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I know I'm probably reading into it too hard but I'm still SO interested in Brennan saying in Cooldown that Thjazi hates/hated Julien.
Like, obviously Julien hates/hated Thjazi, for reasons that haven't been fully explored yet. Based on most analysis of what we know so far, that hatred seems to be mostly based in 1) Julien's personal defense of Aranessa regarding her marriage and separation (potentially including romantic jealousy, but that isn't how I read it), 2) his overarching loyalty to the concept of House Royce and Thjazi's betrayal of it 3) classism in general/the idea that Thjazi overstepped his bounds as a commoner and needed to be put in his place, or 4) some secret offense that occurred at Maharlian Falls and has been kept quiet since. And most of those reasons only work because Julien is emotionally immature and has a fucked up relationship with social class and with feudalism - his hatred comes out of, mostly, his character flaws.
Because we don't know the whole story between them, and because of a general tendency in fanworks to make Thjazi sympathetic when possible, in most meta and fanfiction that I've encountered, Thjazi doesn't actually reciprocate that hatred. Rather, he's annoyed but not hateful, or he thinks it's Julien's childish ire until it's too late, or he thinks they're sharing a (mean) joke, or that even if Julien hates him (Thjazi), he's (Julien) a good and valuable addition to Aranessa's safety network regardless. But apparently that's a false reading! He DOES, at this point in time at least, hate Julien! Enough to try to kill him several times!
WHAT happened that makes Thjazi hate Julien, from whom he's been estranged since Julien was 17 or 18 years old and Thjazi was in his 30s (ish, I think)? Is it literally just that Julien brought him in at Maharlian Falls? WHAT happened there that Azune saw and makes it more complicated? Julien has lived his life since the end of the rebellion surrounded by people who loved Thjazi and wouldn't shut up about it, so he's had plenty of room for that hatred to fester. What is going on, on Thjazi's end, that something Brennan called hatred has managed to survive, to a murderous degree, over more than a decade of not interacting with Julien and furthermore being busy doing other shit that he wasn't involved with at all?
I spent way too much time on this ✌
As sad as it is to lose not one Lionman but TWO, I always felt in my gut that this sort of death was what Campaign 4 was made for. The greatest play ever performed on the face of Araman is about a failed rebellion. This season started with the hanging of a man who lead his own failed rebellion. Failure and dying before the finish line did not mean the effort was wasted. It didn’t mean they were in the wrong. They may have lost, but because of their efforts those that came after had the strength to continue that fight. Brennan created a campaign where the odds can seem impossible, but unless the characters are willing to stake their lives and fail, nothing will improve. And when characters do fail their efforts won’t be for nothing, and they’re able pass on their hopes for another to pick up and continue. There will never be another Teor, but his memory and efforts will be carried forward by those who can still fight.

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Possibly?? out there opinion on the woman whose throat Wick slit: she was already dead. She was dead as soon as Primus singled her out. Her murderer was not Wick with Primus' dagger, it was Primus with Wick as his tool.
When Thimble first meets Thjazi, she leads with "I can kill a bunch of mice in your house. Also, I'm really good at braiding hair." Obviously from the campaign thus far, there is no question that her combat skills have far eclipsed that initial promise with her slicing and dicing experienced human-sized combatants and dangerous shadows right and left. Therefore, as the new Seekers embark on their next quest, I think it is high time for the hair-braiding half of the skillset to make a reappearance.
She has three long-haired party members with varied hair textures to practice on (potentially four if Bolaire brought his wig and is amenable) and both tiny and big forms to work in for extra versatility.
Give Kattigan some pretty braids and flower crowns--he'll love it. Vaelus, too--in fact, Thimble can probably recruit her help; surely someone who spent her childhood frolicking in the woods with unicorns has some long-dormant flower-crown skills to reawaken.
Julien is going to hate this and will undoubtedly not be at all amenable to participating, but, frankly, after the past couple of weeks, I think the low-stakes threat/rogue-on-(part-)rogue assault of how many braids and flowers Thimble can get into his hair before he notices will probably do him good. Get his mind off Tachonis plots and give him a good excuse for melodramatic bickering. It's enrichment.
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This is very messy but god do I love that woman… guys I need more of her in the campaign rn
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"Wicander, that one in five may be the end of your character's life."
the entire discovery of thjazi in julien's shadow scene, because it's beautiful
I think the thing that’s starting to annoy me too about Taliesin’s approach to this campaign is like…he’s very clearly not trusting Brennan as the DM to be straight with him above table. Brennan is saying things, both above table during the game and in the cooldowns that are clear DM signaling of “this is what the story is and what the themes are” and his response is to slyly be like “hmmm cute but I don’t trust it, I have a bad feeling”.
And it’s like. At a certain point with D&D you have to trust that the DM isn’t tricking you about what story is being told. If you don’t, you’re going to be actively working against the collaborative storytelling.
... F U C K
They're so iconic, absolutely impeccable comedic timing on Julien's part
The banner flies, and the General who opposed Teor in undeath, in life permanently altered and ruined his relationship with his son because the honor of the house Davinos was divided between those who opposed the Falconer's Rebellion and a general who would be horrified to know that he had killed Teor Pridesire. You do not destroy Raimond Davinos. You free him.

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regardless of anything else, thjazi does actually have the right to be pissed about being attached to julien's shadow if only for the fact that the very first night the curse took effect he had to watch julien have a threesome.
Actually, I'm going to discourse about it. Sorry! And it's very much along the lines of what I said about Murray's doubts over Thjazi's intentions. Thjazi is dead. Yes, he's in Julien's shadow, but he's there as a haunting. He is literally and figuratively haunting the narrative! He is not going to grow and change (maybe a little in his relationship to Julien now, but that's it). It's not his purpose. He is and remains more symbol than character (and while there are avenues open to Brennan to turn him back into a character, I think most of those would be a mistake, because it would very much make Thjazi the main character of the story to bring him back in a significant way.) It is important for Thjazi to be a flawed man. To have been impulsive sometimes, and wrong sometimes, to have hurt people (both intentionally and unintentionally), for him to have used people, and for him to have not had empathy for those still attached to the ways of the shapers/the sundered houses. It's important not for the sake of making Thjazi the character more interesting (that's nice, but it actually isn't necessary to telling this story well), it's important because it complicates his legacy and makes him harder for our protagonist to reckon with. It makes the fact that they are following in his footsteps more complicated because they aren't just blindly following his example. There will be places they diverge from him, for better and for worse. It does not add anything to the story to make him villainous or abusive. It doesn't add anything to the story to say our archetypal freedom fighter actually did have a group of people that he viewed as less than human. That he was cruel to the point where it would actually horrify his family and friends and make them not want to honor his memory. Or make them think less of him. All that does is deflate him as a symbol. He stops being someone whose legacy is being carefully navigated and becomes someone whose haunting of the narrative is a simple inconvenience. He stops meaning freedom fighter to the audience, and starts meaning nothing to them.
Bolaire is a character in this story. He is a PC with the capacity to grow and change and respond to the world around him. In fact, that's kind of his whole job as a PC. It adds nothing to the story if Thjazi is secretly way worse than we thought. It does add something to the story if Bolaire is wrong/hypocritical about him. Because that's an arc! That's something that Bolaire can learn about himself and the world and grow and change in response to! That's the whole ballgame in terms of telling a story. If Bolaire is uncomplicatedly right about Thjazi's treatment of him, that severely damages a central symbolic pillar of the narrative (think about Hal calling up the Falcon's Cry at the end of Kother'ai, that moment matters because of how we think about Thjazi and his final words to the crowd). If he's largely wrong, we've got a character arc to explore!