Guys I made a YouTube video. It's really really not perfect, there's a fair few audio errors and I'm fairly certain you can hear the notification sound of @natsuneages messaging the Cheritz Discord at some point. But I made it.. You'll love it, right? :3
I couldnβt have done it without my friends ^^ @cherrychipheart @annbourbon @zealousfanprunewolf @tetru @kusukixcrystal
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β‘ Zen. It is said during Teo route that we dated Zen sometime ago. But this is weird for many people if they don't know or forgot about Zen saying that the last time he dated someone was 5 years ago. Mystic Messenger is set in 2016.
2016 - 5 = 2011
So Zen was our first boyfriend according to this tl. Probably will not remember us because of the Reset Theory. It does have some flaws. I admit. Because of his dreams, be might as well remember us. But what if he doesn't remember us at the very beginning? Like, what if by the time he remembers we're already in another route so he doesn't always gets the chance to be with us unless we're in his route?
In some routes like Jumin he does say to have a dream about a cage (in a call) and tried his best to warn us. Not to mention that he's always dreaming about something happening to us as MC basically the day after we enter a route. Which would obviously leads into this theory that he does remembers but only when it's too late so he instead chooses to let us be happy. TBH I feel like he's also trapped. In a different way but, he is.
* The Ssum seems to be set between the last months of 2011 and during 2012 extending its timeline till MC disappears in Another Story. Another Story is set 2 years before Mystic Messenger Casual Events.
2016 - 2 = 2014
This sets The Ssum In Between. From 2011 till the end of 2013. Perhaps beginning of 2014.
Around that time Rika disappears (commits "suicide" and "creates Mint Eye" but as I said before, she creates Mint Eye before the RFA. The Ssum is exposing how Mint Eye becomes a huge power behind the scenes during the first or second year of creating Mint Eye. And the beginnings of the RFA.) which also explains why Henri and June routes are so short. There's a lot of things going on in between.
This is around 6 months and a half. Let's say Teo Route starts between the lasts months of 2011 and by the time MOM is happening we're on Spring of 2012 (spring is often related to love season~)
β‘ During this route it is said that we do not know who Harry is. Right? Then the right route and the first one to play is Teo.
β‘ Jaehee, Mint Eye and even Elizabeth the 3rd are making their appearances every now and then.
β‘ The cult ( Mint Eye) it's say to be around but it's barely starting so that's why we see them trying to reclute some people. I guess we can say even Rika had a hard time starting. And that it's difficult to start lol sometimes we have the opportunity to make fun of it. But they tried to have Teo in their lines. And apparently some other characters.
β‘ You "accidentally" send him to Mint Eye after he gets a mail.
β‘ Dating June?
The reason I believe June is first than Harry. At least the first season, it's because we start strong now cause thanks to June, we meet more of Jumin's world. And we even have some pics with Rika and V.
Please take into account that what I've been saying it's only without playing his whole route yet. I have at most one or maybe 2 weeks of game in his route. But I saw a lot of spoilers and people saying that the timeline is ruined or stuff so in a way I wanted to talk about my theory since some interactions are really interesting there, and I feel we as players have another look onto it. I might be wrong.
It's quite obvious Jumin hasn't reach his peak years yet but there are already a lot of people calling him a promise~ nothing but the best for him. Why then he doesn't mentioned to us his brother? I have 2 theories. The most simple one is June is a difficult topic to touch considering South Korea approach to people who are different, crazy or out of norm. Like, just having a wheel chair or a baby sets you aside. Let's not talk about being always sick or mentally ill, much less neurodivergency. They don't fit and they are treated as nothing. And maybe MC is not gonna talk bad about his brother, but there was a lot of drama in every route, please take into account that even though we play the game (Mystic Messenger) there might be even more content we are unaware of. If anything, it's great to have more of this world. (I don't approve what Cheritz is doing about AI and as a company, but that is that and this is this~)
β‘ During June's Route, in an attempt to befriend his brother, June talks to Jumin and congratulates him on the charity work. Jumin explicitly says that the RFA is still a work in progress. That ties with the Cheritzverse timeline I'm working~
β‘ Close Encounter with The Angel
It just not that, but we also begin to get closer and closer to Mystic Messenger Events. Yes, I believe it's the same MC. We don't date the angel. But we do have a close encounter with them (as far as I know) Maybe it's here were the Bad Ending of Another Route takes place? (The one with MC reporting the incident to the police)
Something that confirmed this was Jumin Han saying during the wedding in June's Route (first 20 days~) that the RFA is still a work in progress. This sets the Timeline around the second year of my Mystic Messenger timeline. If you're curious~ check it out!
