#coco theory

Yes we are back with more from the Land of Coco! 

I’m not apologizing for my Coco dumping I am just too far gone to be rescued at this point. 

And again if you haven’t seen Coco this is a spoiler question, so what are you still doing here, GO SEE COCO! Then come back here and lets discuss!! 

Alright so here’s my thing this time. I have watched all behind the scenes, watched the movie over 30 times now, and have read through the book and I still don’t know the answer to this question. 

The only last resort I have is either A. ask the writers on twitter, that is if they have a twitter or B. watch the commentary, which when i do eventually do that I will probably go back and either delete this post or edit it. 

Until I accomplish either of those things I really hate trashing on the Pixar Animators because when they add in a detail my gawds do they add in a detail. 

From expressions of horror 

To bangs bobbing when they are suppose to. 

They animate like no bodies business and they do it amazingly. 

But i really think they were lazy when it comes to this. 

Alright so remember Hector’s Frida Costume that we first see 

So we get it he wants to look like Frida and he makes a very convincing Frida. We all know though that the costume didn’t work and is obtained by The Department of Relations authorities and that they don’t give it back. 

Okay so that’s a fact and we can accept that.  

Hector apologizes to Ceci for losing the dress and Ceci is of course pissed because now she has to make another one. 

So after they leave the rehearsal area, Hector and Miguel arrive at the plaza theater and preform then separate, right?

Right, but Hector knows where Miguel is going so all he needs is a costume to get into Cruz’s party. 

But wait where in the world did he get the costume. 

No, seriously really think about it, where did he get it? 

Sunrise is coming and as soon as Miguel meets de la Cruz he’ll leave, Hector knows this so he knows he doesn’t have a lot of time. Both the Department of Relations and Ceci’s  warehouse are too far away for him to go to either, plus Ceci wouldn’t give him another costume cause then she would have lost two and if even if Hector went back to the Department he would have to sneak in take the costume then sneak back out. 

There is literally no time for that. 

So here is what I think Hector did. 

After he losses Miguel he goes back to the backstage of the competition and puts together a Frida costume by whats left around. In the book they talk about how after the competition every thing was just left there, so if that’s the same in the movie, then Hector could have easily thrown something together especially if he kept the unibrow on him. That’s easy for him to keep cause it could have stuck to the inside of his jacket. 

The only problem i have with this theory is that there really is no reason why the Frida costume would look the EXACT same as the first one. The top alone should at least be different but no it’s the exact same costume, this time he’s just missing the jewelry. 

I really think the animators didn’t want to create a whole new Frida costume plus when he shows up to the security guard the animators wanted the audience to know it was Hector and not Frida so they used the same costume as before.

But they just skipped over on how he got the same costume as before and it kinda ticks me off.  But then again this is all just me and I haven’t looked at all my options, the answer might be just in front of me and I don’t see it.  So what do you all think of this? Where do you think Hector got the costume, please message me about it or comment on this post. I wanna talk about it ‘cause I really love talking about this movie!  Alright guys my next post should be about the book so I’ll see ya guys then. 

Ernesto de la Cruz and Hector Rivera are ex-lovers.

Miguel: My great-great-grandfather was a musician.

Hector: Spent his life performing like a monkey for complete strangers? Bleh, no thank you, no.

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I just had a thought.  Hector was trying to Miguel that he doesn’t have to be a musician just to be like your idol.  His love and passion for music came straight from his heart.  Think about it.  Hector said bad stuff about Ernesto de la Cruz and Miguel is like, “Pff, what do you know? You don’t know what you are talking about”.  Hector knows that Ernesto stole his songs instead of making his own.  In a way, Hector is subtly telling Miguel that you shouldn’t grow up to be like someone who cheated by taking someone’s pieces of art they created from their heart.  Miguel is better than that.  Sure, he is just a kid and he thinks that Ernesto was his one and only inspiration to be a musician.  But Miguel goes to the mariachi plaza to be surrounded by people who play music and dance.  Music comes from the heart and soul, not from some famous musician/movie star.

When Hector said, “Im not gonna miss my one chance to cross that bridge  because you want to live out some stupid musical fantasy”, in a way, Hector was right.  Hector thought Miguel came to the Land of the Dead for nothing.  Miguel doesn’t need Ernesto’s/a musician’s blessing just to get approval.  He should just play music and let nothing stop him.  If its his passion, he should just DO IT!  Hector could’ve said “Don’t be like that cheating piece of scum.”  But he did say “You’ll thank me later” when he was trying to take Miguel to his relatives.  Miguel could have one of his relatives take him home (buuuut of course, there is the cursed guitar and the curse wouldn’t have been lifted if he went back to square one and blah blah blah).

No problem! Thanks for asking!

Victoria is a bit of a mystery. The bits of information we have about her is that she’s Coco’s eldest daughter, she never married or had children, and that she liked to make huaraches. Thats about it. She didn’t have a lot of lines in the film either so not a lot given to us about her. Except for the one line she gives to Miguel, ‘Vitamins are a real thing.’

I know the line is supposed to be a joke, but I thought maybe Victoria actually knew a lot about different kinds of medicine in her life. So my theory to Victoria’s death is that she might have had health issues that required her to take a lot of medication. Adding to that theory is Victoria’s never getting married or having children, so maybe it was an ongoing medical condition that prevented her from doing so. I’m not an expert on medical conditions so I’m hesitant to say anything definitive about what I think it could have been. But it was a medical condition that was treatable and allowed her to live an okay life making shoes while she took medicine for it, but ultimately it wasn’t curable and it eventually caught up with her. 

I've seen a lot of people debating about the ages the family members appear as in the land of the dead and how most of them died early because COCO was old when she was in the land of the dead in the end of the movie. But I think I have a better answer

the way you are the most remembered is how you appear in the land of the dead

When watching the movie I assumed Hector would turn out to be the guy who accidentally killed De la Cruz (in my defense, his face was visible for like a second, and human memory is fallible). I was also convinced that Ernesto was indeed Miguel’s great-great grandpa until the very last moment.

Before I write this, I just want to say how great of a movie I thought Coco was. It was funny, it was a heartfelt, it was everything. I almost cried at the ending, and if you haven’t seen it I recommend seeing it as soon as possible.

I like to think they got married in 1917. But possibly later in the year because I head canon Imelda having been pregnant at the altar. Coco would have probably been a spring baby born sometime in April. Because now is the fun part were I theorize when their potential birthdays are! (ugh, Pixar and Unkrich should just release their full profiles and a timeline already!)