil's Nelo Angelo trauma, so the relationship is doing two things at once: it's practical companionship, and it's V living alongside a piece of his own haunting past.
There's real fondness in the dynamic, or at least a roughened version of it. Griffon needles V constantly, but he's also loyal to him. The relationship feels familiar, almost lived-in, in a way that suggests V's companionship with the familiars is one of the few things keeping him emotionally coherent. Griffon gives him voice, friction, and company while he's otherwise very alone.
His final line about the end of Vergil's nightmares reframes the whole relationship. Griffon was never just a pet or a tool, but one part of the pain V had to carry until reunion became possible.
SHADOW
Shadow's relationship with V is quieter, but it matters for exactly that reason. Shadow feels more instinctive, less verbal, more like a living extension of mood and defense. If Griffon externalises banter and consciousness, Shadow feels closer to fear, reflex, and animal protection.
Because Shadow, too, is one of the nightmare-memories tied to Vergil's past, the relationship still has that underlying tragedy. V is being protected by the very things that once haunted or harmed the larger self. His survival depends on mastering, or at least coexisting with, the remnants of trauma.
NIGHTMARE
Nightmare is the most frightening of the familiars, and the one that makes the trauma reading hardest to ignore. He's huge, destructive, and initially hostile even within V's own set of companions. Nightmare destroys Griffon and Shadow in an early confrontation, which underlines how unstable this whole internal ecosystem really is.
That makes V's relationship with Nightmare feel less companionable and more like managing a living concentration of catastrophic force. If Griffon and Shadow can resemble damaged companions, Nightmare feels closer to unprocessed terror or rage; something V can call on, but never fully domesticate. It tells you a lot about V that even his own power comes in the form of a thing that feels bigger and harsher than he is.
NERO
V's relationship with Nero is built on manipulation, necessity, and a strange kind of trust. He pulls Nero into the hunt for Urizen without telling him the full truth, so from the start the relationship is ethically compromised. At the same time, V clearly relies on Nero; he needs his strength, his momentum, and his willingness to act where V physically can't.
Nero gives V something close to faith without quite knowing it. Nero keeps moving on V's behalf because he assumes there's a goal worth serving. V abuses that trust by omission, but the fact he leans on Nero so heavily still matters. There's a way in which Nero becomes the future V can't access: vitality, directness, and the chance to choose something other than old obsession.
That becomes even sharper once the Vergil revelation lands and Dante tells Nero that Vergil is his father. Suddenly, V's use of Nero becomes tangled up with bloodline and inheritance in a way Nero never consented to. It makes the whole dynamic retrospectively sadder and uglier.
DANTE
V's relationship with Dante is built around confession delayed almost to breaking point. Dante is the one person who could most fully understand the stakes of Vergil's return, which is exactly why V can't be fully honest with him. He needs Dante close enough to defeat Urizen and far enough from the truth that reunion can still happen.
Dante is being asked to help clean up the consequences of Vergil yet again, and V is the one asking while secretly being Vergil's human half. The game gets a lot of mileage out of that hidden intimacy; V knows Dante on a level no one else in the cast can, because he's made from Dante's brother. Dante, meanwhile, treats V as a strange but useful ally until the truth arrives.
The result is one of the more painful relationships in the game because Dante is, in effect, being recruited into restoring the very person he's spent so long fighting.
Just for Fun / Typology
MBTI - INFJ
He's introspective, symbolic, private, and intensely focused on underlying meaning rather than surface activity. His whole way of speaking is filtered through image, literature, and implication. He doesn't feel improvisational in the extroverted sense or openly values-first in the Fi sense. He feels directed by a hidden internal vision he's carrying toward an end only he fully understands.
The judging side also matters. V is frail and poetic, but he's not scattered. He's purposeful. Everything he does is moving toward reunion, even when he dresses that motion up in ambiguity. That long inward line of intent feels much more INFJ than INFP to me.
MORAL ALIGNMENT - True Neutral shading toward Neutral Good
He's not morally blank. He has regret, insight, and more humanity than Urizen. Still, his actual actions are too compromised for a straight-forward Good label. He manipulates people, conceals the truth, and knowingly works toward restoring Vergil. That keeps him from sitting comfortably in Good.
At the same time, Evil also feels wrong. V isn't driven by cruelty, appetite, or indifference; he understands suffering too clearly for that. His problem isn't that he doesn't care, it's that care and guilt are still not enough to stop him choosing reunion.
So True Neutral suits him best because he's operating from necessity, self-preservation, and incomplete remorse rather than from a stable ethical position. The slight pull toward Neutral Good comes from his very real capacity for reflection, sorrow, and human feeling, but he never fully lives inside that pull.
