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Introducing the Star Wars Reference Wiki!

Introducing the Star Wars Fic Reference Wiki, a wiki for fic writers by fic writers!

The Star Wars Fic Reference Wiki is intended as a way for fic writers and other fanwork creators to easily look up pertinent information without having to slog through dense paragraphs or comb through categories with dozens or even hundreds of entries with few indicators of what the pages are. Do you want lists? Do you want tables? Do you want easily digestible bullet points? We've got 'em!

We build pages from common questions we or other fic writers have, such as:

All these fics incorporate events from Jedi Apprentice, but what really happened to Obi-Wan Kenobi in Legends?

How do the stories in Revenge of the Sith and The Clone Wars mesh together?

Which characters are LGBTQIA+? Who are some LGBTQIA+ creators who have worked on a Star War? How about a timeline of LGBTQIA+ people and content?

BBY/ABY, BrS/GrS, BFE/AFE... what's the difference between these and all those other calendars? What calendar do characters use before the Battle of Yavin?

What are some idioms or kriffing swears this character could use to sound more Star Wars-y?

Does the GFFA have its own version of a grilled cheese sandwich with tomato soup?

What could be used as a pack animal in one of the many, many deserts?

Why does this fic call him "Yan" or "Glamnor" Dooku? Is her full name Padmé Amidala Naberrie or something else?

How many costumes does Padmé wear? What about other SW costumes?

What are some canonical design options for a Kiffar OC's facial tattoo?

Are these the droids you're looking for?

Are you constantly losing those handy tumblr posts compiling useful resources? We have a permanent page for that!

(Swears in light mode; LGBTQIA+ characters in dark mode)

We've only recently started building the wiki, and are creating new pages all the time! We'd love help or suggestions for new pages. Have you never edited a wiki before? No problem! We have a tutorial for that. Are you not super confident about your English? No worries! Other wiki editors are here to help! We have a Discord server for the wiki, and side channels for things like SW fic recs and general fan chat.

Thank you for initial brainstorming and showing us there was an interest in and audience for this wiki, from us (facingthenorthwind and immithrax) to you: @nimata-beroya, @cacodaemonia, @elismor, @genericficerblog, @seth-shitposts, @takadasaiko, and @virusq!

Many hands make great wikis, so please, come on over and join us, and check back to see what new things we have in store! If you find our pages useful, we'd also love if you could spread the word, so other people can make use of the resources we've worked hard to create.

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(anon for shyness, nothing more) In the "list of pages I would love to see": a list of the 501st members (pre order-66 is my personal interest), when they joined, died. Not details, just, who's who in the 501st. Because it's it's the kind of detail that's hard to easily gather. And some of it is totally contradictory -- Legends vs canon -- but even knowing the contradictions helps.

Sort of like the list of Jedi who survived the Purge? Once you know a clone's name, looking up info becomes easy. But knowing who was in the 501st -- or like, other legions! -- is really hard to pull from wookiepedia because the "list" doesn't exist in one place.

Anyway, that would help a humongous lot for fic writing, and it's not something Wookiepedia does well (or at all): lists of background characters, and their timeline entrances and exits from the GAR.

It will probably take a very long time for us to do this because it's just... so enormous, but luckily other people have done it! We can't 100% vouch for the accuracy, but two heroes have resources that you might be interested in: a spreadsheet by @clonetroops and this post by @propheticfire.

You can find more handy links to clone wars references here!

#ask #i can totally see how this would be super useful! the concept of creating it makes me shit myself in fear #which doesn't mean no one will! just... not immediately #mod zeen

tatooineknights

the people need your deepest thoughts on the whole blue milk situation

Love the implication that he drinks milk all the time, and that the habit continued throughout his years with the rebels. That one comic where Han asks for a stiff drink and Luke asks for a milk to go with it lives rent free in my mind…

galactic-rhea

i get you, Luke, I also love milk even though most people seem weirded out by it (or mocked).

Funfact the reason our irl milk is white is bc one of the main proteins (casein) in milk form something called micelles

This means that the blue milk in SW is blue because the arrangement of proteins must be different in such a way that it allows for all the spectrum of light to be reflected but the blue light; irl when milk has less content of fats it can take a slightly blueish white, instead of a more yellow white, but this is affected by the light present in the environment! Banthas come across to me as animals that do, in fact, produce a milk with high content of fats, so a low fats milk can't be the answer for the blue milk in SW, so I stick with the different proteins arrangament.

