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Hey again, since you've once again brought up the idea of Hank and fatherhood, thought I'd try again to bring up his romantic history ( first comes love then comes marriage, Yada Yada and all that)
For a guy so down on himself and his appearance his got a pretty good dating history, and that's not even counting the people he's been teased with that the writers haven't pulled the trigger with yet
* cough*wonderman* cough*
How do you think Hanks romantic history in comics reflects on him as a romantic partner, both good and bad?
It's not my fault Hank's got such dad energy that people want to talk about how good of a father he'd make all the time. ;)
So, I think that Hank's romantic history is. Interesting. Because there's the surface level perception of Hank, and then there's the actuality of Hank as a romantic partner.
The surface level is largely dictated by the only non-comics source that ever bothered to give him a romance (no, I emphatically do not count the Mystique bullshit from the movies), which was the 90s animated series and the continuation of that theme in '97 this year.
Yep, it's time to talk about Carly Crocker!
Now, Carly is a completely original creation for the 90s show, and she doesn't quite fit any of the archetypes of Hank's other notable comics paramours, so I'd hazard a guess that they just kinda freestyled it here because, well, Hank's other romantic partners up to this point (Vera Cantor and Trish Tilby) wouldn't have fit the interracial romance/literal Beauty and the Beast angle that this episode is going for.
Carly's cute! I like her dynamic with Hank. They're very soft and tender with one another - she's not what I'd call frightfully complex, but she's a good woman with a nice dynamic that tugs at the heart strings a little, and especially given that the original 90s cartoon was aimed at kids, I feel like this is the right level of romantic interest to give a similarly relatively un-complex version of Beast.
Neither of them have any real negative qualities because if they did, well, it would detract from the tragedy of their denied romance and the unfairness of it all. It's very clear that the makers of the show want you to come away from this thinking that it's complete bullshit that Hank and Carly can't be together because other people are so small minded, and that would be muddied if Carly was, idk, kinda rude, or if we more faithfully transcribed some of Hank's neuroses to screen. So instead, it's very idealised.
This is where a lot of people get their idea of what Beast is like. He is a perfect saint who literally cures the blind on his time off from being a superhero, and his paramour is an angelic blind woman who is completely free from prejudice or rough edges. I think it's fine for what the show is going for, but it's not quite accurate to what Hank and his romantic history is like - to the point where I've seen some people (usually Redditors) say, UGHHHH, Beast was never the saint you think he was in the 90s cartoon, he's ALWAYS been morally grey, you fools! The fun blue uncle never existed in the comics!
And it's like, my guy. Yeah, the 90s show embellished a little bit, but this is not a million miles away from who Hank is. He's simplified, but Hank was absolutely a fun blue uncle jokester with a heart of gold for most of his existence. Maybe it wasn't exactly who he was in the comics, but neither is he what certain later writers think he is.
But. I digress.
We do, of course, have the '97 romance to consider, but we'll get to that, because that's a lot to unpack . . .
Comics!
Vera Cantor!
Ugh.
So, like . . . teenage Hank is just obnoxious. I don't enjoy him, tbh. He occasionally has good lines, but I'm basically just sitting around flicking his annoying head like
But in this instance, the 'do something' is turn blue. He's so much less obnoxious and annoying when he's blue . . .
Even filtering out the 60s misogyny, which isn't a particularly interesting flaw to try and give Hank, he's just not a great romantic partner because he's too stuffy and bookish. He's inattentive to Vera's needs and it really does read like he's only here because, well, it's something to do and Bobby needs a wingman. Vera states that she likes Hank because he's refined, which I suppose is true enough, but that's not enough to build anything more than a flirtation out of, tbh.
He's just. Not ready yet, for a fulfilling romance. The stuffiness and the blowhard vocabulary are all a smokescreen for a lot of insecurity, and that's just not someone who's ready to have a relationship.
Then again, when has that ever stopped a teenager?
They survive for longer than they should have done, honestly, given that Hank and Bobby are literally ALWAYS being called away to do X-Men things, which naturally puts a damper on dates, and they're on decent enough terms when she shows up again in Amazing Adventures, needing his help in dealing with Mimic's whole deal in Incredible Hulk.
