#clone troops

Hello, I’d like to introduce you to my clone squad! I’m working on a name for them and have a poll up over on IG to help me decide!

Can’t decide between Griffin, Carrion, Vulture or Rook Squad...any thoughts?

I like clone troopers... i also like the weird alien animals of star wars

“SOMEBODY CATCH THOSE BABIES!” 

Between Jessie, Kix, Echo, Fives and Rex, they cannot seem to catch the wet, naked one-year-olds running around. 

“Where did they go?” Jessie asks, looking confused, until he hears a giggle. 

Current thoughts:

Did the 501st Legion have other Jedi that lead smaller divisions/groups of troops or were Anakin and Ahsoka it for the 501st?

Did any of the Service Corps get assigned to the GAR or were they kept as the Service Corps exclusively?

Short answer: Yes, sort of.

Longer answer: I definitely think that the fact that they were raised in much the same way as the clones made them predisposed not to argue. Plus having an enemy army breathing down your neck can make many otherwise idealist and liberal people very pragmatic, very sudden.

That said, though we never see it in any of the movies unfortunately, but in the old Extended Universe many Jedi objected to the use of the clone army. (This is one of the many things I wished he had spend even a little time on, though considering that he cut what was the beginning of the Rebellion movement subplot from Revenge of the Sith because he considered it unimportant I am not surprised.) And as the war wore on, more and more objected. Some to the point that they left the Order - permanently or temporarily - others opted for trying to improve the system from inside, change the conditions for the troops or try to keep as many of them alive through the war as they could.

Nor was the clones universally happy or compliant with their fate. Some merely grumbled in the ranks, others went awol. Some even went so far to fight for the Separatists.

You see, conditioning and indoctrination will only take things so far. Humans - and I would argue any organic being - isn’t a driod, we’re not programmable. (Yeah, General Hux need to learn a thing or two about how humans work.)

While humans are always, qua our genetics, inclined to agree with the group that we feel that we belong to - and it is extremely stressful for a human to even question group consensus, much less act against it - this does not render us mindless automatons. Indoctrination and conditioning is essentially the “normal” socialisation that all humans go through in our lives and that makes us capable of operating in society, taken to an extreme degree and this does not remove people’s intelligence, or ability to act.

What it does do is to make a person predisposed to think and act in certain ways. A Jedi would be more inclined to agree with the edicts of the Jedi Order, detach emotionally and obey the Council’s orders. A clone trooper would be predisposed to obey their Jedi generals and serve the Republic loyally. And so on.

So yes the Jedi, the ones that didn’t object outright and whom we unfortunately never saw in the movie, would definitely be more inclined to not question the whole mess with the clone army because it was so similar to their own lives. But also because the Council and the Senate - two entities that they have been conditioned their whole lives to respect and obey - okayed it. (The Senate and the Council appears to have been driven by political expediency - and Dark Side manipulations by Palpatine - and desperation respectively.)

I would apologise for the long post, but that would indicate that I was in any way sorry. Social psychology is a pet passion of mine and this is very much a subject that falls under that topic. As a result it irks me no end when people act as if indoctrination and conditioning makes people mindless automaton only capable of obedience, as if people who have been “brainwashed” is only innocent victims, when reality is far more complicated than that.

Chill joins us as we begin our coverage of The Clone Wars series on episodes 216 Cat and Mouse and 216 Hidden Enemy because they are the first events the series covers chronologically.  These take place directly before The Clone Wars Movie.  What did you think of the first sighting of Ventress?  Was Slick justified in his actions?

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  Objects of Interest 216 Cat and Mouse Senator Bail Organa General Anakin Skywalker General Obi-Wan Kenobi Admiral Wulff Yularen Admiral Trench

Battle of Malastare Narrows CT 1284 – Spark Hyena bombers Thermo shields*

116 Hidden Enemy Clones – Hawk, Rex, Slick, Jester, Sketch, Chopper Ventress General Loathsome R2-D2

SUMMARY

216 Cat and Mouse

Christophsis.  A planet under attack by Separatist forces.  Bale organa leads the republic forces on the planet after he was trapped planet side by a separatist blockade.  Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Admiral Wulf Yularan are tasked with breaking the blockade and delivering much needed supplies to the beleaguered republic forces on the planet.Admiral Yularen recognizes the emblem of the commander Trench.  Trench is a feared legendary leader and expert tactician.  Yularen Believes that they won’t be able to break the blockade in time.  Instead they decide to use a new stealth ship to deliver supplies to the forces on the planet. Obi-wan assigns Anakin to command the supply run and the admiral decides to tag along. Enroute to the planet Anakin realizes that the commander was the key to the blockade.  He decides to change the plan and use the stealth ship to take out the enemy command ship.  Commander Trench suspects something is coming and is on alert when the ship decloaks.  He is able to get his shields up in time to prevent the missiles from hitting him.  Anakin cloaks and evades the flurry of turbo laser fire that is sent their way.Obi-Wan reveals to Anakin that Trench has fought against stealth ships before and Anakin suspects that he did so by using missiles that tracked the magnetic signature of the ship.  Anakin tries to attack again, but he is unable to penetrate the shields.  Before he can cloak Trench drops his shields so he can fire the tracking missiles at them.  Skywalker is able to cloak but the missiles are locked on.  He then leads these missiles right back to trenches ship while its shields are down and they take out the command ship and break the blockade.

116 Hidden Enemy

The battle for Christophsis continues.  The republic ground forces, lead by Skywalker and Kenobi, have set an ambush for the approaching separatist forces.  Just before they are in range the enemy forces split up and take a different direction.  While trying to understand this Kenobi’s squad is attacked from behind by droids.  Anakin leads his squad to the rescue and leads them all to an evacuation point.  Once they are back to base they realize that they have a traitor amongst them.  Obi-Wan believes that they can figure out who it is by going behind enemy lines.  They leave Commander Cody and Captain Rex behind to investigate who the traitor could be.  After the Jedi have left Commander Cody discovers an open commlink in the command center.  The enemy spy knows the Jedi are leaving on the mission.  Seeing a figure in the shadows Cody and Rex give chase.  They don’t get a good look but they follow the spy  to the base’s mess hall.  The only people inside are fellow clones, brothers.  They return to the command center and try to warn the Jedi but the comm line is blocked on the other end.  Meanwhile, Obi-Wan and Anakin drive their speeders deep into enemy territory.  They notice a growing presence of droids following them.  Realizing It’s a Trap,  doesn’t dissuade them from continuing on.  They reach the Separatist command center and are greeted by Assaj Ventress upon entering.  After a bit of flirting between her and Obi-wan the duel begins.  Back at base Rex has R2-D2 go through the records to find out where the spy is sending their messages from.  The records lead back to platoon leader Slick’s barracks.  After talking to the men and a slip up from the spy they are able to determine that Slick is the trader.  He is able to get out of the barracks,  but Cody and Rex give chase.  Slick is able to get to the munitions depot and destroy it.  Rex and Cody are able to find him and capture him in the command center, but the damage is done.  Assaj Ventress tells Kenobi and Skywalker that they are too late and finally springs the trap revealing a droid army backing her.  Skywalker and Kenobi steal speeders from a pair of droids and return to base to find out about the traitor.  Slick is taken away as the Jedi and clones prepare for the battles to come.

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