#bee's thoughts

Why lie? I hear you ask.

:3c

Because it was a trick to get Danny to do something for him while also attempting to endear himself/emotionally manipulate Danny

My theory:

Vlad Lied about “you had no where to go but to me -a guy you hate- after your family died”

This is Unequivocally false!!

Maddie had a sister who owns a farm in the country side!! Wouldn’t Danny go there to be with his last living family member? Unless Vlad Did something to stop that from happening and forced Danny to stay with him instead...

Which sounds VERY Vlad.

He then lied about Danny asking him to “rip the humanity out” so he wouldn’t feel hurt anymore. This next part I’m not sure about but I think Vlad did/said something along the lines of threatening to do that and Danny, emotionally unstable, reacted by Being the one to rip out Vlad’s humanity instead.

Also the reason Vlad survived more or less intact is because he’s less ghost than human unlike Danny who is a perfect split but that’s just more head-canon and not necessarily evidence

Obv they would have fought, but Vlad would have been severely weakened, and Danny would have been able to absorb Vlad’s ghost side, leading to the creation of Dan (the ghostly combination of Danny and Vlad)

My next point!! The EVIDENCE

See, when Dan transforms into Danny there are a number of things that Don’t match up with Vlad’s story

For one (1): why does his transformation look exactly the same as it always does when phantom turns back into his human form? white rings and all? We’ve seen other characters shapeshift and disguise themselves as human and it NEVER looks like that!!

For two! (2): How are his eyes BLUE!!! Every shapeshifting ghost that has pretended to be human in this show had their eyes stay the same color from their ghost form!! Even when possessing people!!

For three!! (3): This one isn’t as strong because the fenton’s tend to be kinda useless in canon in general but  How would none of the Fenton’s tech or what not, failed to pick up a full ghost masquerading as their son? Unless it was the usual amount of half-ghost human form bs

Also! It makes sense, that Dan’s form is different if he absorbed a ghost as powerful as Plasmius. It also makes sense, that his human half wouldn’t change at all since it’s a physical body and that’s not how humans work. This is why he’s Dark!Danny and why the focus seems to be on Danny and his possible future mistakes.

This also ties into (and is strong evidence for)  my theory that Danny wouldn’t age after he died/became half ghost which is why his human form is still the exact same!!!!!!

Why did Vlad lie about it?

Simple! He wanted Danny to change the past, without his ghost powers his life fell to ruins. He was unable to manipulate the world to his whims and he was left to rot. -This young, naive Danny that has a soured opinion of Vlad but not a pure genuine hatred, not yet, is his ticket to getting back the life he had

So he emotionally manipulates him, plays up the “I was only trying to help I care So much about you oh woe is me” angle

And then demonizes/guilts Danny: “you murdered your own human half!” So that when Danny went back to his own timeline and fixed everything, the Vlad of the past would get a bit more lenience and be able to further worm his way into Danny’s life.

After all, what better way to convince someone to keep giving you a chance if you’ve already “redeemed yourself” once?

That’s my Ted talk for the day.

Everyone talks about TUE Vlad being redeemed but I call BS