β‘ Date Harry. 200 Days.
After that close encounter, we meet Harry. We know him when he's quitting his career. He's also going to MOM but I really need to understand that part. I have yet to finish his route.
And then a couple of months pass by, we get information that might seem unimportant byt ties to other things:
β‘ Harry's parents were pretty much involved in laundering money through art. Keep in mind that MC is close to Harry and knows the whole thing. That puts her in danger. Harry's parents do seem the kind of people that make others disappear if you're in the way. And MC seems to have been meddling in a lot if things. Plus if y'all remember~ V father is also art related. It goes beyond that however, it's implied Saejoong Choi (In this moment future Prime Minister and father of the twins) is friends with V father and Chairman Han. I need to find the screenshots.
This would set a momentum for Another Story Part 1 Events to eventually take place. Just not right now lolol And would tie it to MM Deep Story. After Jumin's route, Seven is photographed. But since things take time, Another Story Part 2 takes place here~
However I think Jumin's route sets in motion what happens in Saeran's AE, in which events lead to capture Seven, and in an attempt to eliminate both twins. Saejoong Choi is truly despicable.
Actually, art seems to be a theme in both games. Or if we go deeper~ the 4 games. Which is one of the reasons I had to come back to all that since inside the community there are a lot of things like gossips, secrets and stories. Anyway, back to V's father, and V of course~ this connects them with:
Keep in mind this has not yet happened. I'm just tying up knots. We first need to have Ray kidnapping MC via playing a game lol
Anyways the whole thing makes me think that MC is either way younger than the characters in The Ssum. It is heavily implied to be the same age as Zen though. Which is why when doing the timeline I looked up for Zen's age and not Jumin. Zen is also one of the characters that are most mentioned throughout the Cheritzverse. And rven if she did time travelled, her age seems close to Zen. After all the spaceship is there. And there's a couple of choices you can come with where it implies that MC is indeed a time traveller. I had some notes where I used the calendar to make sure the timeline fit but I lost them lololol so I'll update this as soon as I can with those notes and the rest of my theoryβ‘ it's a promise!
So let's go back to Harry's route, ohh wait lol he breaks up with you so you start dating Henri.
β‘ Dating Henri: 30 days. A month.
I swear I had the whole thing planned on and I even had how many days approximately he would have but beats me. I lost the paper where I wrote my timeline. Anyways~ we now have someone who knows Jumin and doesn't like him because he doesn't know him. It is said that his route begins after June's first season. I took the time to see everything, date included and it does match! Besides, Jumin gets Elizabeth the 3rd during his route. And The Second Season of June's. There are some discrepancies but I'm working around them. I'll show you as soon as I can get my notes backβ‘
Notes:
* Jumin goes back to mainland for Elizabeth The 3rd.
* June falls ill around D-42 (June, Season 2)
* Henri is contacted by Jumin D-14 because of his cat (Henri Route, The Day The Camel's Back Broke)
* And goes to the island on D-15 (The Island needs a doctor)
This will give you a very good idea of how timelines work with these three characters (June, Jumin, Henri) and an approximate of how Rika works behind the scenes with Mint Eye. Especially important because this island holds many secrets. I'll talk about this later~ but for more info on the drugs Mint Eye is developing, please check my post on Unicorn Drugs.
Then during those days it becomes a situationship: June AND Henri. Remember how one of the options inside Harry's route talks about MC trying to live in a polyamory situation? It connects with Henri's route and one of its endings. So I don't think I'm on the wrong track. MC dates Henri right after Harry breakup with us.
β‘ We come back to Harry
(I have yet to play this but spoilers here and there let me know that around Day 245 or something?) However your discoveries keep playing a big role for you, so you tie everything up but eventually get kidnapped lol and who knows? Harry, Henri~ anyone!!! :'(( send help!
lololol
btw~ I have to confess lol
I haven't cheated on Harry. As soon as he asked me to be official, I stopped playing June's, Teo's and Henri's. As soon as he broke up with me, I took the storylines again lololol
So even the Angel cannot say anything about it :'(
My idea and first suspects are Harry's parents~
What do I mean with this? The entire game is set as a minesweeper lolol from drugs to art, cults, stalkers and embezzlement. Pick your poison~ you're gonna end in Mystic Messenger anywaysβ‘
β‘ The Angel comes back
I don't believe for one second that that guy is the Angel. Like, it doesn't fit at all cause we don't have interaction with anyone outside the chat. So I believe there's only one answer~
Finally Another Story (part 1)
It just not that, but we also begin to get closer and closer to Mystic Messenger Events. Yes, I believe it's the same MC. We don't date the angel. But we do have a close encounter with them (as far as I know) Maybe it's here were the Bad Ending of Another Route takes place? (The one with MC reporting the incident to the police)
I'm so excited to new route Ssum, June. He's cute and he looks really nice.
Teo is very strange to talk and Harry give anxiety with his food issues... omg Cheritz...
BUT HE'S VOICE ACTOR ACTUALLY WORKED TO CHERITZ DOING JIYEON'S VOICE FROM DANDELION!! I LOVE HIS WORK!!!!
I SWEAR IF THET F*CK WITH THIS VA I'LL SET FIRE ON CHERITZ!!! SSUM IS A LAME!!! I WISH THEY FORGET SSUM AND WORKED IN A GOOD GAME AND NOT ABANDONED THEIR OLD GAMES TOO!!!! I'm sorry for the rage.
... I wanted to get that out of the way first. Zen and Jieun obviously have physical similarities (especially when they were both younger and drawn with thick eyelashes), but letβs go beyond this. After all, Cheritz has a habit of making the love interests in their games have similarities to each other. In every game, you always have 5 love interests and 1 MC pursuing them because of reasons (V and Ray's routes broke this pattern, but the original MM only had 5 routes so...). There are more specific similarities like 707 and Red, Yeonho, and Yoosung, arguably Lance and Jumin, etc. Now, I think this goes deeper in the case of Zen and Jieun.
In another post, I talk about how there is a pattern with Cheritz boys who have red eyes, and it's that they all have powers. It is explicitly stated/heavily hinted they have this power, and I pointed out that Jieun and Zenβs power is basically the same. (Thereβs gonna be a lot of screenshots as points of evidence/to get my points across).
I donβt have the exact screenshot of Zen saying that his dreams predict the future, but Iβm sure he explicitly mentions this at some point in the game. If he didnβt, in my other post I mention 2 examples of him predicting the future. What am I suggesting exactly? Well, I think that Zen is not only royalty but also related to Jieun somehow.
Letβs start with what we know about Jieunβs power:
This is Jieunβs explanation from his route when confronted by Heejung. I have no idea where it is mentioned, but having red eyes is also another sign that you have these powers. (If someone knows where in the game this comes up let me know!). When he sees the future, wind flies everywhere and he uses it on purpose to see Heejungβs future specifically.
This is different from Zen, who only sees the future in dreams, and they come to him randomly. Though, I think Jieun does mention that he had to train his power in order to use it at will. If Zen was gifted this power by the gods, then doesnβt that mean that he is from Grass? And not only that, he has the potential to become king? If that is the case, why is he not there, and living a normal life?Β
To answer that question, we have to talk about Jihae/Eddison:
He is key to this theory. He is Jieunβs knight and his duty is to protect him. In Jieunβs route, he talks briefly about their past:
Jieun is talking about his own mother, and how she was a maid, while his father was presumably the king because Jieun still retains his prince status, despite his parents being from different classes.
He was separated from her after he was born, and the only way she can hear about Jieun is through Jihae (Jieun calls himΒ βEddieβ as a nickname).
