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They are both written to be the worst person ever™ but the message is so different because one of the authors actually has empathy towards people who "aren't deserving of it", mostly because Jax is supposed to be the author's worst parts all clumped up together in bunny form, while Chloé is the incarnation of the author's high school bullies.

Jax is a cautionary tale about reaching out to the hands the people close to you offer you. It's about not repressing oneself, not taking it out on others or you'll end up like her, consumed by it all. Yet the other characters (victims of her abuse) recognize that while everything she did was self inflicted, it really wasn't easy for her. All the internalized transphobia, misogyny, self hatred and abstracting her own actions made the perfect recipe for the worst version of Jax to come out. "Isn't she lovely" No the fuck she isn't, but had she reached out before, she would have been lovely, she would have been wonderful. Her story is tragic! It takes her dying for her to realize that all she's been through and all she's done could've been avoided if she just talked to Pomni/Ribbit/Kaufmo/Ragatha about it.

Chloé, while actually being very similar to Jax, her being a parental abuse victim who takes it out on her classmates and who other people "tried" To reach out to. However when she is punished it's not a "look at the tragedy of this 14 year old who pushed all the people close to her away and now has to stay with her worst abuser", but rather a "Hah! She got what was coming to her, am I right?". She is characterized as stupid, cruel for the sake of being cruel, with the emotional intelligence of a piece of Camembert and spoiled (I won't say she's characterized as a racist because that's just something Astruc said on Twitter and has no basis in the show. As long as it's not said in the show, it's not canon) but they seem to say that she is like that because she likes being like that, not because her parents abused her into being like that.

ok i’ve never posted anything like this before but i haven’t seen anyone talk about this yet and i couldn’t stop thinking about it!!

I wanna talk about Flowery.

Everyone fucking hates Flowery. Why?

Everyone is comparing his reveal to Tenna's, but those circumstances could not be more different in terms of narrative. Tenna is, from the jump, supposed to be light-hearted and fun. He is the personification of the Fun Gang letting loose and having a good time. This is what makes his eventual reveal that he's working with the Knight into an actual betrayal. If we didn't trust Tenna, that moment wouldn't work.

With Flowery, the vibes are rancid from the moment he's revealed. He's charming and charismatic, but something is off. Not to mention that Ralsei absolutely despises him.

So, why make Flowery unlikable? What's the point?

Well, the point is that Flowery is the exact opposite of Tenna.

With Tenna, we like him, but he's wrong.

With Flowery, we hate him, but he's right.

Everything that Flowery does to Asgore is an exact mirror to what Ralsei did with Kris and Susie at the beginning of the game. In fact, the entire chapter is a complete mirror of Chapter 1's dark world!

Flowery gives Asgore a home, gives him friends, tells him that he's special. And yet, we spend the entire chapter trying to get Asgore out of that situation, with the understanding that it's dangerous.

But what about it is dangerous? The denial of reality? Because Susie is now living in a dark world. The exact thing that Asgore gave an entire heartwarming speech about not doing.

When Flowery tells us that we could close Castle Town instead of his dark world and we would be no closer to the Roaring, we hate him because he's right. When he says that all the flowers want is to live and a chance to make Asgore as happy as he's made them, we hate him because he's right.

And, at the end of the chapter, he tries to defeat us with the power of friendship. The other flowers never turn on him. He uses a mercy attack against us, and Kris responds by hitting him with a sword.

And of course they are meme references.

The memes in question: