Thinking about Lestat having two car related catastrophes this season (almost running over his band while high as a kite, the car crash) and then remembering he was the one who taught Claudia to drive.
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Thinking about Lestat having two car related catastrophes this season (almost running over his band while high as a kite, the car crash) and then remembering he was the one who taught Claudia to drive.

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Been thinking about the final episode of season two.
Louis sets fire to Daniel's laptop thinking he's destroying all evidence of the interview.
Then he leaves Daniel, a frail, sick old man, alone with an incredibly powerful ancient vampire that Daniel's just pissed off.
Louis could have taken Daniel back to the USA with him. But he doesn't.
I don't think Louis ever expected Daniel to get out of that penthouse alive.
The interview was destroyed.
The interviewer was next.
I think Louis left Armand to clean up his mess again and it backfired.
My grand theory (take it with a handful of salt) has always been that
Louis had questions about the past he wanted to find answers to (... and also to pay a whore to sit in a room and talk to him)
Armand didn't want Louis to do the interview
Louis needed an interviewer that Armand wouldn't just kill if he didn't like where it was going (Raglan James says four others have attempted it)
Devil's Minion happened in the 70s-80s
Louis knew Armand was in love with Daniel but couldn't bring himself to turn him
The fact that Daniel had a terminal illness was part of the impetus for the interview
Armand went along with it with the agreement the Louis would turn Daniel for Armand (still don't know what their surprise for Daniel was going to be before Daniel hit them with Armand's trial script)
When Louis left Daniel alone with Armand he was confident that Armand wouldn't hurt (let alone turn) him
This post is great and I like it a lot, so now I'm not sure what I think, but one of the fun things about fandom is the opportunity to hold 2 conflicting readings in your head at the same time and be like ... actually I could see either of these
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Very odd company at the long table.
Really interesting the way Claudia is the only one referred to by name? Calling her "daughter" to match Gabriella's "mommy" (the way Nicky and Antoinette are "hand" and "finger") is so totally obvious that not doing it had to be a deliberate choice
I have sooo many feelings about this episode that I may end up writing about at some point, but for now I just want to say that I am so happy and relieved about how Nicki was written. The way his mental illness was acknowledged and named, the way he was given more agency in his fate (to cut off his own hand!), the way that Lestat felt culpable for his decline and death. The way that Armand wasn't spun as a villain but someone who once again had to clean up a mess, who wanted to help Lestat. The way we felt the full emotional impact of Nicki's death as it played out on Lestat's fate but we didn't see it's horror. The warmth in Lestat and Nicki's first meeting. The way Lestat acknowledged that their love was real. The way that Lestat's little white lies turn from something kind ("your father said he's proud of you") to something worse ("you have typhoid, there are no vampires") but don't lose their gentleness. The way we get little glimpses of their first night together but mostly Lestat guards that scene from Daniel and the audience, like it's something precious. The way that Nicki smiled again as Lestat sung about making peace with the horrors of his death. He burned alone but there's closure. He burned alone but Lestat isn't carrying that by himself anymore.
Nicki is the first disabled character in TVC and he's the first to be shuffled offstage and dispatched without ceremony when his presence impedes the progress of his healthy love interest (a pattern that repeats several more times over the series). This felt like narrative justice to me. I sobbed because I was so sad about Nicki and so happy they got it right. They really really got it right.

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THE VAMPIRE LESTAT | 3.03 "Toronto"
Thinking relentlessly about Louis reading Bruce Claudia's diary, and the way he almost positions it in the moment as the reading of a victim statement as he plays judge, jury and executioner in his trying of her rapist, when it's not a victim's statement. It's still a father reading his daughter's diary, the further theft of her voice and the endless invasion of her privacy. The infantilisation of even her memory, her story already shared with the world via the book without her knowledge or consent, and now here, again, her soul bared to the man who violated her not because she chose to, but because again, Daddy Lou will speak for her, and he wields her words as a weapon by burning Bruce with them, but he also seals them together - Claudia burned with someone who loved her, and now Louis would burn her ghost again with the man who tortured her and call it justice.