Dark blue text is Jihae. Light blue is Jieun:
A lot to unpack here. This dialogue shows how Grass has a strict hierarchy. Aristocrats and commoners shouldnβt have relations. If they do, the child of such an affair is treated badly. Even though one of Jieunβs parents was of low birth, because he can see the future and has white hair, he is left alone. In fact, heβs still eligible to become king despite everything. Jihae was in the same boat, but because his hair was gray he was judged, called ugly, and a bad omen. In the dialogue above we see Jihae call himself filthy, a testament to how people treat him on the daily. Jieun recognizes how beautiful Jihae truly is, and that isnβt an exaggeration! When they come to Earth, Jihae is offered modeling jobs when heβs in Busan and starts a career out of it.
The 2nd screenshot shows him in one of his modeling gigs (Letβs take a second to appreciate him). Itβs not that the rabbits in Grass do not see that he is beautiful, but that his social status as a child of a commoner/outsider derides everything else. In fact, his good looks probably garner even more disgust. Heejung also considers Jieun to be beautiful, so it might also be a facet of being noble/royal to be beautiful by Earth's standards.
What does that have to do with Zen? Well:Β
1. Has gray hair.
2. Is considered extremely handsome, and is so popular that even Jumin has offered him to model for his company.
3. Has red eyes and can see the future in his dreams.Β
4. His healing ability! Magic is a thing in Grass so maybe that has something to do with it?
5. His ownΒ βfamilyβ have voiced how much Zen doesnβt look like them:
βWhy do we look so different?β I wonder why too Zenβs bro.
Poor Zen still gets bothered by people because of his looks. At least it's not as hostile as Jihaeβs experience, but itβs upsetting nonetheless.
All of this added up, and you can see where Iβm going with this. Zen could be a prince, one parent royal, and the other a commoner/outsider. This gives him gray hair, but he is still born with the power of precognition, making him eligible to become king. Who knows if his power would outweigh his status? It might not, if he ended up on Earth in the end.
Jieun stated that once every 3 generations, a divine child like himself is born. Zen and Jieun are clearly not the same people since their hair color is different.
I believe Zen is either a prince:
1. 3 generations after Jieun.
2. At some point in Grassβ history was a prince, whether in the past or the future.
The reason I say this is because of the timeline. Dandelion and Nameless have very explicit dates for when and where it takes place. Most of the time both take place on Earth in South Korea between the years 2012-2013. But Mystic Messenger is a big question mark. D & Nβs years correspond with the year the games were released in. If we follow that pattern, then Mystic Messenger would have happened in 2016. The thing is, that is not confirmed in-game, and is just speculation. So, we can give the timeline some leeway.Β
There are 3 possibilities for how Zen got sent to Earth:
1. Zen made a desperate wish to leave Grass: This is the sad option. Based on how we see Jihae be treated, especially if you get deeper into his backstory, Zen could have been neglected/verbally abused/etc. for his hair. The Wizard in Dandelion can grant any wish you desire, as long as that wish is desperate. If Zen arrived on Earth as a child, then the implications of that are even worse. In exchange for a wish, your memories relating to that wish are taken away. Perhaps his memories of Grass was the price and thatβs why he doesnβt remember anything. The earliest memory we see in-game was from when he was studying with his older brother as a child when he was 7 years old.
2. SorcerersΒ from the royal family: TheyΒ sent him to Earth as a child. I bring this up because, in Dandelion, travel between the planets was seen as impossible. Of course, with the exception of The Wizard and making a desperate wish. He was the one who brought the rabbit and cat boys to Earth, after all. BUTΒ THEN, Jieun came in.
