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My Rambles on the Bronn + Hound scene. (warning: long...?)
Welp
Time to ramble about things people donât care about. In regards to the Sandor and Bronn scene in the 9th episode, I was surprised(and then not really) at the initial clash between the two. Iâm biased considering I roleplayed the scenario beforehand and I know itâs not always fun rping people at odds. So maybe thatâs why when i rp Bronn, he got along with the Hound without a hitch. Though ultimately they came to a truce of some sort, I couldnât help wondering why the clash happened between characters that are, as the writers put it, fundamentally similar.
   Fundamentally theyâre both battle veterans who are very comfortable with murder and couldnât give two shits about honour and knights. I havenât given a huge amount of thoughts about Sandor Cleganeâs character, but I think Iâm somewhat informed of more than his seemingly exterior being. And sometimes, Iâm not even sure I really get Bronn, but Bronn might seem like a dude Sandor would be alright with, hence the idea of them being drinking buds. So, why the clash?
I have a small part I may want to add in a separate post, but I think this is enough for now. I can't compare to the many amazing writers I've read who do this sort of this wonderfully, but I hope this is clear and my weird blog layout didn't make it too hard to read. My tenses are all over the place, I'm sorry.
âYou think youâre a hard man.â
   In one of the behind the scene/episode short clip sort of thing, DB Weiss discussed the brothel scene. He describes Bronn as a âgood time kinda of a guyâ, someone you would want to hang out with and whoâs lots of fun(assume you werenât his target). While Sandor is a more quiet and intimidating type of dude; âdefinitely not a whole lot of funâ. In short, Bronn could be your friendly bro, while all you can hope for with Sandor is for him not to kill you(Sansa excluded) The Hound states many times how little he cares for other peopleâs opinion(donât quote me on this, this is just what I remembered), but I think heâs confused on why these men like Bronn.
âYou think youâre a hard man.â
âOhoho, I know it.â
*Men quietly laugh-> Sandor side-eyes them*
Bronn, for all his low-born crass nature, manages to win the respect of this large group of men(theyâre drunk, but yâknow), but not just through intimidation. He has charisma**, heâs likeable, and itâs really hard to say considering I donât know the exact type of people in the City watch[theyâre motivated by money, yet who is to say they lack loyalty?], but those men may very well be willing to die for Bronn. The Hound definitely has the respect of many, probably everyone in that room, but he isnât well-liked or.. any type of liked; heâs feared. Thereâs an obvious tension when he walks in the brothel and itâs a stark contrast to the more light-hearted scene beforehand(??? as light hearted as GOT gets, with Bronn talking about how he broke his nose while undressing a woman)
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   Sandor doesnât care about being liked, but yeah, it probably seems strange to him. That some sellsword who likes to kill, drink and fuck, just as much as he does,  seems adored by others. Those should be despicable characteristics. People shouldnât like people who enjoy killing. Sandor knows this and he doesnât bother to hide it; he thinks heâs a bad person and heâs fine with it. He thinks Bronnâs a bad person and knows Bronn knows it, but people still like him anyways? So maybe he thinks, look at this fucker, just as much as scum as I am, but trying to hide it through crass humour and laughs. The way Bronn calls him out later in the scene essentially paints Sandor to be the âbad manâ and Sandorâs really like, âwut youâre no different than me why do people like youâ
So maybe Sandor initially thinks Bronn is hiding his true nature, therefore ends up calling Bronn out: âYouâre just like meâ. He threatens him because Sandor hates liars, stemming back to why he hates knights; they prance around spouting out honour bullshit, but he knows his brotherâs cruel nature and his brother is a knight. Knights are like a mummerâs farce, an illusion to their true nature. Â Though I may have just over complicate a simple concept of clashing personalities. Fun versus... not so fun.
**I think this is a interesting quality for someone like Bronn to have. Iâve wondered why no one has managed to slit his throat in an attempt to gain his position.
 âAnd all you want, is put one of us in the cold ground.â
Bronn isnât completely guilt-free though. Heâs not some kid in the playground getting picked on by a bigger bully. It may seem like Sandorâs just looking for a fight, but someone brought up that Bronnâs looking for one as well. I donât agree, but I could see how it seems that way. Bronn is the one who initiates the conversation, possibly to be friendly, but really? He must know the Hound doesnât care for courtesies. He calls him out and then begins the staring contest. A lesser man, or some would argue a smarter man, would have backed down, but the weird sexual tension aside, Â Bronn basically looks at him with a grin basically âlol what, iâm not scared of you, dawgâ. Oh, but Bronn was drinking; heâs drunk.
   Aye, Bronn drinks a lot, but never so heavily itâll impaired him judgement. I know, I know. How the fuck would you know, person on the internet? Well, it seems practical. Itâs the night before the war, who would shit-face themselves so they would wake up gods know when to defend Kingâs Landing. And Bronn.. he knows heâs not a good guy, he knows he has enemies and he knows he canât rely on others to save him. So, why would he drink so much he might end up making a stupid decision? It wouldnât be worth the risk, it wouldnât be worth his life. Therefore he doesnât. Heâs well aware of his limits. I canât pull out a passage at the moment, but I remember in ACOK where Tyrion described the âpartyâ between Bronn and his men. I canât remember how drunk the sellswords were, maybe drunk enough to make my previous argument invalid(but at the same time, not). They were all joking loudly about becoming knights, all of them except Bronn, who just smiled knowingly. Well, maybe heâs a quiet drunk, maybe he was just really happy. But I think it was to illustrate the careful person Bronn is. Bronnâs too careful to get completely plastered. Another passage in ASOS, I believe, where Bronn ignores a bunch of handmaidens in favor of watching some new recruits sword fighting. I know, whoop-dee-doo right? Not like he deserves a medal for not leering at ever woman that walks by. Maybe over analyzing that passage, but it shows whatever desires Bronn has, he doesnât let it get the best of him. He doesnât let it get in the way of living.
   Okay, a bit of a derailment. So Bronnâs not super drunk was my point. Bronnâs tipsy at most, but still not stupid. Engaging in a pissing contest with the Hound is generally considered a stupid idea, but he does it anyways. He not only continues the conversation, but as I mentioned before, basically calls Sandor out as a bad guy. âAnd all you want, is put one of us in the cold ground.â
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I always wondered how much pride Bronn had, I donât see it really discuss/mentioned much in the books/show, though we see hints of it. âIâm not your toady, and Iâm not your friend.â âDonât go looking for me to bend the knee and mâlord you every time you take a shit.â Heâll kill, no problem, but can you see him begging for his life? But I wonât go into that.
So, pissing contest, stupid, why Bronn? Is it a pride thing? Did Bronn want to give the message âhey iâm not afraid of youâ? Iâve seen discussions on who would win in a fight Bronn vs Sandor. I donât have a strong opinion, but there are a lot of people who say the Hound. Iâm not saying Bronn would win, in fact I think heâll lose a good fight(did you see Sandor clean cut a man in two!?!?!?). Who would win isnât really the point.
âAnd quicker, eh?â
Bronn isnât stupid(repetitive, i know. I have a strong opinion on that), he knows Sandor isnât Ser Vardis weight down by armour gilded with honour and noble to the fault. He may have never even seen Sandor fight to know his fighting style. Bronn wouldnât go into a fight he didnât think heâll win and itâs very debatable he could win this one. The shots of him holding his knife the rest of the scene after Sandor becomes a threat shows what little chances heâll take. So Bronn couldnât have been initially looking for a physically fight. Maybe just a verbal spat? Or maybe this just a time where he couldnât learn to keep his mouth shut and the wrong things slipped out? Maybe he felt his leadership presence was threatened by the more imposing Sandor?(He can't very well show cowardice to the men heâs leading) I know iâm throwing a lot of questions around, but Iâm trying to give a nice round of possibilities. The more I wondered, the more I thought Bronn knew what he was getting himself into.
Itâs silly to go hunting for enemies, especially with powerful people. So itâs possible Bronn attempts to engage Sandor was with no ill intentions. Bronnâs not too accustomed to our idea friendship or really the idea of friendship. A bit of verbal quarrel may just be the only way he knows how to interact, with humour and insults. To Bronn, he probably doesnât think he said anything insulting. Granted he was being a little smug about it and at the same time sarcastic, which can very much be seen as mocking. Yet again, going by his âfriendshipâ with Tyrion, Bronn may only know how to interact this way; being a bit of a prick. Â Sandor may have thought Bronn was calling him a terrible person, but to Bronn, it was just for laughs.
Sandor much rather beat his face in, so he challenges Bronn. Which Bronn doesnât immediately rises up to. Itâs a fight he rather avoid if possible. The âand quickerâ,line was probably a last attempt to lighten the mood. Heâs pretty comfortable, drink in hand, whore on lap; he doesnât want to get up, but he doesnât want to go down without a fight, so yeah he gets up.
We know what happens, siege bells, partyâs over. The point of that was, Bronn wasnât looking for a fight, he wanted to lighten the mood and does so in the only way he knew how. Risky, but he may have been confident  his men would back him up or the Hound wouldnât be so quick to kill him, because they still need him. Bronn knew what he was doing.
Though, was the Houndâs intention to kill the man? He didnât draw a sword and he made pretty vague threats. âYour lord Impâs gonna miss you.â which could be interpret as Bronnâs not surviving the siege  because heâs so cocky.. I donât really remember, but Sandor seems pretty direct with most of his threats. With no weapon drawn, the Hound mightâve just settled for a good olâ brothel brawl.
âOne more drink before the war, shall we?â
A truce. A remainder of âweâre on the side side btwâ  but also a âno hard feelings, I donât really care you think Iâm shit.â And Sandor takes the drink and cracks a smile( maybe Iâm seeing things). If he was really offended the Hound couldâve still killed him, he wasnât aware of Bronnâs role in Tyrionâs plan, or at least punch him in the face. Although he probably  realized that would have started an unnecessary fight. Sandor may have eventually noticed(probably not because how much shit could he give) that Bronn never denys liking murder. He eye rolled. Which could be taken as a âohh you think that of all sellswords, sillyâ or âlol no fucking duhâ.
Of course he doesnât kill him because Bronn still has a role to play, but Iâll trust GRRM who writing this episode to understand their dynamic. I like to believe Sandor walked out of the scene thinking Bronn isnât that much of a shithead
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