However, another contender could be that Banthas and other blue milk producers in SW's diet is based on vegetables with a high, extremely high, content of anthocyans (what gives some fruits and plants a blue,violet or red color), however anthocyans are metabolized super fast by mammals, so Banthas methabolism must be different for this to work, there's been studies that shows that anthocyans can act as antioxidants, which, if is passed onto their milk, could meant the blue milk is not as prone to spoil as ours (which is great for Tatooine), also the blue color depends on the pH, otherwise it might look red or violet, so if this were the reason, blue milk could be naturally more acidic.

darth-grips

Adding on to this since I love everything about it, because other than water, banthas seem to be one of Tatooine's main agricultural products, it stands to reason that people born and bred on Tatooine are very much part of a dairy culture (as in, a culture that produces and consumes dairy products, not something that makes yogurt, though Tatooinians almost certainly also do that LMFAO). An obvious analagous irl example would be camel pastoralists living in MENA, and those people consume A LOT of camel milk, especially when there aren't very many other forms of water/moisture available. This is actually true of most pastoralist cultures living in arid environments (think Central Asia/Mongolia, East Africa as well). Because along with being calorie-dense and nutritious, milk contains a lot of bioavailable water per volume compared to other food, which makes it particularly useful in arid environments.

One of the main reasons humans domesticated ruminant ungulates in the first place is to convert the nutrients found in low-quality forage we aren't able to digest as humans (grass, woody shrubs, etc) into something more readily available for our phisiology. In arid places, this can include converting the moisture found in these plants into something we're able to drink! (Milk is the main product used for that, but also blood in certain cases, particularly in times of deprivation). I imagine the Sand People, since they don't appear to utilize vaporators all that often, subsist almost entirely on bantha milk and black melons in order to meet their daily water intake.

But the Larses are moisture farmers, you might say -- they of all people would have water to drink, they don't need to buy milk to meet their hydration needs (I'm assuming they buy it, since there don't seem to be any banthas on the homestead lol). And, well -- sure, I suppose. But water is also THEE cash crop on Tatooine, and you don't want to be drinking all your money, especially when it can be sold/bartered for a bunch of different, perhaps less important for basic survival but still equally useful stuff. I imagine blue milk is actually probably a little cheaper than water, not quite as hydrating but still nutritious and full of other good stuff like sugar and fats and proteins and micronutrients, all of which are especially important if you're living marginally in one of the harshest environments a human can reasonably survive in. Why only eat your calories when you can also drink them and also recieve a hydration boost in the process? So milk and dairy become not only a survival tool, but also a part of culture and identity. So of course Luke is going to grow up drinking blue milk probably every day, and crave it as an adult out in the big wide galaxy even if he has no intentions of ever stepping on Tatooine again after RotJ.

It's easy as westerners to dunk on Luke's milk drinking habits because, lbr, Luke Skywalker at first glance looks like was plucked right off the Santa Monica boardwalk circa 1977 and most of us who eithet look similar to him or come from western backgrounds probably stopped drinking dairy regularly when we were kids. It's objectively very funny to think of a grown man going into a bar and ordering a tall glass of milk to take the edge off a hard day. And you know what? It probably isn't as deep as I'm making it out to be.

But given what we know of where and how he grew up it makes complete sense for him to be drinking milk way into adulthood. Look at rural Mongolia for example, another extremely arid environment where pastoralism is their primary means of agriculture, 50% of the calories consumed by an average person during the summer come from dairy products (got this figure from the Max Planck Institute), a huge chunk of which is from liquid milk products (albeit probably processed in some way, most likely fermentation). Like, their flagship alcoholic beverage is made by fermenting mare's milk, though it can also be produced at low alcohol contents and drinking this version is a pretty regular occurrence. Like obviously the proportion of milk consumed in the average modern Mongolian diet goes down the more urbanized of a lifestyle they're living (trending toward the globalized mean), but like every Mongolian, along with the occasional Kazakh or Kyrgyz, I've ever seen who's commented on the subject on places like reddit agrees that drinking milk of whatever animal as an adult is super duper normal lol because it's simply part of the culture.

So. All this to say that the SWars writers consistently making Luke order blue milk in bars as a jokey joke is accidentally good and compelling worldbuilding and makes sense given his home planet and upbringing along with just being a cute quirk LOL. Anyway.

grand-duc

If Bantha milk was a big part of the diet on Tattooine and one of the main food source, they are for sure making alcohol with it.

