#2020-dec

TheAdamWilliams: “Never even heard of it 🤔 ‘jolivira_: TheAdamWilliams do you ship johnlock’”- Dec 12, 2020

jolivira_: “watch this video and then please let me know your thoughts on the subject matter ‘https://youtu.be/fsKWdvsxvN4‘“- 12:08 PM Dec 12, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “Watched it.. and I saw the series. Didn't clock it myself but they're certainly quirky as a team. Or whatever they are. I usually don't ship. I came across Destiel by chance and I warmed up to it after seeing the dissertations and rewatching key episodes. It's a thing. ‘ jolivira_: watch this video and then please let me know your thoughts on the subject matter https://youtu.be/fsKWdvsxvN4′”- 1:01 PM Dec 12, 2020

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jolivira_: “So are you officially confirming that you ship destiel and not johnlock? ‘TheAdamWilliams: Watched it.. and I saw the series. Didn't clock it myself but they're certainly quirky as a team. Or whatever they are. I usually don't ship. I came across Destiel by chance and I warmed up to it after seeing the dissertations and rewatching key episodes. It's a thing.’ “- 1:07 PM Dec 12, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: I officially confirmed that I ship Destiel some 5-6yrs ago. 🤷‍♂️ ‘ jolivira_: So are you officially confirming that you ship destiel and not johnlock?’”- 1:24 PM Dec 12, 2020

Context: On Dec 11, 2020 SPN’s then visual effects I/O coordinator, Adam Williams, made a tweet about the leaked 15x18 script. Which then sparked a long chain of quote tweets between Adam and a handful of fans that lasted until the next day. -cont.

frostedflake: “so you agree dean wants to be in a relationship with cas ? ‘TheAdamWilliams: It's more complicated than that. I'm  straight but I've had two "boyfriends". We loved each other, we just didn't want each other's danglers. It wasn't about sex it was about who we were. When Dean clocks Cas after Cas gets cleaned up.. cmon. You can see it with your own eyes.’”- 2:39 PM Dec 11, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “Is in a relationship with Cas, you mean I don't think Dean wants to penetrate Castiel's anus with his penis. A kiss wouldn't hurt though. 🤔 ‘frostedflake: so you agree dean wants to be in a relationship with cas ?’”- 2:41 PM Dec 11, 2020

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HallmarkDestiel: “He just keeps opening his mouth and making it worse. I feel... invalidated.”- 3:09 PM Dec 11, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “If you needed me to share your views in order for you to feel validated then I guess the quicker we nip that in the bud the better. https://twitter.com/HallmarkDestie...” -3:13 PM Dec 11, 2020

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winterangeI: “the way you literally don’t care how you’re spouting biphobia right now ‘TheAdamWilliams: If you needed me to share your views in order for you to feel validated then I guess the quicker we nip that in the bud the better.’”- 3:13 PM Dec 11, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “Some people spend their time online accusing everyone they see of biphobia, transphobia, trying to silence people, blah blah. It's a knife that has become dull with improper use. And we all know it and can ignore it. ‘winterangeI: the way you literally don’t care how you’re spouting biphobia right now’”- 3:24 PM Dec 11, 2020

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winterangeI: “the way i actually respected you at first and now you’re just invalidating my sexuality and others and calling fans thieves and just... you’ve lost me man” - 3:28 PM Dec 11, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “Bye 👋 ‘winterangeI: “the way i actually respected you at first and now you’re just invalidating my sexuality and others and calling fans thieves and just... you’ve lost me man’”- 3:33PM Dec 11, 2020

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CANONCASTlEL: “dude. surely even someone with their head shoved half as far up their arse as you would be able to hear it when someone tells them they are hurting other people.” - 3:35 PM Dec 11, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “Tweets don't hurt anyone. And if you think they do you should travel the world a few years and see what pain looks like. ‘CANONCASTlEL: dude. surely even someone with their head shoved half as far up their arse as you would be able to hear it when someone tells them they are hurting other people.’“- 3:38 PM Dec 11, 2020

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BUCKYSHIELD: “words hurt did you not learn that when you were a kid or” - 3:44 PM Dec 11, 2020

[source] - This response is now from a deleted account and therefore gone but the Wayback Machine shows us what it looked like originally.

TheAdamWilliams: “If someone on Twitter saying a fictional character on a television show isn't bi hurts someone then it's on them. I'm not responsible for how someone responds to what I say, I'm only responsible for what I say. ‘BUCKYSHIELD: words hurt did you not learn that when you were a kid or’”- 3:53 PM Dec 11, 2020

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mm_potterhead: “It's unbelievable that you still don't understand. This is because you said Dean is attracted to someone of the same gender and still not bisexual. If Dean likes Cas, he's bisexual or pansexual."- 10:42 PM Dec 11, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “Cas doesn't have a gender. So Dean is whatever the Tumblr term is for that. Don't let the labels ruin a good story. ‘mm_potterhead: It's unbelievable that you still don't understand. This is because you said Dean is attracted to someone of the same gender and still not bisexual. If Dean likes Cas, he's bisexual or pansexual.’“- 10:45 PM Dec 11, 2020

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mayaderendyke: “things that just make sense: supernatural being written by people like this ‘ TheAdamWilliams: It's more complicated than that. I'm 💯 straight but I've had two "boyfriends". We loved each other, we just didn't want each other's danglers. It wasn't about sex it was about who we were. When Dean clocks Cas after Cas gets cleaned up.. cmon. You can see it with your own eyes.’”- 1:33PM Dec 12, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “I'm not a writer for Supernatural My fanfic is on point tho ‘mayaderendyke: things that just make sense: supernatural being written by people like this’”- 1:37 PM Dec 12, 2020

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QClexa: “ i dont usually go for m/m fic but i'd read it if it was written by you. drop ur ao3 account king” - 12:32 Dec 12, 2020

[source] - This response is now from a deleted account and therefore gone but the Wayback Machine shows us what it looked like originally.

TheAdamWilliams: “My fanfic isn't m/m stuff, it's script outlines. ‘QClexa: i dont usually go for m/m fic but i'd read it if it was written by you. drop ur ao3 account king’” - 3:56 PM Dec 12, 2020

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naterpillarr: “Hey did u know that there are asexual gay/bi men ‘TheAdamWilliams: It's more complicated than that. I'm  straight but I've had two "boyfriends". We loved each other, we just didn't want each other's danglers. It wasn't about sex it was about who we were. When Dean clocks Cas after Cas gets cleaned up.. cmon. You can see it with your own eyes.’- 2:21 PM Dec 12, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “No but I could predict it. Every combination possible will at some point arise. But like the light spectrum how we divide and categorize things is arbitry outside of the usefulness it serves us. Some people are simply not interested in sex. Call it what you will. 🤷‍♂️ ‘naterpillarr: Hey did u know that there are asexual gay/bi men’“- 2:24 PM Dec 12, 2020

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naterpillarr: “But I think what people are trying to say is, they feel as if Dean being in a relationship with Cas means he's bi or pansexual, and that that sort of representation is valuable to them. They feel as if you're taking that away from them” - 2:29 PM Dec 12, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “I never denied the relationship.. I just don't think Dean is bi. I'm not robbing anyone of their opinion. Why do people want to rob me of mine? ‘naterpillarr: But I think what people are trying to say is, they feel as if Dean being in a relationship with Cas means he's bi or pansexual, and that that sort of representation is valuable to them. They feel as if you're taking that away from them’“- 2:32 PM Dec 12, 2020

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(...) Jared said in a meet and greet that this was Sam’s happiest moment in a way because it was what started him on the path that became so fulfilling for him, as he got back on the road with his brother. Having heard Dean’s confession of how terrified he was that Sam would turn him away, Sam showed up in clothes that evoked that moment, at the time when Dean would never have to worry about being without his brother again. Damn it, more tissues… (...) (...)When the finale script was read by the actors, Jensen Ackles wasn’t sure he could get his head around Sam and Dean dying, so he spoke to the person who he knew he could trust to give him a read on whether it really was a good ending – the man who created the characters and the show, Eric Kripke. After talking with Eric, he got it – and came to wholeheartedly support the ending.  (In fact, both Jared and Jensen have said that they count the finale as a favorite episode, perhaps the favorite). Shortly after Jensen’s chat with him, I had a chance to chat with Eric and I asked him what he’d said to make Jensen feel so much better. He didn’t spoil the ending, but he did remind me that Sam and Dean deserved “peace when they are done”. And the only way they could find peace is if it was no longer their mantra that “we got work to do”. As long as there were things to fight, the Winchesters would have work to do. Their peace, in other words, had to be on another plane of existence, one where there are no monsters. That’s what Sam and Dean found at the very end of Supernatural, in Heaven. And that’s beautifully full circle. (...) In their chapters in There’ll Be Peace When You Are Done, both Jared and Jensen talked about how important Sam and Dean are to them, and how even the end of the show won’t change that. Pretty sure alot of us can say the same. (...)