Conclusion
V is insightful, secretive, fragile, and tragic in a very specific way; he understands the damage and still can't choose any future except recombination. His relationships with the familiars turn trauma into companionship, his relationships with Nero and Dante turn hidden truth into manipulation, and his entire existence reframes Vergil as someone whose humanity was never absent - just split-off, weakened, and dying.
When it comes to your writing how do you see the differences between the reboot interpretation of Dante and Vergil versus their classic counterparts? What parts stick out to you as similar or as different?
So, I'm in the minority camp that thinks Ninja Theory did kind of an interesting thing when they opted to switch storylines and birth order (for whatever that's worth with identical twins) between Dante and Vergil in the reboot.
I know a lot of people hate the idea of Vergil being the "little brother" in the equation and thought it made no sense and was a meaningless change, and I get where they're coming from, because it probably was - what I mean is, it likely wasn't intentional on NT's part, for any other reason than an attempt to instead make Dante the "cool older brother" and to differentiate themselves in one more way from OG DMC.
But what's interesting about both the shift in birth order and the storyline swap is that rather than undermining their innate characters, it actually reinforced them, and proved that no matter the formative circumstances, Dante will act like Dante and Vergil will act like Vergil:
Dante, whether he's the one protected by Eva or disenfranchised from society and family, will become secretly wounded, insouciant, irreverent, sardonic, flippant and cynical. He will be in denial about the true danger posed by Mundus, and determined to avoid his father's legacy, but reluctantly protect humanity when called upon - though not for free, of course. The toilets need flushing.
Vergil, whether he comes from rubble or privilege, will always be ambitious, idealistic striving, driven, calculating but rash, with the overconfidence of youth and a reach exceeding his grasp. He will have an Icarusian fall, and ultimately a phoenix-like redemption. (We presume a DmC sequel would/have follow(ed) the same reconciliation trajectory, because what else would make sense/serve the story?)
It also rather neatly answers and dovetails with the retroactive rhetorical question classic Vergil asks himself at the top of the Qliphoth, whether things would have been different if he'd had Dante's life, and Dante had his.
And the answer we already have from reboot is, no, not really. The outcome could only have been different if the individuals involved were totally different people - but their core character traits, I think, stay true and remain intact in both versions.
Still, obviously there are variations in character within those greater macro aspects, things that make the expression of these personality traits different, which we can attribute to formative experience, and the swapped backstory.
For instance, Classic Dante hides his profound psychological damage by being a party guy and a rock n' roll rodeo clown whereas DmC Dante wears his inside out; we can see his sullen punk-rock defensiveness, his bitterness, and we do not doubt his damage for a minute. Being the disenfranchised one has left its mark on him, and he has no ability or willingness to mask his trauma. Both keep others at arms' length, but ironically, ReDante actually is more receptive to intimacy and connection, possibly because he doesn't have a false front, or a whole circus-like faƧade, just a default defensive stance he holds as a last resort, after being embattled his entire life. He has been given the classic Vergil backstory, and while he becomes similarly defensive and embittered, he reacts like Dante, not classic Vergil.
Neither Dante is ever canonically shown as having any particular interest in humans or humanity as a whole, so much as a keen interest in killing demons (which is why the ending fraternal conflict of reboot rings so false, non sequitur and hollow). Both shrug off human collateral damage, and if classic Dante is ever bothered by the mass casualties incurred in the raising of the Qliphoth, he never mentions it as he trips over their bodies to run to his brother. ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Of the two, I think Vergil is the more different, with more personality contrast between interpretations - though his core traits remain: curiosity, intrepidity, enthusiasm, perfectionism, impulsivity, absolutism. With the strife removed from his life, Vergil is able to be emotionally open, to express his love for his brother, and his ambition comes from a proactive place instead of a reactive one.
However, like Dante, all his youthful flaws remain intact. He will always be the one who falls - and Dante will always be the one who fails to act at the crucial moment. The tragedy is thus complete.
The greatest difference, I think, is that classic Vergil has even less use for humans than Dante, whereas ReVergil is arguably the only one who actually has any appreciation for humanity as a class (even if he regards them as lesser beings) - which actually puts him more in line with classic Sparda, ironically, than anyone else. Reboot Sparda is never shown as having any particular interest in humans or their fate, and he and Eva are essentially depicted as just hiding out in the human world like it's witness protection.
That said, I'm sure I'm missing something, so I'm actually interested in hearing other people's opinions on this.