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concept art ig of a fic idea titled ‘in which he runs naked thru a thorny wood for like three days and finds a cool stick’
The first time Aku met and fought Jack—and for the next few millennia while he waited for Jack to reappear—I don't think Aku considered Jack his nemesis.
I think Aku considered Jack the son of his nemesis—the nemesis whom Aku had already defeated, humiliated, and watched die. This kid playing with daddy's sword is just a loose end Aku needs to clean up. Sure, Aku still doesn't wanna get stabbed by that thing, but Jack isn't the real threat; he's just an echo of the threat.
And then Jack showed up, mowed his way through an entire army of beetle bots, and went on to systematically dismember every single threat Aku threw at him, and Aku went "...ah."
“if you love this character then you must make him happy in your fics, right?” wrong. the horror. suffering. internal hemorrhage. hospital. immediately
drew this instead of everything else i was supposed to draw,, blaming @samuraijacksoff for making me think about ✨hair✨

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lil jack doodle becuz # i love that man
sorry to write under your delightful art however
🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝 literally any excuse lmao
what do u think the thousands of guests did at jacks wedding after ashi dissipated in front of them
still ate dinner
went home
funeral
something else (please lmk)
imagine waiting in line to see ashi at jack's impromptu funeral and dinner and she is gone by the time u get there i would be soooo hungry omg
@samuraijacksoff my jaku smutfic about aku's wall-climbing obsession if you're interested <3
ohhh this is a delightful read i just adore the theatrics and prose writing its so operatic🫶thank u so much for sharing i loooove ur aku he is written wonderfully i love bodice rippers so much🥺
yippee yippeee i'm so glad!!!! 🥰🥰 thank you eeeee
@samuraijacksoff my jaku smutfic about aku's wall-climbing obsession if you're interested <3
@hauntedpersonguy don't want to derail The Thread but i need you to know aku's sword kink™ is my bread and butter.
masochist aku who is transfixed by the sword and doesn't understand why. masochist aku who finds himself wondering what the killing blow would feel like, not in a suicidal ideation way, in a very horny purely sensory way. masochist aku whose fantasies drift to all the times that blade has sliced him, and exactly how it felt, and what if the samurai did it again but this way, or aku was in that position, would it feel different, etc etc etc. and of course it's not just the sword, it's specifically how jack wields it, his Style. the callouses on his hands, the shoulder pain he learns to tune out. one time (alone in his lair on a friday night) aku's casually watching his evil window of world-viewing and catches jack practicing his sword art. forget catching the samurai jerkin it, this is what does it for aku. the silvery, supernatural sheen of the blade. the Sound of it. when i say the mere recollection of it would make aku crosseyed!!!!! and this newfound desire only makes aku more terrifying in a fight!!!!!! the ecstatic sensation of changing shape at lightning speed, becoming ten thousand spears, becoming a flame, and Knowing he's being matched strike for strike by his one true partner in the blood-dance <333 dreamy sigh

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like nsfw but i lowkey interpret aku as a sub top ngl primarily bc hes lazy. and his holes r trash like boo we hate ur pussy. i think dom top is a valid interpretation and i do not claim aversion to it bc it has a home in my heart but hes a queen to me. idk. anyways😊✨🌷🌈🍃🐝🌸
oh that's interesting. i sorta disagree but like in a way where i can see where you're coming from and wonder if we actually agree.
Sorry for the very long post in reply to your three-sentence casual opinion, I got too into the topic.
i love ur essay it's so thorough and in depth and genuinely rly great at elaborating on these concepts and i am so sorry for the bluntness of what im abt to say but i interpreted aku as a top bc im into tentacle stuff
but yes, absolutely i agree with ur definitions of top/bottom and dom/sub that is the same framework i based my ideas from
honestly the sub stuff for me came from things such as the character lord of darkness from the 1985 film legend, as well as the phantom of the opera. while they can be interpreted as dom, its the hopelessness of their obsession and the lengths that they go to serve someone which i rly love. more examples of inspiration are the opera bluebeard's castle, the novel jane eyre by charlotte brontë, the film dragonwyck with vincent price. i am huge on gothic literature and film so my interpretation of his character comes from these gothic tropes i am very much in love with. this even extends to include richard the iii by william shakespeare, when he proposes to lady anne and he manipulates her with this false vulnerability as he is on his knees begging her to stab him while proclaiming he killed her husband and caused her this unbearable grief because he loves her. its rly his manipulation and obsession which i am playing on when i interpret him as a sub. he is not performing tasks of submission in a traditional bdsm scene so much as he is desperate for attention and actively makes the other person's life worse by these acts of wanting. i think me saying he is a sub is more closely related to a 'brat', someone who pushes someone on purpose and is then faced with the consequences of it because thats the fun of it. he is something like a cat that bites and scratches but then on their own terms is clingy and begging for attention. i think that he can very much be both dom/sub as a switch and i love him completely either way.
but lastly i think that i advocate for sub because it's the subversion of aku's character, it is easy to look at him and interpret him as a dom and that is why it will always have a place in my heart and why i love him in that way as well. so him being a sub i think it offers an exploration to his character and how he is able to feel pain in addition to his manipulation and obsession. bc the sword is the only thing which genuinely harms him so this may be something which is entirely new for someone who otherwise has everything and can do anything
anyways thank u so very much for ur reply this is genuinely a rly fun discussion and i am glad to have been able to read ur side into it and to be able to further elaborate on how i see him 🫶 sorry i shouldv specified jaku in the beginning bc i said this originally with jaku in mind, not counting for other possible characters
i interpreted aku as a top bc im into tentacle stuff
you are the most valid person to ever exist
LOVED reading your reply !!!! more thoughts below, i love this mile long thread <3
like petplay but the "pet" is a strange wolf you found standing in your kitchen one morning after it broke in through the doggy door and you can't get it to leave. character dynamic where one character's wearing a collar and the other character's got the leash but the "collar" is just a string tied in a simple bow you can undo with one tug and the "leash" is a handcuff locked around the alleged master's wrist.
this is a VERY good analogy !!!! its very eloquently written and absolutely perfect for the idea of subbing that i had wanted to express but lacked the eloquence for. just absolutely love this paragraph thank you so much for sharing this <3
the flinging himself utterly at someone else's feet to the point it's pathetic, anything to get what he wants... but if he doesn't get what he wants, that patheticness can turn dangerous very fast. lotta overlap with the yandere archetype
this is a rly great paragraph and i cannot believe completely forgot abt the labyrinth film which i love so i rly love that you brought it up because that is a very good quote!! and also the yandere archetype, i did want to bring that up initially but i abstained because iv actually never read a yandere-specific story that i enjoyed, as well as it being a controversial kinda topic to some ppl, however i do very much acknowledge overlap and think that it is interesting and worth exploring for some characters/stories.
if aku's all cool and commanding and jack's just his helpless toy who idk develops stockholm syndrome or something, then i don't care!! make the ruler of the world beg!
absolutely abbbsoluuutely and this is unrelated but one favorite films of all time is misery 1990, based on the novel by stephen king and what is so compelling about this particular film is not the stockholm syndrome but it's the push and pull conflict between the two characters. like ur not singularly watching a man get his leg broken by a person who is nuts, ur watching the rise and fall of a man's hope and the writing of a novel he is forced to write as his an anchor to his sanity and the escalation of madness by wilkes and that is more valuable to me than a dark romance which promises such things but fails completely at this level of storytelling even though it's a very basic story on the surface it has a continually gorgeous push and pull and interior to its writing. in both the novel and the film, i love both equally. like im sorry this is unrelated rambling but that is also what i am applying to aku in my daydreams, a push and pull conflict rather than a singular fetishization
"extremely feared powerful in-control character undone by an obsessive need that knocks them off their throne and on their knees before the object of their overwhelming desire" is a top tier character trope to me.
yes this trope is SO GOOD🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️and thats why i just had to mention lord of darkness from legend 1985, specifically the goldsmith cut of the film because he is pathetticcccc its sooo good 🙂↕️🤝🤝🤝🤝
I've got a friend (who i Will be linking this conversation to) who refers to The Sub Aku Experience as "master in the streets mastered in the sheets." it's about that contrast.