At the end of Jieunβs route, he gets separated from Heejung and has to go back to Grass. 3 years after, Heejung is summoned to Grass by a group of sorcerers Jieun got together (Whether they are actually other wizards is up for debate). Jieun overcame the odds. This is why I suggested that Zen is a prince 3 generations after Jieun. Perhaps this spell was tweaked to send Zen to Earth instead of the other way around.Β Going back to what I said before, if Zen is a prince 3 generations after Jieun, and got sent to Earth in South Korea specifically, then it can make sense why it happened. 3 generations down the line I think records would remain of a former king (Jieun) summoning a woman (Heejung) from another planet, and maybe Jieun documented his stay in South Korea. A portal dropping Zen in South Korea of all places on the planet could make sense from this angle. Maybe he had some protection spells cast on him (his random fast healing?) and maybe even his human family has been bewitched to believe he is their birth son? Maybe some member of the royal family orchestrated all of this for Zenβs sake, so that he can live a life free of judgment (didnβt quite work out but still). This is mostly conjecture though.
The details of how all of that would happen are up in the air.
3. Zen was unwillingly sent to Earth/MM universe(?) and is now trapped: I think this one needs an entire post by itself. This has to do with Saeyoung being a wizard and April Foolβs DLC stuff. This one is the one I believe in the most.
Nonetheless, I have brought up all the points why I believe Zen could be a prince from Grass. (Also lol Zen hated Jumin for being a trust-fund kid, but he could be a divine child blessed by god and is a bunny prince lmaoooo).
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* This is only to show the dates and the way all this is linked (the information is already established through these games, so I'm only keeping track of what they say but not if the game is in a different Timeline, or Space, for more on this topic please check out my Beyond The Planets post.
If anyone has different ideas, is welcomed to share those by reblogging it. Screenshots and evidence will be necessary to be credited.
2006 -
2008 ~ Before Dandelion Events
β‘ Heejung moves from Seoul to Busan
2009
2010 ~ Beginnings of Mint Eye
β‘ Sally (Rika's dog) dies here or beginnings of 2011
β‘ During June's Route (set around 2013) is said the RFA is still a work in progress. But we know Mint Eye started before. While this is a little theory I have... what if Mint Eye starts when you're dating Zen (remember Rika was a fan of Zen? Just saying~)
β‘ It's usually said that the first years of any kind of project are hard~ and we see Mint Eye believers starting to gather power throughout The Ssum. Which is why I have settled Mint Eye beginnings around this time. Still need to decide the actual date though.
β‘ Check the first year of Mystic Messenger Timeline. Come back.
β‘ Possible beginnings of 2011 or lasts months of 2010 but the Dr Cus was kidnapped. According to JJ, 2 years before~ although considering Henri's timeline, it's not necessarily here. But from here till the end of 2011 at least. If you can find more clues~ it'd be very helpful. You're gonna be credited ofc.
2011 ~ 2013: The Ssum & Nameless (In Between)
* I believe The Ssum events start a bit before The Ssum.
2011
β‘ It is said during Mystic Messenger that Zen has been without a girlfriend for 5 years. And to add to it: The Ssum (Teo route) says that Zen was your ex boyfriend.
If we take Mystic Messenger and The Ssum work together, Zen definitely was our ex boyfriend before Mystic Messenger. For those who don't understand why he doesn't remember us, it's implied during Epiphany (Zen's DLC, April Fools Day) that he was trapped inside.
Then several chat rooms and calls during Casual and Deep Story suggest that Zen does remember but only certain parts and that he only remembers everything by the time MC has picked a LI which makes it impossible for him to butt in, so instead he tries to steer things in the right direction for us to have a happy ending. An example of this~ a call with Zen before things started to get serious with Jumin, said that he dreamt of us being trapped inside a cage.
β‘ Possible beginnings of 2011 or lasts months of 2010 but the Dr Cus was kidnapped. According to JJ, 2 years before~ although considering Henri's timeline, it's not necessarily here. But from here till the end of 2011 at least. If you can find more clues~ it'd be very helpful. You're gonna be credited ofc.
2011 ~ 2012 Dandelion Events
β‘ Heejung's father escaped with an artist, and young woman. Dandelion.
β‘ Rika meets V.
β‘ Unsure if it's during 2011 or 2012 but~ Rika and V engagement.
β‘ Nameless Events
2013 ~ The Ssum Events
Check The Ssum Timeline
β‘ Jaehee barely started to work for Jumin during this TL (2013, around June or July) and Elizabeth the 3rd escaped for Teo to take care of her during one day. I believe that even though it's implied that Jumin Han was the owner, he was not yet officially the owner of the cat.
