#clone stuff

Ellie Phantom! One of only three halfas in the show, and, somehow, a female clone of a male gene donor.

Since Danny Phantom has managed to maintain a pretty robust fanbase since it ended in ~07 or so, there are already a bunch of good answers as to how a male teenager's genes could somehow lead to the creation of a 12 year old girl, one of the most popular being that Danny is, in fact, transgender, which would cause any genetic clone of his to pop out with an XX female phenotype by default.

Supposing that Danny is in fact an XY male, however, there are still a couple of options out there that could explain how his genetic code could be used to create a female variant of himself.

Because that's the thing, you know genes? Genes are strange, and when you add irresponsible mad scientists operating outside their specialty on top of ghost powers, things get even stranger.

And for the record, a lot of this is going to lean heavily on the idea that Vlad *is* operating outside his specialty here. Dude's an ectobiologist at best and a jack-of-all-trades ectoscientist at worst. Any understanding of how living (or half-living) things work is way outside his wheel house. Honestly, the man would be lucky if debilitating genetic anomalies were the only thing wrong with these kids.

Back on topic, Swyer's syndrome is interesting because its a disorder associated with the Y chromosome which leads to a near perfect female phenotype in the effected individual. Put simply, someone with Swyer's syndrome would present as physically female, despite being genetically male, a really stark example of how genotype (the information coded in your genes) doesn't always match phenotype (your physical makeup/how those genes present.)

While Swyer's syndrome doesn't seem to have one absolutely certain cause, what usually seems to happen is that early on in a fetus's development, the Y-chromosome does a whoopsie and fails to deliver its make-a-dude manual (*usually* the SRY gene) the way it's supposed to, so the body, lacking any instructions to the otherwise, just kind of defaults to a girl instead.

Physically, a person with Swyer's syndrome would be born with non-ambiguous genitalia, normal Fallopian tubes, and even a functioning womb (so long as an egg is donated from elsewhere). So far as I know, the only problem is that someone with this condition would have is that they don't have proper ovaries. instead, they just have "streak gonads", basically the reproductive equivalent of a confused shrug where you would normally expect the girl bits to go.

Those streak gonads are the primary way most individuals with Swyer's syndrome are normally found, as these things can't do stuff like "menstruate" or "puberty" the way actual ovaries would on their own. Completing a full female puberty and achieving menses requires administration of external hormones instead.

Streak gonads are also super cancerous, BTW. We're talking tumor-licious funtime levels of cancer here, which gives Swyer syndrome's otherwise subtle presentation something of a downside. Surgically removing those streak gonads is usually strongly recommended for long term health.

Interestingly, the lack of normal ovaries (and the puberty they play a part in,) has the potential to explain another oddity between Ellie and Danny: Namely, their apparent age gap.

While it's very possible Ellie's just younger than Danny because Vlad didn't have enough of his EZ-bake growth serum or whatever for her tube, what if she actually was 15 or even 16 years old, but doesn't really look it? What if she had something, such as the streak gonads associated with Swyer's syndrome, actively obstructing her ability to mature?

Ellie was lab grown, so the length of time she's been alive doesn't match her stage of growth, anyway. She'd have no way to tell for herself, and once Vlad realized he had another imperfect clone on his hands, I doubt he cared enough to bother with something as fiddly and time consuming as getting a proper measurement of her age. I can easily see him telling her "ur twelve," based off a quick glance at her looks and calling it a day.

If regular humans body temperature is average 36 Celsius degree clones could be around 38/40 C° degree? Like a human with a high fever? What if a clone get a fever? 45 C°? They surely become a very nice "hot water bottle" to sleep with during winter (eheh sorry) But this also mean they could prefer cold temperature instead of warm ones? Should be comforting for them.

You know; hot + hot = hotter BUT hot + cold = nice

Yes yes their blacks can help, you're right, their body glove can work as a "temperature adjuster" (didn't come to my mind the right word, sorry) and this lead us to my next question;

Does clones wear a double set of blacks under the armor? Hear me out: In Clone Wars we clearily see that they have one body glove, I guess as last surfare before the skin, it almost covers their whole necks as you can see from this picture gently offered by Fives and Jesse

But in Bad Batch season one episode one when they are in the Kaminoan brig they are in their blacks and the neck part look different from the blacks they wear with the armor, in fact when they wear the body glove with the armor the neck part look to have a "curlyed / waved" texture and when they are without armor the neck part just look flat with those two dots and the line and the abdomen is diferent too ...

(Thanks to Echo and Hunter for this pic)

(Hunter is a lil concerned about this revelation!)

If you noticed Echo's black look different from the others too!

look like he keept the black he recieved after being rescued from Skako, if you look at the adomen part just look the same, (yeah look at those abs) he just canged the chestplate, more protection save the life, Echo is smart.

and also his helemt look to be almost the same from the Bad Batch, he just modified it a bit.

(White with the two blue bands going vertically up on the forehead like his old helmet,

(Phase I)

(Phase II)

(Bad Batch)

and S2's blacks is also different, no more abs and he chosed warm colors

It's red, no more blacks, reds.

Side silly question;

How they can attach the shoulder pads in their blacks? (It is magnetic? Velcro maybe? Something else?) And their forearm pieces? They just slide it up and lock in some way? Idem for all the other parts, but the chest plate looks to be the difficul one. Did they wear it like a t-shirt? It can be splitted and attached? I need answers!!! Please comment with your version, I wanna read your theories!!!