pshew-pshew!

Q: You’re basically watching the devolution of this relationship over the course of some very mundane activities. A - Rhea Seehorn: “Which is sort of sad. It was definitely something that Bob and I reflected on a lot because there’s a sadness to it but there’s also a strange maturity to settling into in those moments where it’s the ennui of having to get on with everyday life because these two characters have so much that they’ve begun to not tell each other about their interior and exterior lives right now that it just is so magnified the separation that they feel. I found myself thinking, oh my God, if they could only, if they would only talk to each other, they really might be able to help. But neither one can fully express what’s going on. And in my opinion both think it’s to help the other one. They both think that they’re doing the right thing to not lay their troubles on the other person, you know? And yet they’re wrong. They’d be better off if they did for better or for worse, to be able to just honestly say like, Hey, I’m actually completely losing my shit at work or my guilt is consuming me or I don’t know what’s happening, but I started wearing jogging suits and selling phones in a parking lot. No matter what happened, they wouldn’t be so alone in their thoughts.”

Q: Why do you think they can’t open up to each other? A: “It’s a good question. I felt and played throughout the season for Kim that was already a pretty seriously private person who does not really like admitting vulnerability and just as she started to really have one person that she would do that with Jimmy, she had some guilt about Mesa Verde being ill-gotten gains. She’s not a talk about your feelings kind of person. If anything, Jimmy is the more emotionally talkative person. She’s very project/solution oriented. And the two times she tried, Jimmy can’t discuss it or won’t discuss it. There’s this idea in Kim’s mind that Jimmy is in a state of a very difficult grief / shock and she’s unsure of exactly what’s going on with him. But I feel like someone like her in that moment would believe that she needs to be the strong one, do not put your problems on him right now. And I think a lot of people would understand that feeling. There’s moments in life where things are not going well for you, but your friend or partner, you think it’s so much worse for them that you daren’t lay your s–t on their door too. So I’m not sure how Bob feels. I’m sure there’s got to be a degree of fear for a character like Jimmy to tell Kim everything he is up to and I suppose it would be terrifying too because what if she said like, I understand everything that’s going on, but you need to not act on those impulses. There’s some part of him that clearly needs to act on those impulses.”

Little animated gifs I made of the Better Call Saul gang!