I was thinking about this the other day and that I wanted your insight on, if you've talked about this before or I'm just repeating something you have discussed please feel free to ignore
I feel like that so many people's (TMEs) understanding of "transandrophobia" comes from a misunderstanding of what transmisogyny. I vaguely remember when well-meaning friends are introduced to transmisogyny as "oh it's the unique discrimination that trans women face!" And they are like yeah that makes sense. But then the next (incorrect) thought is "well trans men experience transphobia differently to trans women so let's make a word for that! #transandrophobia" and they see this as fine, Afterall trans women and trans men experience discrimination differently! So it's good to have words about it! And that what so many of tme people I know believe, but like I mentioned earlier it comes from a misunderstanding of transmisogyny.
As you are well aware, transmisogyny is not just how trans women are discriminated, it's the unique way both that transphobia and misogyny not only intersect but exist uniquely that harms trans women systemically. It's very specific to trans women that looks at their oppression. When transmisogyny is defined like that, like it actually is, the mere idea of transandrophobia is silly, trans men aren't oppressed for being trans and men.
But I believe so many TMEs just don't see that. They view transmisogyny as the first definition I gave, that's it's simply a word to describe the discrimination trans women face. They don't get over the hurdle that the word actually looks at trans women's oppression at a systematic level, like other words such as sexism, racism, ableism, etc and how it depicts why trans women are paid less, treated worse, etc. Which is why they get so much more offended when their transandrophobia is dismissed, because to them you're ignoring trans men's discrimination, when that's not what it's about. They don't treat the word transmisogyny with the weight it has.
I'm not sure if I'm wording it correctly but like
Person thinks transmisogyny is just trans women discrimination -> trans men also face discrimination, they need a word too -> transandrophobia pipeline
Person recognises transmisogyny as the description of how trans women are oppressed with the intersection of transphobia and misogyny -> this is why trans women are overall worse off then their trans men peers -> understanding trans men privilege and how trans women are treated in society
I know this likely isn't the case for all TME people, some are just pos and willfully ignorant, but I was trying to understand how well-meaning people I know would end up with regularly using a word like transandrophobia. What do you think?
Sorry if I'm really wrong about this, your posts have been really insightful for me, thank you for all you do
yeah this absolutely checks out. a lot of people who pay lip service to the idea of transmisogyny being real still do not treat it as a real axis of oppression
