Has anyone told Elia fans that they can hate Rhaegar without being oddly pedophilic about Lyanna?
I mean, the way they talk about Lyanna, you would think she was a slutty homewrecker who kidnapped Rhaegar from his ever loving home and family and not a 14 year old who was legitimately kidnapped and assaulted to bear a child.
This about being fiction aside, I am concerned by how many people think a KID is capable of wanting and initiate a sexual relationship with an adult and act like the kid also has a "responsibility" to bear in this scenario.
Because the shippers need Lyanna to be their wise to world nymphet where butter doesn't melt in her mouth and yet she gets a crown and a king and seven kingdoms that bow down scrap at her feet.
Like the worst, like show level, bottom of a barrel, interpretation where Lyanna is happy to shove Elia and her children aside to get married on front of a septon in reject Reacher ware.
She doesn't want her family dead. She doesn't want her people dead. She doesn't want anyone dead and everyone gets dead while she is locked up and pregnant under armed guard.
Like whatever and whoever Lyanna Stark was, Rhaegar had one single purpose in his mind and her consent was not needed.
A love affair doesn't need months spent away in Dorne while Westeros burns. A ruined maidenhead isn't worth a war. Scandal and songs yes?
But Rickard Stark could always demand his daughter back.
Rhaegar had other intentions.
(And yes, Lyanna throwing a fit over the idea of Mya Stone but expecting Elia Martell to swallow and support a new little Northern Blackfyre is hypocrisy.
That doesn't leave anyone dead.
And neither obligates anyone).
You're arguing against a fanfic. What happens in alternate universes where Lyanna and Rhaegar survive is irrelevant. They both have to die for Dany's and Jon's stories (you know, two of ASOIAF's protagonists) to happen.So you're basically having a meltdown over fan-written alternate universes where "the mistress" wins. Go touch grass, get a job, I don't know.And "nymphet" is an openly misogynistic term.
No, I am arguing at the fandom hypocrisy that shreds and shits the actual canon because they want to ship a young girl with her kidnapper and groomer because they get hot under the collar for a silver prince, but don't have the decency admit.
Rather they flip flop more than a dying trout and engage in more illogical absurdity while trying to claim the high moral ground and failing miserable.
Sorry. I am not the one making claims that a grown, married man 'falling in love' and fucking a teenage girl is meant to be the height of romance.
The original post was simply a fan defending Lyanna, not claiming that she and Rhaegar are some great love story. Honestly, I think Rhaelya would be less popular if the haters simply ignored them. I know plenty of fans who started defending them out of sheer spite because of how over-the-top certain parts of the fandom reacted to them, to the point of dragging them into discussions that have nothing to do with R/L.
It's ridiculous to talk about "distorting the canon" when we don't even have the full official story yet, especially when you're relying on hypotheticals: "If Elia had survived, she wouldn't have had to accept..."; "If Lyanna had married Robert, and he had suddenly developed a desire to care for his bastard children (something completely absent from canon), Lyanna wouldn't have accepted..." None of that is canonâit's all speculation, because these characters were created to die.
If you're upset about the popularity of a fictional character you don't like, you should take it up with the author. He's the one who chose to give Lyanna prominence instead of "Saint Elia." He's the one who made Jon Lyanna's son. He's the one who centered much of the story on the Starks and the Targaryens.
And I don't claim any moral superiority, because to me these are just fictional characters. The whole MadonnaâWhore complex on your side of the fandom is what actually irritated people enough to start defending Lyanna, who wasn't nearly as popular ten years ago.