real meets real, the contrast is literally so important
hello yes i am The Friend :) exemplary akuposting going on here. honestly so exemplary i am simply nodding in agreement. i have no skin in the 'aku's canon top/bottom dom/sub alignment' game because i agree, he would be the dominant partner. outside matches inside, master of the sheets, nothing to see here.
however
oh i absolutely just adore the concept of oiron aku that is sincerely such a clever utilization of his character i am going nuuuutss and what is so cool about it i think is your description and inspiration of historical japan, that is such a beautiful contrast to aku's futurism while being so neatly tied into jack's sensibilities wowww🫶 i will be waiting patiently for ur art series bc that is amazinggg💕
i genuinely love how much discussion came from this silly post that i made without thinking abt anything in particular, i love the expansiveness of samjack and its interpretations and adaptations by fans still being so fresh and clever after 25 years im soo grateful for this thread fr🫶
yippee me too me too :) samjack fandom is so tiny, it's always a delight to find like-minded fans!!
it's maybe not canon at all but i do see both jack and aku as beings 'out of time'. i like to place aku's roots (harhar) strongly in historical japan, because if i do that, then they have this incredibly rich shared culture that they both yearn for in their own ways and can never describe to anyone else. and also i can get super niche with it lmao.
i have a bit of an unrelated question. are you perhaps familiar with the sondheim stage play pacific overtures? its alright if you aren't, i just got reminded of it and its original broadway cast stars aku's voice actor mako as narrator and shogun, he has particularly gorgeous voice work in this production and even speaks a few japanese lines 🫣
while i know very little japanese, i absolutely adore the video you provided she is a very skilled artist, i can absolutely imagine aku speaking in that stylization. and i am very interested in watching the film sakuran thank u so very much for sharing !!!🫶
and lastly i agree completely with aku and jack having been born from the same time, its kinda easy to forget that with aku's industrialism but thats such an incredible string that ties them together and a fascinating exploration of aku's character:)
watching the 1976 pacific overtures right now on your suggestion and i'm enjoying it very much :) i hope you enjoy my recs in return, though no pressure 🖤❤️💚
like nsfw but i lowkey interpret aku as a sub top ngl primarily bc hes lazy. and his holes r trash like boo we hate ur pussy. i think dom top is a valid interpretation and i do not claim aversion to it bc it has a home in my heart but hes a queen to me. idk. anyways😊✨🌷🌈🍃🐝🌸
oh that's interesting. i sorta disagree but like in a way where i can see where you're coming from and wonder if we actually agree.
Sorry for the very long post in reply to your three-sentence casual opinion, I got too into the topic.
i love ur essay it's so thorough and in depth and genuinely rly great at elaborating on these concepts and i am so sorry for the bluntness of what im abt to say but i interpreted aku as a top bc im into tentacle stuff
but yes, absolutely i agree with ur definitions of top/bottom and dom/sub that is the same framework i based my ideas from
honestly the sub stuff for me came from things such as the character lord of darkness from the 1985 film legend, as well as the phantom of the opera. while they can be interpreted as dom, its the hopelessness of their obsession and the lengths that they go to serve someone which i rly love. more examples of inspiration are the opera bluebeard's castle, the novel jane eyre by charlotte brontë, the film dragonwyck with vincent price. i am huge on gothic literature and film so my interpretation of his character comes from these gothic tropes i am very much in love with. this even extends to include richard the iii by william shakespeare, when he proposes to lady anne and he manipulates her with this false vulnerability as he is on his knees begging her to stab him while proclaiming he killed her husband and caused her this unbearable grief because he loves her. its rly his manipulation and obsession which i am playing on when i interpret him as a sub. he is not performing tasks of submission in a traditional bdsm scene so much as he is desperate for attention and actively makes the other person's life worse by these acts of wanting. i think me saying he is a sub is more closely related to a 'brat', someone who pushes someone on purpose and is then faced with the consequences of it because thats the fun of it. he is something like a cat that bites and scratches but then on their own terms is clingy and begging for attention. i think that he can very much be both dom/sub as a switch and i love him completely either way.