Theory: However, the more I think about these events, this escape seems to be part of some training Elizabeth the 3rd received from part of Mint Eye. I saw a post here on Tumblr (wish I could find it) saying that Elizabeth the 3rd might have been abducted and lured with a whistle. But what if in addition to that, she was trained too? While it's difficult to train cats, it's not entirely impossible. I think part of it also explains why she was so easy to capture if she bonded with Saeran and Rika first.
* Teo Route starts at least some months or weeks before we see Jaehee, this settles the story beginnings of 2013. Remember Jaehee said she had been working for Jumin 2 years and a half in 2016. For continuity issues, I would settle Teo Route around November or December 2012 and Jaehee something around beginnings of 2013, giving enough time to Harry's route. June and Henri need to be play together:
Teo entire route [beginnings of 2013]
Harry till day 200 [2013 till 2014]
June season 1 (30 days) ~ Harry Day 230
Henri s1 and June s2 ft. Harry Day 260
*There might be a time where you're dating Teo and Harry at the same time, even the options suggest it as a choice. This can be why the Angel confronts you about it.
β‘ Mint Eye makes several attempts to drag Teo.
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β‘ During June's Route (set around 2013) is said the RFA is still a work in progress. But we know Mint Eye started before.
Yes. I put the same text twice. It helps to create an idea of when things are happening.
β‘ Slightly mentioning Unicorn Drugs because I'm working on tracking the drugs they give to us or to the LIs.
Theories on why probably June's wasn't mentioned before:
1. His condition and S.Korean society around these topics. Best example of this? Rika and Saeran. Not confirmed but implied during June's Route, when he goes to the wedding.
2. Possible death.
3. On a more cheerful note, he probably is still alive but people don't talk about him because of how that affects Jumin Han and Chairman Han reputation. And of course, the C&R. Confirmed: June is an illegitimate son. Carolyn had it out of wedlock, had an affair with June's dad. And went to Chairman Han to ask for help. The nerve of this woman π³
Take it with grain of salt but ^^;; June's father was a singer?
β‘ Heejung's father escaped with an artist, and young woman. Dandelion.
β‘ Carolyn (Jumin's and June's mom) was said to be an artist, singer? She had an affair with June's father, abandoned Jumin's and Chairman Han, tried to make June look like he was Chairman's son but ended up divorcing him and marrying June's dad. The Ssum.
In the end I don't think any of these events are mutually exclusive but inclusive. And if things don't make sense yet, don't worry, I'm covering a relationship chart soon~
So, Harry knows Seven. June and Jumin are half-brothers. June and Henri know each other. Henri hates Jumin but works for him lol and Henri's dad works for Chairman Han. Yeah all this is connected in a way or another.
To understand why I'm talking about Another Story as Part 1 and Part 2~ you guys need to check out my Mystic Messenger TL.
BTW~ I'm suspecting a connection between Harry (since his parents are basically bullies and kind of gangsta and laundering money through art~) V, Jumin and Rika. All through The Muse collection.
Like I said to @cherrychipheart once, looking at the background of Dandelion, I could see some V pictures behind the gallery where Heejung works. So this is a personal theory I have but~ I believe that The Ssum is the story of MC before disappearing, cause she's being captured for Mint Eye. TBH after playing Dandelion I have trust issues with every character within the Cheritzverse lol
And I have yet to finish it β₯οΉβ₯
There's a full moon behind Saeran and MC pic too~
How come the Angel has chosen the moon as his symbol? And why Harry placed a moon on his profile picture right after we broke up? Does anyone remembers the Angel call before that day? He was basically calling us and being all scary in a similar style to Unknown. Does any of this sounds more like The Wizard than Unknown? Because it does to me. But that's for another topic. Yes, I'm already onto "The Angel" and working full time on it.
2016 ~ Mystic Messenger Timeline
β‘ 2016 includes Casual and Deep as whole. But remember the events in Jumin's trigger Saeran's AE and Saeyoung's route too. That proposal to MC was too public for the twins.
