#capets

And how related are they to the historical people?

I think in the US people generally it wouldn’t stand out unless maybe they ran into someone who’s a real history buff. I’d like to think Philip thinks it’s cool factoid and might brag about it a bit but he’d probably quickly realize as a youngster that this is, as Geoff says, “le cringe” and just kind of not draw attention to it. Plantz as a name isn’t especially common in my experience but it’s a real name.

For how they relate to the historical people, my general loose idea is that the story takes place in the Real World, so the Actual Real Historical People Did Exist and affect the past, fictional works were made, etc just like normal. For example, this is a joke doodle but here’s Valérie watching The Lion in Winter . Also just by virtue of being european/white people descent, I think a huge percentage of that population has at least SOME descendancy from that family. i mean all the US presidents do except van buren)

For Plantz family history my idea is that Henry’s paternal family is from Maine (the state) and has some Acadian French heritage, but he’s very Americanized, his mum Matilda is from New England (haha get it) but has lived abroad in Germany and thus has a very un-American cultural approach to life. (My concept for her is that she is very strict and religious, disciplined her children a lot to contrast with grandpa geoff’s permissiveness, but also very butch and independent. Babby Henry getting a lot of strange mixed messages in his rearing lol). Eleanor is from France but moved around a lot when she was younger before settling down. The kids are very cringeburgers but she raises them to know cultural basics.

The Capets are just kind of more ur normal French but live in the US but often travel back and forth. I feel i don’t incorporate it AS much into the story bc most of it just takes place locally and over a short period of time but that’s the background I have for them. (I do feel like my concept of Wasian Adele has been amusingly growing on me but it doesn’t really impact as much I feel lol)

Chivalric vs. Sacral Kingship

Wanted to work on doing those Xmas ornament printables things so of course I started with these two. Since it’s Chibi I kind of wanted to make their cartoony designs as inspired by their respective historical reputations…Richard gets his constant soldier getup with the plain maille, and Philippe with St. Denis and the Lily that appears on the Capetian seals. In my designs I obviously have my preferences in how I draw them but I do like having at least some basis of inspiration to work off, in this case their seals.

I also have a version of Richard with his funky transitional crest helm, also inspired by the seal.

On this day in history in 1165, King Philippe II of France was born in Gonesse. The son of King Louis VII and his third wife, Adela of Champagne, he was originally nicknamed Dieudonné (“God-given”) because his father was 45 years old, and many feared that Louis would die without producing a male heir to the Capetian throne. That King Louis VII finally sired a son at such an advanced age was considered a miracle and a blessing from God.

On the day after his birth, Philippe was baptized in the castle chapel of St-Michel-de-la-Place. The infant’s great-grandfather, King Philippe I, had been the first monarch in Western Europe to bear this rare, even exotic, name. Known as Philippe the Amorous, Philippe I was King of the Franks from 1060 until his murder in 1108. His unusual name had been introduced into the Capetian family by Anne of Kiev (also known by the names: Anna Yaroslavna, Anna of Rus, and Agnes) who was the Russian-born mother of King Philippe I.

Prior to the birth of his son, Louis VII had fathered four daughters with his first two wives. His first wife was Eleanor of Aquitaine, and their daughter were: Marie (1145 – 1198, who married Henry I, Count of Champagne) and Alix (1151 – ca. 1197, who married Theobald V Count of Blois).

When Louis’ first marriage failed to produce any sons, he arranged to annul it. This left him free to marry Constance of Castile. This marriage also produced two daughters: Margaret (1158 – 1197) and Alys (1160 – ca. 1220). Sadly, the birth of Alys resulted in Constance’s death.

Increasingly desperate for a son, Louis married Adela on the 18th of October 1160, a few weeks after the death of his previous wife, Constance, in childbirth. Many considered this too soon after Constance’s death.

Frustrating the hopes of the king and his nobles, Louis’ third marriage didn’t produce any issue for the next five years. Concern that Louis might die without a male heir grew and intensified as Louis approached his mid-forties.

The lack of a son threatened the future of France and the Capetian dynasty, but by God’s grace, the long-awaited Philippe finally arrived to great rejoicing. According to contemporary sources, Adela of Champagne wept with joy when she learned that her child was the long-awaited, much anticipated male heir to the Capetian throne. Louis VII received word that his wife had given birth to a son while he was attending Matins, although the birth had happened at eleven o’clock the previous evening. The happy parents were sure that it was a good omen for the country.

Adela would eventually give birth to a second child, another daughter, Agnes (1171 – ca. 1204).

A curiosity, today.

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