469 vs 459: Independent? Or very very not?
I remember reading a post somewhere saying that the main difference between these two is that the 459 is very independent whereas the 469 is very very not. I can't find the original post, but I want to address this.
The 459 certainly is very independent, being the most withdrawn type. But this can vary to some degree. A 4w3 5w6 9w1 so/sx will probably be the least independent of the tritype, although still would be very independent. The 4w5 5w4 9w8 the most independent and erasures of this tritype.
As for the 469, I think this vary a lot more than the 459. 4w3 6w7 9w1 so/sx will be very dependant, especially with the 6 in charge. Whereas a 4w5 cp6w5 9w8 sp/sx will still need people and reassurance, but a lot less of it, especially if the 6w5 is at the bottom. The 6w5 has a very do-it-yourself attitude, along with the take it or leave it mentality of the 4w5 and more balance nature of the 9w8. Even more so if they are introverted, which is likely.
I felt like I should say something as it did not align with my experience. I'm 9w1 4w5 p6w5, so with the low 6w5 and the closeness to the 149 and 459 I'm a much more self critical, withdrawn and independent seeker.
Then how do we tell 459 and 469 apart? At the end of the day the 469, no matter how many 5 wings, needs the reassurance of others. They can't be to sure of their own judgement, they fear get anything wrong especially when they have company. 469 may say a lot of things like "I thought maybe", "it could be", "that's what I thinking so far, but I'm not too sure," "I imagine," "I'm not too certain, but," "just an idea I had, I'm not too sure of it," and if they can they will phrase the things they want to say as questions instead of statements. If you don't do this you probably don't have a p6. I'm not too sure if cp6 would act that way, they are unlikely for this tritype and it's kinda hard to imagine the 9 with 6cp.