* Because of time travel, Mystic Messenger is a non linear story, which means you need to pick upon clues here and there to understand where the timeline goes. The other games have a similar issue but not as pronounced as this.
*Notes: I already ran out of space for images so if any other thing or piece of information is dropped, I'll create a second part, however this should cover the basics. Also, if additional info comes up~ i'll update it!
This time I'm bringing something much needed for all those who play inside the Cheritzverse. A relationship chart with explanations included.
Some of these are things that are included in a single line sometimes in a different game or a thing that apparently holds no connection but it does have one. It took me some time to find these and there are so many that I'm gonna create several posts explaining these with proof/screenshots included if the collages are not enough. But for now~ the basics.
Remember that this might contain spoilers from all the games: Dandelion, Nameless, Mystic Messenger & The Ssum.
So before we enter this whole mess, one of the things that has been incredibly helpful to do this~ Inheritors K-Drama. But not just that, also The Burning Sun Case, The Tragedy of the Sewol Ferry. Among other things. They all have been put in the links, they have nothing to do with this Relationship Chart however they do help to understand how sometimes the S.Korean society works. I will not quote in them in detail because I need the space to work on the relationship chart. They might get a little mention though. But if you go to those and watch them all, you're gonna find similarities. Thank you for your understanding.
C&R Group:
Han Family
* Juyoung Han. Also known as Chairman Han. CEO of C&R Group. Has been married at least 3 or 4 times. According to Jumin, most of these times have been with artists. However has had several affairs with Jumin's secretaries and even with his own secretaries.
For example: Lily Vanderwoodsen in Gossip Girl has also several marriages in her past.
Other notes: Chairman Seo plays golf with Chairman Han. I'm not entirely sure of how this connects but when I asked about Dr Cheon and other things inside The Ssum, PiuPiu said that I'm good at remembering insignificant details. So it does hold some meaning behind. As I put inside the relationship chart~ I believe Chairman Seo, Chairman Han and possibly Dr Cheon's father, hang all together when they play golf.
This goes mentioned during Mystic Messenger (Jumin's Route) and The Ssum (Henri's, June's & Harry's)
* Carolyn. Divorced from Chairman Han. Had a son: Jumin. Her second marriage was with Hyunsik. Had a son: June.
Other notes: Was a singer. Possibly the reason Heejung's father cheated on. Although that we know~ she has no daughters. It's possible that she just had an affair without getting pregnant here. Owns:
β» Carolyn's House (seen in Jumin's DLC)
* Jumin Han
Jumin Han owns:
β» Jumin's Island (Seen in June's, Henri's during The Ssum, and Ray's/Saeran's during Another Story in Mystic Messenger)
β» An entire building that bought to his father.
β» At least one yatch!?
β» An helicopter
β» A private jet
β» Cherry Farm Healing Center. Hospital?
Seems, although not fully clear if, the Cherry Farm Healing Center is not an hospital. But it does operates as part of something else. A mix of winery, center to heal people and relax old and rich people. Jumin goes there often to relax and takes Elizabeth the 3rd with him.
I can't put it here exactly in images (already out of space~) so here:
Henri's Grandfather
β β
Julia --- Henri's Dad Uncle Tony <β‘> Aunt
β
* Henri's brother
* Henri
*It's said that Henri's dad works for Chairman Han as a personal doctor. While Uncle Tony inherited everything, including the hospital. "Runs a large scale general hospital"
* Henri's Aunt has vetoed Julia on The Church Comitee, as she is the one in charge.
* I need to pay more attention to this next time I read Rika DLC but it seems Rika adoptive parents were also similar to Henri's: Her mother worked in the church comittee (?) and it's ssaid that Yoosung's uncle (Rika's adoptive father) was someone important in the hospital and the couple were really wealthy. Which means Yoosung would be in a similar position to Henri's or somewhat lower but not entirely jobless, without money or without connections.
* Art Gallery (Owned by Harry, his mom controlled it until Day 221 or 222 of The Ssum when it's said she doesn't controls it anymore and it's separating from Harry's father.)
* It's said Harry is a VVVIP. Which implies it's on a similar situation to Jumin's. But unlinke Jumin, he doesn't bother with such responsibilities. A true chaebol.