Context: On Dec 13, 2020 a fan started a conversation saying Jensen’s ad-lib lines in SPN 15x18 “Despair” had caused the Spanish translation “y yo a ti” . Narwhalltime’s (who had supposedly worked on the spn set) tweet about Dean’s “what are you talking about man?” line also not being in the script was quote-tweeted, which prompted Narwhalltime to respond:

TFW2pointO: “Jensen's ad-lib caused all this drama. 🤣 #supernatural #SPN ‘https://teamfreewillbettertogether.tumblr.com/post/637414660...′″- Dec 13, 2020

SimaCrofe: “The whole thing is blown out of proportion, I hope fandom will finally put it to rest. Do you know if "what are you talking about, man?" was a choice on Jensen's part too?” - 2:33 PM Dec 13, 2020

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TFW2pointO: “We believe so, but are looking for the final script in order to confirm. ‘narwhalltime: dont fucking tell me y'all really think the "what are you talking about, man?" line was actually scripted and not altered to make it sound more hetero AHAHAHAHAHAH i have to laugh #spn #destiel’“- Dec 13, 2020

narwhalltime: “I know the word “draft” can be misleading to people who don’t work in the industry, but scripts are always called drafts. There is no “final script”. They just release revisions and then change the “color” of the script/pages. Yes, white is the 1st color, but- “ - Dec 13, 2020

narwhalltime: “I believe the pages of that scene remained white til the shooting date” - 8:12 PM Dec 13, 2020

Context: On Dec 11, 2020 SPN’s then visual effects I/O coordinator, Adam Williams, made a tweet about the leaked 15x18 script. Which then sparked a long chain of quote tweets between Adam and various fans that lasted until the next day.

TheAdamWilliams: “SPN hired fans, someone stole a script, blah blah shocker.

Looks like a draft that was in Prod Office by the watermark. People's names are on their own copies

Even after Prod left the studio a fan with the tattoo was there for tear down. Amazed more shit wasn't leaked or stolen” - 1:39 PM Dec 11, 2020

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alwaysbeenariel: “Regardless of whats true or not, both version confirm d*stiel was never going to go canon. ♥️ ‘TheAdamWilliams: SPN hired fans, someone stole a script, blah blah shocker. Looks like a draft that was in Prod Office by the watermark. People's names are on their own copies Even after Prod left the studio a fan with the tattoo was there for tear down. Amazed more shit wasn't leaked or stolen’”- 2:21 PM Dec 11, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “IMO Destiel is canon, but I don't think Dean is bisexual. He loves Cas but he isn't a d-man. Cas doesn't have a gender, really, but his suit has a dangler and Dean likes his tacos. ‘alwaysbeenariel: Regardless of whats true or not, both version confirm d*stiel was never going to go canon. ♥️’”- 2:29PM Dec 11, 2020

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alwaysbeenarielIf: “Cas is gender-less and Dean is straight. I don't see how destiel is canon? It's more of a headcanon ship. But not an actual confirmed relationship. Dean is confirmed straight. Cas's confession might be canon but not Destiel.  Dean likes tacos 💯 ‘TheAdamWilliams: IMO Destiel is canon, but I don't think Dean is bisexual. He loves Cas but he isn't a d-man. Cas doesn't have a gender, really, but his suit has a dangler and Dean likes his tacos.’”- 2:33PM Dec 11, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “It's more complicated than that. I'm 💯 straight but I've had two "boyfriends". We loved each other, we just didn't want each other's danglers. It wasn't about sex it was about who we were. When Dean clocks Cas after Cas gets cleaned up.. cmon. You can see it with your own eyes. ‘alwaysbeenariel: If Cas is gender-less and Dean is straight. I don't see how destiel is canon? It's more of a headcanon ship. But not an actual confirmed relationship. Dean is confirmed straight. Cas's confession might be canon but not Destiel.  Dean likes tacos💯’” - 2:38PM  Dec 11, 2020

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HUNTERSDAYA_: ““i had a boyfriend. no homo tho.” ‘TheAdamWilliams: It's more complicated than that. I'm  straight but I've had two "boyfriends". We loved each other, we just didn't want each other's danglers. It wasn't about sex it was about who we were. When Dean clocks Cas after Cas gets cleaned up.. cmon. You can see it with your own eyes.‘”- 3:00PM Dec 11, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “Maybe one day you will be fortunate enough to understand. Probably not, but maybe. ‘ HUNTERSDAYA_: “i had a boyfriend. no homo tho.”’”- 3:05 Dec 11, 2020

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The response to Adam below was deleted and is from a now deactivated account but thanks to the Wayback Machine we are still able to see the old response.

deadfloweranemo: “Adam, what you mean by all your tweets is- BROMANCE. we call that bromance honey. The thing between Cas and Dean is BROmance. Not romantic but platonic. These guys love each other, sex is not included.” - 12:08 Dec 11, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “I disagree that Destiel is just Bromance or that a lack of sex equates to simply Bromance. But please, ladies, tell me more about how much you understand male/male relationships. ‘https://t.co/orJ0bkCOBj This Tweet is unavailable.‘”- 3:11pm Dec 11, 2020

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TheAdamWilliams: “I disagree that Destiel is just Bromance or that a lack of sex equates to simply Bromance. But please, ladies, tell me more about how much you understand male/male relationships. ‘deadfloweranemo: Adam, what you mean by all your tweets is- BROMANCE. we call that bromance honey. The thing between Cas and Dean is BROmance. Not romantic but platonic. These guys love each other, sex is not included.’”- 12:11 Dec 11, 2020

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