but lastly i think that i advocate for sub because it's the subversion of aku's character, it is easy to look at him and interpret him as a dom and that is why it will always have a place in my heart and why i love him in that way as well. so him being a sub i think it offers an exploration to his character and how he is able to feel pain in addition to his manipulation and obsession. bc the sword is the only thing which genuinely harms him so this may be something which is entirely new for someone who otherwise has everything and can do anything
anyways thank u so very much for ur reply this is genuinely a rly fun discussion and i am glad to have been able to read ur side into it and to be able to further elaborate on how i see him 🫶 sorry i shouldv specified jaku in the beginning bc i said this originally with jaku in mind, not counting for other possible characters
i interpreted aku as a top bc im into tentacle stuff
you are the most valid person to ever exist
LOVED reading your reply !!!! more thoughts below, i love this mile long thread <3
like petplay but the "pet" is a strange wolf you found standing in your kitchen one morning after it broke in through the doggy door and you can't get it to leave. character dynamic where one character's wearing a collar and the other character's got the leash but the "collar" is just a string tied in a simple bow you can undo with one tug and the "leash" is a handcuff locked around the alleged master's wrist.
this is a VERY good analogy !!!! its very eloquently written and absolutely perfect for the idea of subbing that i had wanted to express but lacked the eloquence for. just absolutely love this paragraph thank you so much for sharing this <3
the flinging himself utterly at someone else's feet to the point it's pathetic, anything to get what he wants... but if he doesn't get what he wants, that patheticness can turn dangerous very fast. lotta overlap with the yandere archetype
this is a rly great paragraph and i cannot believe completely forgot abt the labyrinth film which i love so i rly love that you brought it up because that is a very good quote!! and also the yandere archetype, i did want to bring that up initially but i abstained because iv actually never read a yandere-specific story that i enjoyed, as well as it being a controversial kinda topic to some ppl, however i do very much acknowledge overlap and think that it is interesting and worth exploring for some characters/stories.
if aku's all cool and commanding and jack's just his helpless toy who idk develops stockholm syndrome or something, then i don't care!! make the ruler of the world beg!
absolutely abbbsoluuutely and this is unrelated but one favorite films of all time is misery 1990, based on the novel by stephen king and what is so compelling about this particular film is not the stockholm syndrome but it's the push and pull conflict between the two characters. like ur not singularly watching a man get his leg broken by a person who is nuts, ur watching the rise and fall of a man's hope and the writing of a novel he is forced to write as his an anchor to his sanity and the escalation of madness by wilkes and that is more valuable to me than a dark romance which promises such things but fails completely at this level of storytelling even though it's a very basic story on the surface it has a continually gorgeous push and pull and interior to its writing. in both the novel and the film, i love both equally. like im sorry this is unrelated rambling but that is also what i am applying to aku in my daydreams, a push and pull conflict rather than a singular fetishization
"extremely feared powerful in-control character undone by an obsessive need that knocks them off their throne and on their knees before the object of their overwhelming desire" is a top tier character trope to me.
yes this trope is SO GOOD🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️and thats why i just had to mention lord of darkness from legend 1985, specifically the goldsmith cut of the film because he is pathetticcccc its sooo good 🙂↕️🤝🤝🤝🤝
I've got a friend (who i Will be linking this conversation to) who refers to The Sub Aku Experience as "master in the streets mastered in the sheets." it's about that contrast.
real meets real, the contrast is literally so important
hello yes i am The Friend :) exemplary akuposting going on here. honestly so exemplary i am simply nodding in agreement. i have no skin in the 'aku's canon top/bottom dom/sub alignment' game because i agree, he would be the dominant partner. outside matches inside, master of the sheets, nothing to see here.
however
oh i absolutely just adore the concept of oiron aku that is sincerely such a clever utilization of his character i am going nuuuutss and what is so cool about it i think is your description and inspiration of historical japan, that is such a beautiful contrast to aku's futurism while being so neatly tied into jack's sensibilities wowww🫶 i will be waiting patiently for ur art series bc that is amazinggg💕
i genuinely love how much discussion came from this silly post that i made without thinking abt anything in particular, i love the expansiveness of samjack and its interpretations and adaptations by fans still being so fresh and clever after 25 years im soo grateful for this thread fr🫶
yippee me too me too :) samjack fandom is so tiny, it's always a delight to find like-minded fans!!
it's maybe not canon at all but i do see both jack and aku as beings 'out of time'. i like to place aku's roots (harhar) strongly in historical japan, because if i do that, then they have this incredibly rich shared culture that they both yearn for in their own ways and can never describe to anyone else. and also i can get super niche with it lmao.
like nsfw but i lowkey interpret aku as a sub top ngl primarily bc hes lazy. and his holes r trash like boo we hate ur pussy. i think dom top is a valid interpretation and i do not claim aversion to it bc it has a home in my heart but hes a queen to me. idk. anyways😊✨🌷🌈🍃🐝🌸
oh that's interesting. i sorta disagree but like in a way where i can see where you're coming from and wonder if we actually agree.