* Harry owns at least the apartment, the house he created for MC. And The Gallery. That we know of course, but it's implied much more. No wonder he remains under the mask.
β» Dr. Terry Cheon. Engaged with Harry. Owns 20% of company stocks.
β» Mother of Dr. Terry Cheon, Executive of Yuhan's Corp.
β‘ M. Hospital
β» Father of Dr. Terry Cheon, Dean of the M. Hospital.
β Something that stuck in my head was Rachel's words in the k-drama Inheritors/The Heirs. She says that these type of arrangements, I mean~ these marriages are basically a fusion of the companies and that there are millions involved so it's not that easy to get out of these, which can explain the pressure on Harry, Terry and the rest of people.
Which reminds me of how in June's and Henri's routes, Carolyn keeps trying to make a good arrangement for Jumin. Only for him to marry MCβ‘ so cute!! Β».Β«
Also explains why V's father and Chairman Han were saying that Rika was not good for V. (let's put aside the cult lolol cause they didn't know?)
* Family of artists. From Nameless and Mystic Messenger. V's mom was a violinist. V's is a businessman who apparently first was said to be an artist (?) Remarried after his first wife passed.
* The Boss? ~ I doubt this is the final boss. Look at Quantico series or any other spy/intelligence series. It's definitely Seven's boss but not The Boss
* JJ ~ although it's not said here, Seven mentioned a couple of times that he (Seven) has a lot of wigs and stuff for cosplay/spy missions. If this is added to tge fact that JJ says to be a hairdresser, using some weird spray for dying June's hair, the several lies, fake file, and suspicious gadgets that interfere with PiuPiu. We can say that he is from The Agency, he is aware of aliens, and of The Ssum Project. PiuPiu doesn't like JJ.
Saeyoung Choi ~ Alias Seven. Luciel Choi. Made contact with aliens.
* PiuPiu ~ Funnily enough, all LI have expressed their discontent and distrust towards PiuPiu more than once.
* PiuPiu ver1 ~ during Harry's route. After PiuPiu gets sick.
* PiPi ~ suspected of going to Seven.
Edited. Thanks to @thessumbluebirdnotes for the input here:
PiPi could go to Teo and not Seven. The Cancer 199.207.07 it's Teo's Zodiac Sign and B-Day. PiPi left on D-99 (Harry's Route)
Teo's B-Day: July 07, 1992.
If you check D-99 of Teo's Route, his phone starts acting up. And there was a pink feather logo that shows up when he takes a selfie. A possible sign of his PiuPiu coming~
* Dr Cus Monsier ~ Apparently kidnapped. According to JJ during Henri's route. During a chatroom Jumin says he was creating a machine to make people forget their memories. Seven says that he was creating a time machine. Seems these two events hold some connection towards JJ and Dr Cus Monsier but so far it's all speculations.
β» Rika's adoptive mom. (implied during Rika's DLC), also, holds a connection and a similar pattern to Henri's uncle. In this case by Yoosung's uncle being connected to the hospital.
β One thing that helped me a lot here was The Gilded Age. Though it's not Korean, it's not really different from tge way other societies behave, banning members and doing each other this kind of stuff~ otherwise it wouldn't be so depicted in different cultures, right?
The name is not said, however it's deeply implied that only the top of the top can be inside.
Possible name: Business Women Who Lead the Future?
* Julia (Henri's mom) β shunned
* Eloise's mom
* Carolyn (Jumin's mom) β shunned
It's said Minha's mom doesn't bother with these things. But apparently Juyuong Han does. So MC would be expected to step into this too. Even more after Carolyn falls down. Henri calls it a jungle.
β» Believer Number C276 ~ possibly Teo? It is said that Rika was personally assisting the ceremony to make this believer part of Mint Eye. And deeply implied that it's not something that usually happens.
* I didn't put it here as links cause it would take me forever to gather everything but another perfect example is how the case of P.Diddy, relates to Epstain, Woody Allen, Ghislaine Maxwell, Prince Andrew and Harvey Weinstein cases. In these circles is more possible that everything connects in one way or another.