How that speaks to the way Lestat frames his own violation in this episode, how he tries to take control of the abuse by controlling how he talks about it, but it doesn't matter, because Louis already told Daniel and it's in the book for the world to read right next to his daughter's assault and it doesn't matter how much he says Magnus isn't his abuser, because Louis' already spoken for him too.
THE CACKLE I CACKLED-
Eight children and eight wolves. Is there something there or did Anne just like the number 8?
There is! The wolfkilling sequence involving eight wolves is symbolic of Lestat's seven siblings and his father, a connection made direct with one of the wolves being older and blind, and Lestat's father going blind in his old age. The violence of the attack is an allegory for the violence within the household, but here, Lestat's able to overcome it and defeat the family in a way that he never actually does in reality. The horse - a mare - Lestat rides is symbolically Gabrielle as well, emphasising her othering within the family - a horse among wolves - but also her connection to Lestat. Lestat's mare is mauled by the wolves to the point where she can't survive, and Lestat's forced to mercy-kill her, which prophesises his turning of Gabrielle on her deathbed.
There's some really great meta about it floating around tumblr if you're able to find it!
This is kind of a little bit of an aside, but one of the things that's especially interesting to me with my own literary analysis hat on is that Lestat specifies that Gabrielle has eight children, and that he's the seventh son, but never if he's the youngest of all the children, or the second youngest. In that, either Lestat had an older sister among all the boys, or that there was another son or daughter born after him that passed. On the surface, that probably doesn't really matter - ultimately Lestat's the youngest one to survive, and even as a third, has no inheritance beyond what his eldest brother, Augustin, may allow him - but personally, I think there's a really compelling reading in there of Lestat's positioning of himself in the family when you consider that historically in both literature and Judeo-Christian religion (and before), the number 7 is symbolic of the 'whole' - spiritual perfection and divine completion.
It took God seven days to create the world, and as a result, seven permeates through religious texts - Job had 7 sons, there are 7 seals for the end of the world, 7 deadly sins, 7 heavenly virtues, 7 gifts of the Holy Spirit.
But it also permeates through fairytales and fiction too. In many of the former, seven was considered the perfect number of children, so there are many seven-children families in fairytales and folklore - Tom Thumb, The Seven Young Kids, The Six Swans (being about the seventh child), etc - but also it was considered to be a symbol of good luck, protection, and, again, completeness. You see this most prominently in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, but it also builds across fiction, from C.S. Lewis to Tolkien.
Of course, Lestat's place as seventh son among eight children though is in many ways usurped by his position as third, as the last of three surviving children, and the rule of three is an ancient principle of storytelling that Anne definitely utilises and does so frequently. Even in TVL, you have that a lot - the three surviving sons, the family units of Lestat, Gabrielle, Nicki, and Lestat, Louis, Claudia, the three fathers in the Marquis, Magnus, and Marius, Lestat's three deaths (Magnus, burning and burying himself after Nicki + his brothers' deaths [a trio themselves, given Lestat finds out about them at the same time], Claudia and Louis killing him), etc.
The rule of three children though carries different weight in storytelling and in history. If fairytales don't have seven children, they usually have three, often taking on a moral fable structure where the two eldest siblings embody sinful or negative traits (i.e. they're greedy, superficial or neglect their parents), with the youngest traditionally being the virtuous hero of the story, but that's really juxtaposed by the fact that the third child traditionally, historically, has had neither power nor priority. I've talked about this a bit on here before, but traditionally your child order came down to 'the heir and the spare', and the third can vary. I've heard it said 'as then one for mum', which carries particular connotations in Lestat's story given Gabrielle does feel he's hers, but also as an anon said to me once, 'the heir, the spare and the mare' is another common expression, articulating the third child as the one to be married out of the family, which also carries connotations with Lestat's relationship to Gabrielle (especially given she's symbolically the mare he has to kill in the wolfkilling sequence), but also as the one raped into another bloodline via Magnus (as Gabrielle was by the Marquis).
There's no way out of being the third child and the youngest with his living siblings, but the ambiguity in his place among the eight, either as seventh or eighth child is just something I find really interesting? This is obviously a personal reading, but I do tend to read him as the last of Gabrielle's pregnancies, and that playing a role in her dynamic with him, but I wonder if for Lestat, as a character who spent time in his childhood in a monastery, within a deeply religious chapter of history, would hold to being seventh rather than eighth? If for a neglected and isolated child, seven would be sacred because it would be a part of a divine whole and not something extraneous. If it would mean completing the family in a way that could offer any sort of comfort, any way that being eighth could not, a justification for not just his existence, but his eternal survival. The number of perfection, for his ever imperfect self, and maybe he knows that beneath it all, he's not at all, that he's an eighth child, that his place in the family is at its frayed edges, and sometimes when he's angry and wounded, that's a good thing, but when he's lonely and alone and frightened, it just makes him feel like nothing at all.
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I think that a great many of Wei Wuxianâs issues with regard to ideas of self and responsibility and sacrifice come from the fact that his position in the Jiang clan and within the Jiang family is this super awkward nebulous zone between âfamilyâ and âdiscipleâ that has no official name and no clear rules governing it.
One the one hand, heâs not officially family, but JFM favors him and treats him better, in a very personal way, than his own son. On the other hand, heâs closer to the family than an ordinary disciple, but YZ treats him worse, in a very personal way, than other disciples. Jiang Yanli and Jiang Cheng obviously love him completely (and he loves them completely), but all of them are constantly aware that heâs not quite family and not quite not-family, and that itâs not a relationship that outsiders are really going to understand.
This is why discussions of âbrothers or notâ donât quite ring true to me. The inability to settle the question is the whole point! Itâs messy! There is constant tension between Wei Wuxianâs official status to the Jiang (talented disciple expected to support the future sect leader) and his multiple emotional roles within the immediate family (doted-upon disciple and creepy emotional surrogate to JFM; loathed source of humiliation and designated punching bag to YZ; unconditionally beloved middle brother to JC and JY).
Because, the thing is, no matter how anybody does or doesnât define it, it is really, truly fucked up to raise a kid in a situation like that.Â
This is a fucked up situation to raise all three kids in, but most especially the kid who has to navigate all that uncertainty from a very young age!Â
No wonder Jiang Yanli grows up valuing peacemaking above all else, to a fault. No wonder Jiang Cheng grows up believing that every second of every day somebody is making a choice between âyou or not youâ and always picking the latter.
And no wonder Wei Wuxianâs default reaction to anything bad happening to the people he loves is âwelp I guess Iâll just sacrifice myself lol.â Because thatâs a role that is easy for him to understand.
i genuinely feel like The Whole Point of Jin Guangyaoâs demise is that it was not justice. in-universe, it did not actually come about because of any of his deeds that we the modern audience would consider the most heinous. Nie Huaisang plotted against him because he killed Nie Mingjue specifically, and⌠like, Mingjue explicitly and with pre-meditation tried to kill Jin Guangyao three separate times, with the novel (my preferred text source) heavily implying he only started playing the evil music after that third time. this could very reasonably be argued to be self-defense.
iâm not necessarily interested in re-litigating which of JGYâs worst acts were, which ones were justified, which ones he maybe didnât do, which ones were okay because they were sexy, how unforgivable any of them are, etc, but i think we can all agree that if he simply avoided killing NMJ, his other deeds would not instantly become fine. so NMJ is not the golden snitch of fucked-upness in his repertoire. it is far from The Worst Thing Heâs Done.
but it is the reason that NHS hunted him.
JGYâs punishment was not about justice on a moral scale, but on a personal scale. (this is a narratively valid reason to destroy someone, btw. JGY clearly did not kill his own father because his dad was a graceless abusive imperialist sex offender and war profiteerer who ordered the slaughter of dozens of innocents and ruined countless lives. he killed JGS because JGS insulted his mother. so while i sincerely believe that NHS wanted personal vengeance, with moral justice being relatively unimportant to him, thatâs not at all meant to be a criticism of him.)
to further cement it, the final blow dealt against JGY was explicitly for a deed he did not do. narratively, it would have been SO EASY to write him making a last desperate attempt to run and getting caught on a sword, or lunging for some final hostage and missing. this would be completely in line with his behaviour leading up to that point: the author created COUNTLESS opportunities for some hero or another to run him through when he was actively scheming and manipulating. but she deliberately didnât.
she deliberately made JGY, a person who had committed so many vile deeds that anyone in the jianghu could accept his execution as just, die an unjust death, slaughtered for something he didnât do.
(do you think the characters cared that JGY had killed some nameless working women, btw? even LXC was more concerned about his scumbag father. that time he slaughtered an entire family of civilians as enrichment for Xue Yang? to the best of my recollection, that wasnât even brought up in the main book. that was just for us.)
iâm making this post because a lot of people have told me point blank that JGY âearnedâ his miserable ending by doing bad shit, that Jiang Cheng/JGY/LXC/whoever the person thinks is an antagonist because they were mean to wangxian were âpunishedâ with horrible fates, and this is how MXTX is codifying who the villains and who the heroes are, and the story is actually explicitly about moral uprightness prevailing over repugnance. and i just think thatâs kind of a lackluster reading for a text thatâs so blatantly explained that in this universe, good or bad things will simply happen to people completely regardless of whether or not itâs fair.
friend izzy points out that in the world of MDZS, âjustice only happens on a personal scaleâ. there is no societal change. there is no large-scale justice. guilt is basically determined whenever some powerful people get in a room together and agree on it. and neither of the protagonists actually bother to change this. WWXâs big heroic stand was to save a village of a few dozen family members and retreat from larger society completely. LWJâs heroic deeds account to literally just vigilantism. and this is good. the Wen ghosts coming out of the blood pool said: that was enough. sizhuiâs whole existence says: protecting a handful of âunimportantâ people for a year was worthwhile.
(XXC, SL, Mianmian etc also just kind of peaced out and wandered around helping people on an individual basis. and since Iâm being petty anyway, Iâll once again throw out the fact that the person who affected the largest-scale positive societal change was in fact JGY, whose watchtowers were repeatedly praised for saving countless civilian lives, by the narration and by WWX himself.)
NHS committed himself to vengeance, neglecting his duties to his sect, killing animals, catching Qin Su in it as collateral, endangering children, desecrating the grave of an innocent woman, traumatising Jin Ling and thrusting him into a massive power vacuum at age 14, and destablising the politics of the entire Jianghu because there was no other way to get the piece of justice he personally needed.
any family member of any of the 3,000 people that Wei Wuxian killed at Nevernight have exactly as much right to do to Wei Wuxian exactly what Huaisang did to Jin Guangyao.
but nobody in this story âgot what they deservedâ. they just got it.
very specific jiang cheng headcanon hill I will die on:
Jiang Cheng is actually furious at Jiang Yanli for dying and leaving him to raise her baby
but he doesnât feel like heâs allowed to even have this emotion let alone ever express it, so he just represses it until it comes out sideways as rage towards their brother instead, whom he is definitely socially allowed to be angry at
how do you think lxc feels about wwx post-show?
oh this is something I have been meaning to play around with and have just, you know, not gotten around to (story of my fucking life. if I had infinite time. too bad I don't) and my answer to it is that I suspect it is, like most things about lan xichen's emotions (particularly post show!), complicated.
on the one hand: his baby brother is happy! his baby brother who spent so much time suffering for this man, and grieving, and hurting - and now he gets his happiness. and absent all other factors I think that is a good thing, and something that, absent all other factors, would please lan xichen very much. he wants the best for his baby brother, and now lan wangji has (exactly) what he wanted. and thatâs because of wei wuxian, so - good.
on the other hand: his baby brotherâs happiness came almost precisely at the cost of lan xichenâs devastation and loss. like...wei wuxianâs return is tied, pretty fuckin directly, to jin guangyaoâs downfall. he kickstarted that avalanche - and on a more personal level he was the bearer of bad news, the one who (yes, along with lan wangji, and thatâs a whole other post) brought him the bad news.
even if it wasnât, on some level, âwei wuxianâs faultâ that what happened to jin guangyao happened, I can imagine it feeling that way.
and on the other hand: thereâs the conflict between those two things. between the feelings of selfishness about not being straightforwardly happy on his brotherâs behalf, and the guilt over not seeing what maybe he shouldâve, and the guilt about killing jin guangyao, and the guilt about the guilt about killing jin guangyao. (I think post canon lan xichen has a lot of guilt going around.), but then also the anger and envy that are there too.
but honestly? I think a lot of lan xichenâs complicated feelings are more tied up with how he feels about lan wangji and the impact on that relationship of all of this than wei wuxian. because lan xichen liked wei wuxian, he did, but they were never close; thereâs not the same kind of emotional depth and so in all the turmoil I can see him just...not really registering. like yes, sure, he was the instrument of jin guangyaoâs ultimate fate. he was the harbinger of the doom of lan xichenâs happiness and (relative) peace with himself and the world.
but heâs not the one where I think it feels like, on some level, his happiness got traded for someone elseâs.
anyway I have a lot of feelings about suddenly-out-of-sync twin jades post canon and possible emotional tension between them that I think about a lot but probably will never actually write into
The thing that kills me is that, if youâd asked him, at any point in the 16 years, when he was watching his brother fall apart - when he was trying to keep wangji alive after the whipping, or dealing with him drunkenly mutilating himself with a branding iron, or even just seeing the quiet way he sinks into grief and is consumed by it - xichen would have absolutely said he would trade his own peace of mind and his own happiness to ease wangjiâs pain. He would have jumped at that opportunity, if it had been laid out for him. He just would not have expected what that meant or that other people would be involved. Heâd have done it thinking the price would be, like, taking the beating or going into seclusion in his place, or something like that - it wouldnât occur to him that what âtaking wangjiâs painâ would mean is âwatching the man you love become something terrible, murder a bunch of people and then die, hated by everyone, with his memory forever tainted.â Â
So apparently what I do lately is think about Nie Huaisang post-canon (mostly post-CQL). About the weirdness of seeing and being seen by Wei Wuxian. How where they are left means they know each other, but itâs not like their old carefree friendship in any way. Nie Huaisang doesnât know what Wei Wuxian thinks of him now. And, honestly, Nie Huaisang isnât entirely sure what to think of himself, now that his long, lonely quest for revenge is finished.
So every interaction is awkward as fuck, until one day Wei Wuxian makes an attempt at one of his usual tension-breaking jokes and says something like, âWow are you lucky I wasnât a mindless vengeful ghost, you know the chances were pretty good, haha!"Â
Of course they both realize immediately that does not lessen the tension at all. Itâs agonizing. Itâs terrible to have their current lives so intertwined with pain and darkness and really very questionable choices, while still carrying the memories of fun and lightness and laughter. Nie Huaisang is pretty sure thatâs gone for good. Some things canât be brought back from the dead.
But then Wei Wuxian says, very quietly, without a trace of laughter, "Iâm so sorry about your brother. He deserved better than what happened to him.â
Itâs been so long since anybody has said that to Nie Huaisang. So long since anybody has said it in a way that remembers that his brother was a good person, a good brother, his best friend. So long since anybody remembered that Nie Mingjue was more than a fearsome warrior and sect leader. More than his slow, terrible madness and ugly breakdown and horrible death.
Nie Huaisang doesnât even know what to say. How do you say anything to such an obvious truth that nobody seems to believe is worth remembering? So all he says is, âSo did you. You deserved better than what we did to you.â
And the next time he and Wei Wuxian smile at each other, itâs not wary or knowing or questioning. It is, finally, genuine.

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