Sorry for the very long post in reply to your three-sentence casual opinion, I got too into the topic.
i love ur essay it's so thorough and in depth and genuinely rly great at elaborating on these concepts and i am so sorry for the bluntness of what im abt to say but i interpreted aku as a top bc im into tentacle stuff
but yes, absolutely i agree with ur definitions of top/bottom and dom/sub that is the same framework i based my ideas from
honestly the sub stuff for me came from things such as the character lord of darkness from the 1985 film legend, as well as the phantom of the opera. while they can be interpreted as dom, its the hopelessness of their obsession and the lengths that they go to serve someone which i rly love. more examples of inspiration are the opera bluebeard's castle, the novel jane eyre by charlotte brontë, the film dragonwyck with vincent price. i am huge on gothic literature and film so my interpretation of his character comes from these gothic tropes i am very much in love with. this even extends to include richard the iii by william shakespeare, when he proposes to lady anne and he manipulates her with this false vulnerability as he is on his knees begging her to stab him while proclaiming he killed her husband and caused her this unbearable grief because he loves her. its rly his manipulation and obsession which i am playing on when i interpret him as a sub. he is not performing tasks of submission in a traditional bdsm scene so much as he is desperate for attention and actively makes the other person's life worse by these acts of wanting. i think me saying he is a sub is more closely related to a 'brat', someone who pushes someone on purpose and is then faced with the consequences of it because thats the fun of it. he is something like a cat that bites and scratches but then on their own terms is clingy and begging for attention. i think that he can very much be both dom/sub as a switch and i love him completely either way.
but lastly i think that i advocate for sub because it's the subversion of aku's character, it is easy to look at him and interpret him as a dom and that is why it will always have a place in my heart and why i love him in that way as well. so him being a sub i think it offers an exploration to his character and how he is able to feel pain in addition to his manipulation and obsession. bc the sword is the only thing which genuinely harms him so this may be something which is entirely new for someone who otherwise has everything and can do anything
anyways thank u so very much for ur reply this is genuinely a rly fun discussion and i am glad to have been able to read ur side into it and to be able to further elaborate on how i see him 🫶 sorry i shouldv specified jaku in the beginning bc i said this originally with jaku in mind, not counting for other possible characters
i interpreted aku as a top bc im into tentacle stuff
you are the most valid person to ever exist
LOVED reading your reply !!!! more thoughts below, i love this mile long thread <3
like petplay but the "pet" is a strange wolf you found standing in your kitchen one morning after it broke in through the doggy door and you can't get it to leave. character dynamic where one character's wearing a collar and the other character's got the leash but the "collar" is just a string tied in a simple bow you can undo with one tug and the "leash" is a handcuff locked around the alleged master's wrist.
this is a VERY good analogy !!!! its very eloquently written and absolutely perfect for the idea of subbing that i had wanted to express but lacked the eloquence for. just absolutely love this paragraph thank you so much for sharing this <3
the flinging himself utterly at someone else's feet to the point it's pathetic, anything to get what he wants... but if he doesn't get what he wants, that patheticness can turn dangerous very fast. lotta overlap with the yandere archetype
this is a rly great paragraph and i cannot believe completely forgot abt the labyrinth film which i love so i rly love that you brought it up because that is a very good quote!! and also the yandere archetype, i did want to bring that up initially but i abstained because iv actually never read a yandere-specific story that i enjoyed, as well as it being a controversial kinda topic to some ppl, however i do very much acknowledge overlap and think that it is interesting and worth exploring for some characters/stories.
if aku's all cool and commanding and jack's just his helpless toy who idk develops stockholm syndrome or something, then i don't care!! make the ruler of the world beg!
absolutely abbbsoluuutely and this is unrelated but one favorite films of all time is misery 1990, based on the novel by stephen king and what is so compelling about this particular film is not the stockholm syndrome but it's the push and pull conflict between the two characters. like ur not singularly watching a man get his leg broken by a person who is nuts, ur watching the rise and fall of a man's hope and the writing of a novel he is forced to write as his an anchor to his sanity and the escalation of madness by wilkes and that is more valuable to me than a dark romance which promises such things but fails completely at this level of storytelling even though it's a very basic story on the surface it has a continually gorgeous push and pull and interior to its writing. in both the novel and the film, i love both equally. like im sorry this is unrelated rambling but that is also what i am applying to aku in my daydreams, a push and pull conflict rather than a singular fetishization
"extremely feared powerful in-control character undone by an obsessive need that knocks them off their throne and on their knees before the object of their overwhelming desire" is a top tier character trope to me.
yes this trope is SO GOOD🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️and thats why i just had to mention lord of darkness from legend 1985, specifically the goldsmith cut of the film because he is pathetticcccc its sooo good 🙂↕️🤝🤝🤝🤝
I've got a friend (who i Will be linking this conversation to) who refers to The Sub Aku Experience as "master in the streets mastered in the sheets." it's about that contrast.
real meets real, the contrast is literally so important
hello yes i am The Friend :) exemplary akuposting going on here. honestly so exemplary i am simply nodding in agreement. i have no skin in the 'aku's canon top/bottom dom/sub alignment' game because i agree, he would be the dominant partner. outside matches inside, master of the sheets, nothing to see here.
however
ohh no, this reminds me of a message exchange I had with someone today (shoutout to you for lowkey helping me find a friend?) I was thinking about him being half naked. If Aku knows that Jack is half naked...? Does he know his enemy is running around half naked. (Does Jack... Himself know? Maybe he gets the sensory ick for the inner layers of a kimono or smth)
like,, jack did grow up in japan. he was eight years old when aku attacked. an eight-year-old knows what underwear is. a three-year-old knows what underwear is.
my headcanon is it's some made-up ritualistic thing that only exists in his universe—purity and humility represented by a minimal covering of undyed unadorned fabric; as befitting his quest to destroy evil itself, he is armed not with a weapon made of natural steel but rather made of spiritual virtue, and he is armored not with a suit of iron but with a robe of RIGHTEOUSNESS. so until his quest is over he's got to wear this outfit, like, symbolically.
i have this headcanon because there's no other damn reason he'd be dressed like that.
my headcanon is also that aku thinks he looks like he's in his underwear
Thinking of a scenario post canon where a tree/forest grows at the spot of Aku's old lair and Jack goes to die there when his time comes. Last meal for the long perished pit.
@shogunofyearning this tastes like your flavor
this is Strongly my flavour thank you anon & puff :) personally i take the romantic view that jaku cannot survive without one another Despite Everything, so i love to inflict torture upon that samurai by concluding that after he finally manages to kill aku he's not going to be able to Go On. what that looks like is dependant on the specific au i'm concocting (i have several). generally i'm team Make That Samurai Fall Upon His Sword, usually under some kind of symbolic black tree with red leaves, or under falling white blossom if you want to get all vintage bl about it.
i really like your forest idea anon, and also it's very kind of you to let jack live to old age aha. maybe it takes him a while to get to the forest. these old bones aren't what they used to be, after all. he wouldn't tell anybody at the palace where he was going, and i like to think nobody would ever find his body. isn't it so midcentury samurai film of him to just disappear into the sunset? nobody knows he's stopped for a little rest among the huge, embracing roots of a patch of woodland, where the forest floor is carpeted with red spider lilies like flames in the low autumn light, and the branches cast long, beautiful shadows.

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they're dancing <3
apple blossom
@timelessconundrum i use bright red flowers a lot to represent aku, particularly spider lilies, camellias, & apple blossom, so that's the main one. then there's the aku-shaped menuki in jack's sword hilt, & the kumihimo weave in red & black adorning it. the tenugui tucked into his kimono is aku-vantablack (to get really esoteric, the reverse side, not shown at all, is embroidered with flames) & the plain paper cover of his book is also aku-black. C: