A female common green darner (Anax junius) in the Greenhorn Mountains, California, USA

Common Green Darner (Anax junius), male, family Aeshnidae, San Joaquin Wildlife Sanctuary, CA, USA

Hi!

Thank you for this ask I forgot about😅 I was trying not to do that and actually answer 😅 sorry. But I like asks I swear, even if I'm bad at them!!! 😭🥰😘

Originally I just didn't think about it; and called him prince in Odysseus' Iliad: Romance and Pain, because

- I had recently read Circe by MM where he's called prince (forgot to question it, that's on me)

- I wanted to make him sound young.

And! Prince is one of the most charming titles for me - I grew up with the game Prince of Persia 🧡

Then.

Reading the Iliad I seem to remember they are always called kings (anax or basileos, the first (Agamemnon and Zeus) is the 'supreme' or 'high' king, that rules over the local kings called basileos). Like the Irish High King and the feudal lord having vassals, when there are a lot of riotous local powers a judge of sorts is needed.

I don't remember mentions of princes or even the existence of the position of crown prince; in fact with all the succession disaster in mythos I think they did not have it. When a king died and he had more then one son... Whelp! Civil war time! XD ⚔️🩸

Kidding. Mostly.

So I decided since Odysseus ruled a kingdom and he's called King in the Iliad, he's a king.

Should I go back and edit all mentions of his as prince, I wondered. Well, I could, but...! That's easy. I knew I could do better 😈

When I decided that The Nasty Iphigenia Business and Odysseus' Iliad Romance and Pain were in the same universe, I found a canonical reason why in the latter he is calling himself prince despite being a king - which I'll eventually post - and I've been calling Odysseus king ever since 👑✨ since he retroactively always had been one 😏

Aside, because like Nestor I'm hard to stop when I get yapping...

Hector/Ektor is ok being the crown prince, despite the somewhat medieval terminology, because the Hittites were my inspiration for Troy/Ilios; their king, the Labarna, has a crown prince/heir apparent title: the Tuhkanti.

Since Troy is on the outskirts of the Hittite empire I didn't want to use specific terms for what was likely an influential but ultimately foreign culture, so 'crown prince' makes do.

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In the Odyssey, there are occasions where individuals seem to be described as rulers of populations: Odysseus’ comrades ask Antiphates’ daughter who the basileus of the Laestrygones is (10.110), while Pheidon is named as the basileusof the Thesprotians (14.316; 19.287) and Phaidimos the basileus of the Sidonians (15.118); in the Iliad, Rhesos is named as king of the Thracians (10.435). What is interesting is that all these cases concern populations that were considered either non-Hellenic (the Laestrygones, Sidonians, and Thracians) or something less than Hellenic (the Thesprotians) – a usage that, in some senses, anticipates the application of the term to non-Greek sovereigns in the Classical period. On the Greek side, we do hear of basileis of the Argives (e.g. Il. 10.195) and of the Achaeans (24.404), but both these names are used virtually synonymously to designate the collective forces that marched on Troy rather than specific populations rooted in particular regions. Among the Achaeans, only Agamemnon is explicitly named as king of anything, and in this case it is not of a population but of a place – “Mycenae, rich in gold” (Il. 7.180; 11.46). Other heroes, such as Achilles (1.331) or Diomedes and Odysseus (14.379–80), are simply nominated basileis without any further specification. Similarly, in the Catalogue of Ships, the Achaean heroes may sometimes be described as arkhoi(“leaders”) of the contingents that they bring to Troy (e.g. Il. 2.541, 2.685), but never as basileis. Agamemnon does merit the title anax (e.g. Il. 1.172), which might have suggested a more regal status were it not for the fact that the term is also applied to Aeneas (5.311) and Polydamas (15.453–4), neither of whom was a sovereign ruler.

In fact, there are three reasons why it is difficult to view Homeric basileis as kings in any sense we would understand today. Firstly, basileus appears to be a relative, rather than an absolute, term. In the Iliad (9.69), Nestor describes Agamemnon as basileutatos (“the most basileus”) while Agamemnon himself notes that he is basileuteros (“more of a basileus”) than Achilles (9.160). Some have inferred from this that Achilles belongs to a more junior cadre of princes, subordinated to a paramount ruler, Agamemnon, but a little later, Achilles refuses Agamemnon’s offer of his daughter’s hand in marriage and bids him to “choose another of the Achaeans who is more similar to himself and more of a basileus” (9.391–92). This would seem to imply that basileus designates a personal authority that is subject to various gradations rather than a formally constituted office. Secondly, we often hear of a plurality of basileis. One of Penelope’s suitors, Antinous, points out that there are “many other basileis of the Achaeans in sea-girt Ithaca, both young and old” (Od. 1.394–95) and Alcinous notes that the Phaeacians have “twelve distinguished basileis who bear sway as leaders in the region, and I myself am the thirteenth” (8.390–91). Thirdly, the principle of hereditary succession, which would seem to be a fundamental characteristic of kingship as we understand it, is by no means guaranteed in the Homeric world. Odysseus is recognized as a basileus on Ithaca, but his father, Laertes, is still alive. Nor is there any certitude that his son, Telemachus, will succeed him to royal office should news of his demise be confirmed. When, in the Odyssey, Telemachus summons the assembly, we are told that the elders make way for him as he sits in the seat of his father (2.14) but he is utterly powerless at persuading – let alone ordering – his mother’s suitors to abstain from consuming the entire wealth of his house. Nor can it be accidental that the suitors Antinous and Eurymakhos are both described as basileis (18.64–65; 24.179).”