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But I bet you if I posted pictures of canonically lesbian characters and told them they were straight now I’d get death threats and told I’m “lesbophobic” despite being bisexual and attracted to women myself.

Okay, let’s see if you can tell which of these quotes came from conservative republicans and or anti-sjws, and which came from ace tumblr.

“…you’ll most likely die of an std. have fun f*ggot i hope you die or get raped.”

“i hope you get gang-raped by a bunch of homophobes”

“i hope you get aids”

“dirty d*ke”

“i don’t trust lesbians”

“you don’t know oppression until you get gang-raped”

“if you hurt people who you think deserve it, you’re basically Hitler”

“homosexuals have a fetish for being oppressed”

“gay pride and nazi pride are synonymous”

“i hope Trump sends you back home”

“shove a rake up your ass and bleed to death”

“we’ll see how they [the LGBT community] stands after a couple more massacres”

“a lot of serial killers and rapists are gay and bisexual”

“anti-sex positivity: because you can’t outright hate those sluts”

“people don’t get called q*eer and get beat up for being gay anymore. this isn’t the 60′s.”

“the LGBT community will poison people’s minds”

“lesbians are bitches”

So! can any of you guess which ones were said by ace tumblr and which ones came from 4chan? Trick question, because I found 100% of these quotes from @acecommunityreceipts, and they were all said by supporters of cishet aces and cishets themselves. I get hate on a (semi) daily basis about wanting to exclude cishet aces from the community. But you know what? Honestly? I’m not even mad anymore. What I am is afraid.

You people will tell us to die of AIDS and literally call us d*kes and f*ggots but within the same breath tell us that we’re required to let you into our community. You told us that you were happy that Orlando happened and that you wanted more of us dead to “weed out the aphobes” and yet you don’t understand why we’re the slightest bit wary of you. Comparing us to nazis? You’re cool with it. Telling us we’re dirty and calling us slurs? That’s fine with you. But when LGBT people say we’re terrified of straight people you’ll send us death threats and say we should stick sharp objects up our asses. Like… you literally want us dead. You’re dangerous. This is dangerous behavior.

Our whole entire movement was started by bisexual trans women of color fighting for our right to not fear for our lives, along with a vast array of legal rights, and they threw bricks and riots. Our movement got to a point in the 80′s that people were having die-ins at government buildings because no one was helping us. Now? A bunch of overly privileged white people who are desperate for oppression points are telling me that they face actual tangible oppression for not wanting sex or romance, while simultaneously being violently bigoted towards anyone who isn’t them. It honestly makes me feel ill.

And to those who are inevitable going to day that I just haven’t seen their sides arguments, yes I have. I’ve had private conversations with several people on the “pro cishet ace” side (some civil some not), and to be honest, I’m not convinced. After the life I’ve lived, and the lives that my loving, caring, and supportive chosen family has lived, on top of the truly vile garbage some of you have said to me… I simply can’t. I’ve tried but I cannot.

This. This is why we have to be separate. You cannot tell me to die and then tell me you want to be my friend. You cannot tell my friends that they deserved their abuse and then want to be a part of their community. You cannot use us as props and then deny us our personhood. This is not how it works. Fix yourselves before you crumble. And please, for the love of god, do not make the LGBT community crumble with you. I know I asked you to play a game earlier, but trust me,

gotta love how inclusionists portray gay men as the straights of the community. how they say that they’re prioritized for being gay. how they say that being a gay man is regressive and not q***r enough. how they hate gay men for being gay, but then say that it’s just cis white able bodied allo etc etc gay men they dislike.

gotta love how inclusionists try to claim bisexuals and aces face the same issues. how they pit bi ppl against the “LGs” and make fake woke posts abt how important bi/ace solidarity is. how they compare bi discourse to ace discourse, and say it’s exactly the same in every way. how they will immediately turn on a bisexual person if they’re not an inclusionist, and will call them “allos” and traitors to the ~solidarity~ they’ve dreamed up in their head.

gotta love how inclusionists will claim to stand for trans and nonbinary ppl’s rights, but then compare exclusionists to TERFs. how they get pissed at nb ppl who use the term “sga” bc it isn’t ~inclusive~ enough. how they will throw words like AERF, REG, and the like whenever an exclusionist does so much as express their opinion. how they call trans and nb ppl these terms without hesitation.

Liz Prince, Tomboy

What an ice cold fucking take. I’m not a butch lesbian, or a lesbian at all, so I have no authority on this, but seriously, what the fuck. Butch lesbians don’t dress like men, they dress like themselves! Liz Prince is the lesbian’s Macklemore, making her book about abolishing gender norms one giant “no homo.”