Making alcohol out of anything that contains enough sugar to ferment is just what people do (In SW with possible exception of species that do not tolerate alcohol), and that goes double if the thing is your main product.

Depending on things such as shelf life and how common lactase persistence is in the population (which is not homogenous and includes a lot of immigrants), the fermented milk could be for special occasion/getting drunk, or it could be the main drinkable form.

Hell, the fermentation process could even be what makes it blue, especially if other ingredients are added as preservatives, flavoring agents or to speed up the process.

All that to say, what if every time Luke is having blue milk, he's having a drink with an alcoholic content anywhere from like 2-3% to 20%?

captain-kit-adventuress

I had the thought that it might be more like he's drinking bantha kefir. Assuming Tatooine bantha milk producers don't need to/aren't adding extra extra bacteria for fermentation purposes, at least not to all of the milk, that's essentially what kefir is, a thin, drinkable yogurt, aka fermented milk. And there's so much you can do with kefir to make it blue, like adding fruit for flavour or colour. Or possibly it's even a marketing tactic among local bantha milk sellers, like because the Tatooine colour palette is so heavy in reds and oranges and yellows, that something which looks blue seems like it's full of moisture and that's what their concept of "good for you" revolves around, because it's the opposite of basically everything Tatooine is.

On the other hand, I also love the idea of like, heavily fermented, super alcoholic bantha milk being a sort of sly play on "mother's milk," which is what English speakers often say when they want to make something sound extremely natural and harmless when you consume it, and that Luke looks like he's drinking all this healthy bantha milk, but really, he's just kind of this hick farmer kid from a backwater planet who's a little bit drunk all the time because he grew up basically drinking milk moonshine like all the other kids, and the blue colour is evidence that it's the alcoholic kind--something anyone on Tatooine or anyone familiar with the customs of Tatooine would know, but not necessarily strangers or the audience would.

swficreference

Ohboyohboy SO MANY BLUE MILK THOUGHTS, some I've had and some brand new to ponder!

As far as canonical stuff, this brings up that I still need to further research a couple fleeting mentions of fermentation, one that could just be a joke made out of universe and one that's devoid of context other than "a bartender said it" in the Star Wars Galaxies MMORPG. Also an implication in 1998 that "blue milk" is a beverage where just one ingredient is milk and it turns blue after mixing. (This has since changed!) But the fermentation joke(?) and the description of mixing it both come from Stephen J. Sansweet, so what SW stories or materials did he have in mind?

Anyone know of any info that'd contradict the theory that the Blue Milk fan film is why blue milk is bantha milk? Or of any time they were the same thing before this fan film?

As far as bantha products and colors, what's a Watsonian take on post-Star Wars Galaxies Legends having green bantha butter instead of blue? (Doylist: bantha milk wasn't blue then.) And The Old Republic MMORPG (still going!) mentions "blue milk going a little green".

For a lot more on blue milk in canon, with a heads-up to do whatever you need to do when you visit a Fandom URL:

Blue milk is the classic Star Wars beverage first seen on screen in the very first Star Wars now known as Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope.

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Is there any content that people want to see from this blog? I initially imagined highlighting specific articles, and while we'll definitely do that periodically, I'm discovering that I often don't feel like pages are complete enough to be promo-able (at least, the ones I'm working on).

#mod zeen

swficreference

OH MY GOOOD thank you do much for this amazing work you do!!!

i was wondering if anyone can make/find a real life -> star wars page for games (especially card games) to help writers with scenes set in casinos & similars or just. u know. grandmas passing their times

Absolutely! It won't be ready immediately, of course, but we've begun the research. Thanks for the request -- it helps us know what people would find useful. <3

swficreference

Hey anon! I have a present for you: Games. This is by no means finished -- it's missing sabacc along with a bunch of other games -- but it's a start! I won't be able to edit it for two weeks, so I'm putting the current progress here for you. (If anyone wants to expand the page while I'm gone, that would be great!)

#mod zeen

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OH MY GOOOD thank you do much for this amazing work you do!!!

i was wondering if anyone can make/find a real life -> star wars page for games (especially card games) to help writers with scenes set in casinos & similars or just. u know. grandmas passing their times

Absolutely! It won't be ready immediately, of course, but we've begun the research. Thanks for the request -- it helps us know what people would find useful. <3

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