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When Iâm looking for inspiration for a storyâor when I just need to reacquaint myself with charactersâI rewatch the DCAMU. As one does.
Recently I rewatched Justice League Dark: Apokolips War, and something finally clicked for me during that Damian/Raven scene. Specifically this line:
âWhen I asked you to join me in leading the League of Assassins. I wasnât doing it because you were a good fighter. I⌠had feelings for you.â
Now, I know some of you are already like:
âOh my god, yes, we know. Cute. Peak shipping material. What of it?â
Fair. Valid.
BUT.
Am I really supposed to ignore the fact that Damian phrasing it as âjoin me in leadingâ is not, like⌠a low-key marriage proposal???
And Iâm only being half cheeky here.
So. Letâs break this shit downâbecause itâs fun đŤś
Read my arguments blowđ
What is explicitly canonical in the dialogue
From this scene, we have some very clear, unambiguous canon facts:
Damian asked Raven to join him in leading the League of Assassins
He explicitly states it was not because sheâs a good fighter
He confesses romantic feelings
He frames the request as emotionally vulnerable and deeply personal
Raven understands it as such (her response confirms she clocked the weight of it)
That much is hard canon. No debate there.
Is âjoin me in leadingâ literally a marriage proposal in-text?
Strictly speaking?
No.
The film never uses the words marriage, wife, queen, or bride.
So if someone asks:
âIs this explicitly stated as a marriage proposal in canon?â
The honest answer is:
No, not textually explicit.
But that is not where the conversation endsâand this is where I think my argument actually has teeth.
The cultural context matters (and canon allows for it)
Within League of Assassins canon across DC media, leadership is:
Dynastic
Familial
Intimately tied to bloodline and legacy
Almost always ruled by a pair or family unit, not some casual co-lead situation
(Which I think most of us are aware of.)
So when Damian says:
âWhen I asked you to join me in leading the League of AssassinsâŚâ
He is not saying:
âHey, wanna be my coworker?â
Nah.
He is saying:
âStand beside me at the highest level of power in my world.â
That is functionally spousal, even if itâs not linguistically labeled as such.
Like, homeboy is basically saying:
âCome be my Demon Queen.â
Ballsy.
And we dig it.
Damianâs character specifically strengthens this reading
This part is key.
Damian Wayne:
Does not emote casually
Does not offer vulnerability lightly
Does not share power unless it is earned or bonded
Was raised in a culture where commitment precedes romance, not the other way around
For this character, with this upbringing, that phrasing carries way more weight than it would coming from literally anyone else.
And the fact that he only clarifies his feelings after Raven declines suggests:
He understood the request as profound
He believed the meaning was self-evident
He only spells it out because she didnât fully understand what he was askingâand in the throes of the final hour, he needed her to know what he meant.
Which is.
So.
Fucking.
Cute.
Honestly, I feel like this actually reinforces the interpretation.
If you disagree? Thatâs fine. Weâre just not friends đ
So what is my argument, canonically speaking?
My argument is not:
âDamian canonically proposed marriage.â
But it can be accurately stated as:
âWithin the cultural and narrative framework of the League of Assassins and Damianâs upbringing, asking Raven to âjoin him in leadingâ functions as the emotional and symbolic equivalent of a marriage proposal, even if not textually labeled as such.â
Which is:
Canon-supported
Textually defensible
Character-consistent
Not contradicted anywhere in the DCAMU
In fandom terms:
This is strong implicit canon, not just shipping headcanon.
In conclusion (aka thanks for coming to my TED Talk)
Iâm not claiming Damian said the word marry.
Iâm saying that in the League of Assassins, shared leadership is an intimate, lifelong bond tied to legacy. And given Damianâs upbringing, values, and emotional restraint, asking Raven to rule beside him is functionally equivalent to proposing a shared life together.
Anyway. Thatâs my rant.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talkâ
feel free to scream in the comment section đŤś
I'm shocked that anyone needs to make arguments, because it's such an obvious thing to marriage proposal, like youtube channel Utopia Show explains the obvious facts to everyone(I can't accept that not all people have understood this)(sorry for bad english)
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