(via rihanna-discourse)

Not to fucking mention how much she loves throwing around the d slur. I mean she loves it in narration, in quotes, she doesn’t censor it or shit. Thanks, Liz. 

Don’t confuse ‘ace people aren’t inherently lgbt’ as ‘ace people can’t be lgbt’. Of course you can. I know especially for younger ace lgbt people that this discourse can be frustrating and easy to misinterpret, please know it only comes from a place of community preservation.

- “lgbt aces are broken and need fixing” oh that definitely doesn’t remind me of classic homophobia or anything lmao

- “queer is a slur, and it’s users are homophobic and transphobic” uh oh, here comes the identity police. i can’t believe i, known gay enby, am a transphobic homophobe because i personally choose to reclaim queer. amazing.

- thinks that ace trump/pence/hitler moodboards are ‘hilarious’

i appreciate people have differing opinions, but you can still express your opinion whilst acknowledging the following things (i have included things that i see on both sides):

- ace/aro identities are real and valid identities that often hold a lot of importance to those that have them. disregarding this part of someone’s identity is disrespectful and bad discourse. you can argue for exclusionism without shitting on someone’s identity/saying it isn’t real/saying they shouldn’t tell anyone ever other than their partner.

- claiming lesbian/bi/gay/pan/trans/nb ace/aro people aren’t lgbt is shitty and wrong. if you see someone saying this, call it out.

- cis bi/pan people are just as capable of transphobia as cis gay people/lesbians. don’t pit the “LG” and “BT” against eachother.

- ace/aro people who are exclusionists are still ace/aro. i’ve seen posts claiming that they aren’t and it’s gross. they aren’t traitors to their ace/aro identity, just like lgbt inclusionists are still lgbt and aren’t traitors to their community- attacking peoples’ identities doesn’t do anything to advance the debate, it’s just rude.

- not everyone is comfortable with the q slur, it shouldn’t be used to refer to someone when that person hasn’t given their permission. reclaiming it for yourself and being proud of that is fine! but you don’t have the authority to tell others they have to use it too.

-claiming young children can be asexual is wrong. it ignores the fact that children are still developing and sexualises other children. acknowledging this as a fact isn’t invalidating ace identities, it’s acknowledging that this identity works in a different way to others because it specifically involves sexual attraction. additionally, using the “but then kids can’t be gay!” argument as a response is homophobic.

- to reclaim the q slur, you have to be trans or attracted to the same gender. you can still argue for inclusionism without insisting that ace/aro people can use homophobic/transphobic slurs by virtue of being ace/aro. claiming otherwise is false and offensive.

- referring to non ace people as “sexuals” or “allosexuals” is unacceptable. using this term sexualises that person’s identity without their consent and is often used for people that simply haven’t specified if they’re ace or not- it’s creepy to make speculations about someone’s sexual attraction when they’ve purposefully not made a public comment on it. don’t use these terms, be respectful.

- calling exclusionists TERFs is unacceptable and transphobic. the great majority of us are trans or nb, and this additionally trivialises the problems trans women face in regards to access to medical care and exclusion from women’s spaces. the term “REG” is also transphobic, and other comparisons that have been made such as calling exclusionists nazis/white supremacists/other are vile.

- no one should be wishing death on each other. i’ve seen a post or there that’s said ace/aro people should die, i’ve seen a post here or there that say things like exclusionists should be “shot on sight”. both are unacceptable, both are bad discourse. if you see this, call it out and no platform them if they’re on your side. if it’s the other side then bring it to their attention so it can be dealt with.

- if you’re an exclusionist and you see an ace pride post that’s not discourse related: LEAVE IT ALONE. people can make ace moodboards, etc. if they want to. if it’s just simply someone expressing their identity, leave them be. if you think it’s cringey? fine, you’re entitled to your opinion but you don’t need to hijack their post and announce to them how “”“cringey and embarrassing”“” you think they are.

- don’t spam the tags with shit that shouldn’t be there. exclusionists, don’t put gore/sexual content/hate in the ace positivity tag. if you see this being done then call it out and no platform them. both sides, don’t put discourse in the ace positivity tag. eg. “ACE/ARO PPL AREN’T LGBT LOL!!!” or “CISHET ACES ARE LGBT AND Q*EER”. both are instances of exposing people to discourse when they have come to a tag for positivity. don’t ruin the tag for people who need it, and additionally don’t exclude ace/aro people from your posts because they have a different opinion. positivity should be accessible to everyone regardless of their stance.

*i hope i’ve given a somewhat balanced list highlighting things to be avoided by both sides. if you feel i’ve missed something then feel free to add to this!

theres gonna be a fundraising event for be more chill massachusetts in new york on july 28!