It's a comic book romance (derogatory). It is what it is. Not really all that complex, not a lot to write home about.
Where it gets interesting is when J.M. DeMatteis enters the picture.
There's something very . . . performative, about Hank's romance with Vera, under DeMatteis. And I don't say that analytically, I mean that completely, utterly literally.
Silence. Uncertainty.
Guys, if I have to tell you that this is a bad foundation for a relationship, then I'm worried for you and your significant others. You can't be with someone because they're safe. That's part of a good reason to be with someone, but if you look at someone, and the best you can think of when you look at them is, you remind me of when my personal life was a little less scary because it was being dictated by a stern Professor Xavier, that's. Probably a sign???
It's also not great that Vera hasn't discovered feminist literature yet, so she keeps falling for being lovebombed because Hank is a bad boyfriend.
And this scene is just a big fuckin' WOOF.
Kid? Is that . . . really how you want to talk to your girlfriend, Hank?
Like . . . in the end, this is not the worst relationship in the world. Hank, when he's around, is charming. He's a good man. He writes good poetry, he'll take you dancing, he's handsome, he's great in bed, and he's a goddamn superhero. He is a fundamentally good man.
But.
He is inconsistent. He is prone to making decisions without consulting you. He is prone to showboating and revelling in attention from his fans because he has self-esteem issues. And, in the end? He's just not that into you, Vera. The base problem is still kind of the same - he's immature. He hasn't grown up yet. He's working on it! He's showing some self-awareness! But it's gonna be a bit before he's really good for anything beyond a fling.
Thankfully, Vera grew up and out of it quickly. Good for her!
The fact that they're still friendly means Hank didn't completely fuck this one up. I think both of them realise they had a lot of growing up to do, and I think that's the kind of sin you forgive people for a lot more when they're actually working on it, which Hank did.
Now, let's compare and contrast . . . with Jennifer Nyles.
I fucking love Jen.
Introduced in 1991's Marvel Presents as a flashback character who was Hank's first proper girlfriend (there's a character called Mindy that appears to have been a less serious relationship before Jen), Jennifer is a clever clogs like Hank, and even more feisty.
Hank remarks multiple times that if it hadn't been for his choice to join the X-Men, he likely would have stayed with Jen for the rest of his life, and I can see it. In a world where Hank didn't go with the X-Men, he lives a quiet, happy life with Jen in Illinois. Maybe he wins a Nobel Prize for biophysics. They have kids. They're good.
But, instead, Xavier wipes her mind of Hank's existence, and it shifts her entire world's axis - she commits her genius to the task of working out what the gap in his mind is, and becomes an expert in the field of techno-organic cybernetics.
As you do.
They find each other again. They have their moments together. And then, because Hank is a superhero, and they live dangerous lives, and Jen is reckless enough to get involved in dangerous endeavours to try and work out what was stolen from her, she nearly dies.
Nearly.
Hank and Jen are incredibly compatible, to be honest. They're a great match, and it's interesting to compare her to Vera, who is identified as a librarian, an 'intelligent' profession, but whom Hank seems disinterested in, whereas Jen, who is explicitly on Hank's level, enraptures him, and in the end, he's forced to let her go for her safety.
In the end, Hank doesn't want someone who'll just hold his hand, he wants someone who can challenge him intellectually, someone who will hold him to account, who can match his wit, and Vera . . . can't.
Not really.
It's partly a foible of when they met, partly a case of Vera being who she is and Hank who he is, but in the end, it all comes down to how Vera reacted when she received those flowers and poetry. She folded. She was charmed. She fell for Hank's charming exterior. And that's. Kinda. Not interesting to him? I don't even think he realises that's what's going on, but it is what happened. She showed him that she would put up with his shenanigans, and that's not what Hank wants. Not really.
You could almost see it as a game that Hank plays, a challenge to see if you can scratch the surface and get at who he really is, under the surface, if you're dedicated to getting at him. Maybe that's unfair of him to do, but again, I don't think it's something he even realises he's doing. He has walls up for a reason, and if you break through them, then you clearly want him - he can believe that, because you just fought him, to get to him. It all comes back to that insecurity . . .
It's also worth noting here that Hank and Jen have another encounter in X-Men Unlimited vol. 2 #10, in a way that contradicts Marvel Presents. It's hard to reconcile, since she remembers Hank here when she shouldn't, but I like both stories too much to really fight over which one I have as canon, so I kinda just don't think about it too much.
"What would you think of me if I was to tell you how terrified I am of everything right now?"
"You've never been scared of anything in your life. I think we should both be brave and go take a look at what might be hiding in the cemetery."
That touch, that tenderness . . . ouahhghhhh . . . the timelines are screwy, and these are all written years apart from one another, but I do think it's significant that Hank spends entire issues of Amazing Adventures and Incredible Hulk hiding his beastly appearance from Vera under a mask, and yet, he willingly unwraps his bandages for Jen.
I think that tells you all about how willing he is to be his true self around Jen versus Vera. Hank literally says he doesn't know who he is sometimes around Vera, and she tells him, I'll help you find out if you let me. Helpful, but it doesn't fix the problem. Meanwhile, Hank is in the midst of the worst depression and fear of his life, reeling from his worst ever mistake, and Jen tells him that she'll be brave with him, and they'll confront the unknown together. He finds catharsis that way. Vera is supportive. Jennifer is proactive. Hank appreciates both, of course, but only through one can he achieve growth.
But, that's no real surprise, because . . . she's the one who tells him this, too . . .
Jennifer Nyles, you have, like, 9 appearances in all of Marvel Comics, but I would die for you. Genuinely one of the most influential characters in Hank's life, tbh.
. . . SPEAKING OF INFLUENTIAL CHARACTERS.
So . . . in the interests of a fair analysis, Trish is an interesting character. She believes in transparency, the democratisation of information, she is eminently heroic, she is self-sacrificing, she is intelligent, and she is strong.
You can see why Hank would be attracted to her. She can cut through the flip attitude and get at the Hank underneath. If we're going with the theory that Hank is playing keep away with his real feelings so that the only people who get close to him are the people who work to get there and he can believe that they're there for him, then Trish will succeed, because she'll put in the work.
But, the problem is, the Hank she met was human Hank, and even though she claims not to have a problem with the fur - and maybe, at this point, she doesn't! - we know that Hank's mutation becomes a problem for her.
Man, if I had a penny for every time I posted these panels, I wouldn't have to work.
But. In the interests of fairness. I have to point out that the problem here is not that Trish found it hard to get used to Hank's changing face - I've talked about this before, that it's understandable it would become an issue for her, in a romantic relationship, faces and bodies and the tangible aspects of a person are more important than ever - but that she thought this was in any way an acceptable way to do it.
Trish's insecurity made her lash out and 'fix' the problem in a way that saved her career and severed the tie that would drag her down. That is. An understandable reaction. It's hurtful, but in the end, she's prioritising herself, and that's. Understandable. That being said?
She had no fucking right to even try this.
Like. No??? You don't get to do this??? Fuck off??? You exited from his life in a way that saved your career and your reputation, you do not get to try and dip back in because you feel bad - and, I'm going to be incredibly fucking honest, that's if that's even the reason she's doing it. I suspect, maybe maliciously, but maybe not, that she had ulterior motives, because of past behaviour.
Because do you want to know what the worst thing Trish Tilby ever actually did was?
Meet Dennis Hogan. He is a mutant. His power is to look like a lizard. That's it. He also was infected by the Legacy Virus, making him incapable of controlling those transformations. He is a perfectly harmless, innocent young man, who is trying to find medical help for a disease that he had no way of avoiding contracting.
Trish Tilby is directly responsible for his death in a hate crime.
And Trish's response, when Hank brings this up?
Just throw the whole fucking woman out. She's septic garbage.
How does this reflect on Hank? It reflects badly that he ever took her back after this. After she sold out his fucking race, got an innocent man killed, deflected blame, physically assaulted her partner, and acted as if she, somehow, were the wronged party in this.
"If you were doing your job as well as I'm doing mine, there'd be one less dead mutant to mourn!"
Hank is currently working on a cure for the Legacy Virus, Patricia. Thank you for implying that he's not doing enough, while you sit around, hocking news stories that will tangibly improve your position at your job, that directly lead to hate crimes, because you have decided that people just NEED TO KNOW things that will make them act irresponsibly, hatefully, and cruelly.
Yes, there is such a thing as freedom of the press. There is such a thing as the democratisation of information.
And then there's this asshole, who was storming into Angel's hospital room with a camera, recording him with his ruined wings, chasing a story because it was the right thing to do, and damn the consequences.
Who cares who gets hurt, so long as Patricia Tilby gets her story?
It reflects badly on Hank that he ever went out with her. it reflects badly on Hank that he ever took her back. It reflects badly on everyone involved that they didn't have the heart to tell Hank to just fucking NOT.
This is who she is. It's who she's always been, since her first appearance, and it is stark how awful a woman she is.
The X-Men '97 adaptation of her was kind. Think about that for a moment. Think about the fact that turning this woman into a fucking Prime Sentinel couldn't make her do as much damage as she did with her own free will and bad judgement.
. . . Blech.
So, this is an incomplete history, because I've run out of images? Heh. If you want to hear more about Hank's other relationships, most notably Cecilia Reyes, Abigail Brand, and Simon Williams, feel free to send another ask, and I can link them together. Hope you found this informative and not as rambly as it feels.
Also, if I remember correctly, Cerebrocast is gonna do an episode on Trish Tilby soon? I have no intention of listening/watching to it, but keep all of this stuff in mind and see if it gets mentioned when that episode happens. Because that podcast's hate boner for Hank McCoy means I genuinely think they'll find a way to excuse Trish's poor behaviour just because it's Hank. It honestly wouldn't surprise me.
Due to my dedication of keeping this blog professional. I have nothing to say other than he looks great and I wish to see more of Hank in longer hair. But unfortunately, I am still sad about what have become of the character.
X-men (2024) issue #24
As much as I am happy to finally see our original Beast well and alive. I am still bummed to see him becoming a man so different than he once was.
I'm sad to see him so heartless and cruel. And now, sending off people he deems problematic in his plans so easily without hesitation as easy as a slice of cake.
X-men (2024) issue #24 Wolverine (2020) issue #30
As, well... Beast said:
X-men (2024) issue #22
And part of me hoped that perhaps, in an X-men plot fashion. There comes a time that he might be mind wiped to "restart" or inverted in some way and watch as he sees how cruel he has become.
Sure, clone beast have done that. But it would be interesting to see pre Krakoa Hank Mccoy, who once happily embraced Nightcrawler returning from the dead, tightly embracing Logan and promised to find a cure to give him back his healing factor, being kind and patient with children to... Doing a complete opposite and sudden change of morality.
He hated the idea of becoming Dark Beast, and now he is Dark Beast to Clone Beast.
Writers might have forgotten, but I'd like to think that this Mccoy refused to acknowledge that old thought. That or he accepted what he'd become? A cruel, and heartless Beast.
But x-men comics has no end and no permanent story. We'll see in the coming future.
Besides, villains change, original characters get mind wiped, reset, retconed, depending on the writers and how the story goes for the sake of a plot.
Also, where in the world is Abigail Brand in all this? No reaction and communication with Clone Beast? I find it a little too quick for this Mccoy to fancy someone already.
Or at least how I interpreted this and his time with Jen.
Have more long hair, Yeti, wendigo look of Mccoy. It's fascinating to see plenty of his versions, turn his blue fur into a snow white coat.
Or does he change when he's in a cold weather?
That's all. I wonder where this old beast will go in the future.
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Started watchin a fun youtuber x-men nerd Nikhil Clayton react to one of my favorite X-men things, X-men Evolution, so I got inspired to start getting back on my pain in the *** "17 X-men composition".
As an X-men nerd myself, I had to start with the OGs first. If im able too ill show progress of the other sides as well.
Right now Im mostly refining the line art of this sketchy piece a bit since I designed all these outfits an all , gotta set em up for actual coloring XD
Omari/Nocturne has got an official theme song!!!!! I just want to give a special thanks to Cxld3 for helping bringing the song to life. It sounds absolutely amazing, and I love it, and I hope you all love it too!
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The following message will be about a member known from the Wild Kratts Server and Community, Lee. Better known as here on tumblr as leeisfreaky, and on other socials as leeweeds_ and paranixan.
Please be mindful of the topics that will be briefly discussed:
Grooming/Predatory Behaviors, NSFW towards Minors, Sexual Harassment, Gaslighting/Manipulation, Suicidal/Self Harming Tendencies, and Endangering of Others.
Underneath the cut will be a brief summary of the things he has done. Please be mindful of the material that will be discussed, and be mindful of those who were affected. Thank you.
The situation dates back to around 2022-2023 and has gone all the way to the early months of 2026. Lee was a mod within the Wild Kratts server, and was incredibly well known and involved within the community. With his position of power and popularity and influence, Lee was able to contact many members within the server and begin his grooming. More than 15 members, many of which are minors, were to fall victim to his abuse.
To begin, Lee was incredibly manipulative. He was seemingly kind and outgoing, and made himself this pillar that many could rely on for help. However, as many of us had found out, he had bad mouthed everyone behind their backs, feeding lies within friend groups to pit everyone against each other. Lee would take the things that were also said to him in the confidence he’d keep it private, where Lee would soon take the things he’d learned and air it out to those not trusted with said information, and where he’d also use the sensitive information AGAINST the members that had told him in the first place.
Lee was also known to keep making remarks about being similar to a previous abuser within the server, someone he had worked to ban as well. The abuser had been known as BeautyStyle12. The post of her abuse may be found here. He had known of her abuse, and yet would constantly bring up this trauma to those who had been hurt on several occasions, and often equated himself to some of the things she had done. Both victims of that situation had also fallen victim to Lees abuse. One of which is a minor. Lee would continuously bully this minor and play it off as a joke. He would fat shame and guilt trip them for being “annoying”, and would often talk behind their back in how he wishes they had never came here. His remarks about said minor was consistently violent and sexual in nature in some cases, yet he’d be nice to them within DMs where he’d do his grooming behavior of being “a safe place”.
Lee on several occasions has made lewd and nsfw comments towards minors, especially within voice calls, where things could not be recorded down. He would never censor gore on top of this, and had sent this to the minors as well. Lee’s obsession with sex and gore made its way into every single conversation, but he often played it off as a joke and would get upset if anyone was uncomfortable.
Upon blocking Lee initially, we had thought things would be solved and we would have finally be rid of the situation. However, Lee had lied to several of our friends about the situation, saying he was the victim in all of this, and purposefully left out information to make him seem innocent. Lee had told everyone he was “getting help” as well, so all the things he had done wrong would be a thing of the past, but unfortunately, zero progress was made. Luckily we got one of our friends to listen, and he has now helped resolved this issue with Lee.
However, Feather, better known here as FeatherSketch, remained by Lee’s side. The more she learned of the situation, the more she remained on HIS side of things, believing we hadn’t told her anything especially worthy of being as “mean” as we were to him (aka blocking him). She on several occasions tried to info dig on the victims, just to spill the contents to Lee, basically allowing Lee to stay within our lives to continue to hurt us despite having him blocked. We encourage others to stay wary of her and to block her as well, as she has been nothing but incredibly harmful towards this situation. She has already broken no contact on several occasions and continues to play the victim in this situation.
We will be coming forward with a document within the coming weeks with more information about the things Lee and Feather have done, including 100+ screenshots of proof, with over 10+ accounts from members sharing their stories.
Below are the images to their socials:
Please note that this is a very BRIEF summary of everything that has happened.
This is not all, there will be a google document coming out soon, including screenshots and more details in depth.
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