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People here either love disguising transphobia as feminism or disguising their misogyny as concern for the trans community

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why are you against mspec gays/lesbians? /genq
like i genuinely don't understand why people have problems with them.
because lesbians cant date men and vice versa. As simple as that. People use the excuse "don't dictate other people's sexualities/identitys" when they quite literally don't understand that if they REALLY want too they can just say "yes we're bisexual with a female preference!" Or simply say they're sapphic.
You don't have to shove men into lesbian spaces and call yourself a "bi lesbian" just because you like the 'lesbian vibes' or whatever. You're bisexual or any other kinda of mspec label. Just don't say you're monosexual when you're not lmaoo
At this point being called an exclusionist for not wanting "bi lesbians" and "trans man lesbians" in our community is just a code for "how dare you have standards and not want to shill out for insecure bisexuals and trans men who can't let go of their old label." It means nothing.
This whole discussion of the way toxic inclusivity harms the LGBT as a whole, perfectly summarizes the despicable “queer theory” of “queer academics,” which ignores the fact that ‘queer’ is a anti LGBT slur calling LGBT people abnormal/freakish/strange for being LGBT, and instead just latches onto the ‘abnormal/freakish/strange’ part and declares that ~anything~ that could be considered abnormal/etc is ‘queer’. And it’s this academic “queer theory” that is the basis for declaring kink, polyamory, political genderfuck, any degree of gender non-conformity, and all the ‘a-spec’ and mental-illness-identity-labels as “queer” and therefore part of LGBT when in fact they are not.
So it’s all around disgusting how this very lack of critical thinking has people treating the LGBT like a damned clown car to cram in as many nonsense labels.
It's so pathetic how many people are going out of their way to defend a words derogatory history and usage in order to justify their selfish wants, over the overall welfare of the LGBT community.
I’ve been skimming Strange Aeons’ video about MOGAI (it’s a pretty good video I think I just have a short attention span lmao) and something super interesting during the first half of the video jumped out at me and I wanted to talk about it.
The people trying to invent “more inclusive” terms for the LGBT community (GSM and then MOGAI) were also exclusionists in their own right. There was paranoia about if the term “GSM” would invite paraphiles, kinksters, and even cishet crossdressers into the community, which people (ESPECIALLY back in 2014 Tumblr) had a visceral hatred and disgust for. If someone tried to propose that a sex worker is a sexual minority, how would that conversation go over? Who counted as a sexual minority that we should care about? And that’s SO fucking fascinating to me on so many levels about how the 2014 MOGAI / GSM inclusionists weren’t nearly as inclusive as they painted themselves to be.
Do I particularly care about inclus/exclus discourse nowadays? Nah, not really. Do I still think it’s super interesting that even the most inclusive of people would inevitably find reasons to attempt to exclude people from the community that they personally found revolting, strange, or, in a word, ‘too queer’? Abso-fucking-lutely.

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hii can u link some stuff on the history of pansexual and where it rly came from, id like to read up on it
Sure thing, I'm going to link three articles on pansexual history and popular pansexual definitions and why they're all not only terrible but also straight up biphobic, transphobic, homophobic, and even intersexist. I'll also post a link YouTube link that also explains very well pansexualities past and why it's still very biphobic to this day. I recommend these sources because they use documented history and site reliable sources that aren't "trust me bro" in nature or rely on popular yet disproven talking points.
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https://bipanhistory.carrd.co/#pansexual
https://aninjusticemag.com/the-history-and-troubling-present-of-the-pansexual-label-9e535e15277
https://aninjusticemag.com/definitions-of-pansexuality-to-avoid-14b950299c84
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This just in folks. Advocating for trans people is homophobic.
when people are like “i understand that bisexual people can be attracted to more than two genders, i just think pansexual fits me better” i’m like okay so you don’t understand that bi people can be attracted to more than two genders
Anyways shout out to lgbt+ people who use queer/fag/dyke/etc. for themselves and are respectful towards those who dont reclaim the slur. I know yall exist and are absolutely amazing and respectful.
Shout out to lgbt+ people who don't reclaim the words queer/fag/dyke/etc. and respect those who use it for themselves. I see your attitude and I love you for it. Keep being awesome.
The number of people who wholeheartedly believe the entire earth better change their language to accommodate less than 1% of the population, MOST of whom do not want or benefit from said change
But they're confused by people being insulted by being called a queer and say essentially that you better learn to like it bc they won't change their language to literally just not call someone a freak unless they know that person is okay with it
Like y'all are just open and proud hypocrites huh

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Oh look, it's a perfect, first hand example of how and why pansexuality is problematic, woke biphobia, and straight up bi-erasure.
Why am I starting to see people trying to change the definition of Sapphic to "non men loving non men" too now AUGH
anyways trans men do in fact face opression for being trans men and if your excuse for why they dont is "men dont face opression" not only are you ignoring the years worth of oppression trans men have faced for, thats right, Being Trans Men, youre also ignoring the years worth of oppression men of color and disabled men have faced 😭 also gay men literally face opression for being Men who are attracted to Men, but you dont go around saying gay men arent opressed do you no you dont you just hate trans men/transmascs lmao
I'm still so baffled that lesbians are apparently mean and exclusionary because we define lesbian as having no attraction to men.
No beef with the previous post I reblogged but looking at the notes. I think it's kind of weird that people are more openly like "haha isn't weird that a straight man doesn't want to kiss men. cringe." but then when she came out as a lesbian trans woman all of a sudden a good chunk of the notes were like ah yes madam forgive me. i understand you would not want to kiss men as you are not attracted to men. good day like ??? how about we just don't badger people with weird hypotheticals pertaining to their sexuality period

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not to be the one, but cishet girls going from commenting “is he.. ya know 💅🏻??” constantly and saying people are a “fruity” to saying twink with their whole chest is so fucking insufferable. they are too comfortable.
i won’t even get started on so many guys calling things zesty— they’re simply just being homophobic.
the girls, however, think that being included in “girls, gays, and theys 😍😜🤩” means that they aren’t stereotyping, being homophobic, part of the problem, etc.
also— do they even know what a twink is?? i swear to god they see any gay guy and are like “okay, captain twinkmerica” or whatever the fuck
"Gay" should not be losing its meaning
Why is it that members of identity groups outside of the "LGBT" acronym are constantly appropriating and trying to change the meanings of the identities in the LGBT acronym? I've seen some of those people say that dudes can be lesbians, that people who don't even experience attraction of any kind are gay, that bisexuality needs to get canned from the community entirely, and that not conforming to every strict gender role makes you trans.
Even if they argue that more letters can be added to the acronym, those letters are always just extensions of the pre-existing acronym, so isn't it completely backwards to deprive the pre-existing LGBT community of their pre-existing terms?
You have your own terms already. Bisexuality would make sense, because a bisexual person can be in a gay relationship. "Asexual" and "Aromantic" have absolutely nothing to do with the word "homosexual", aka:
And this appropriation is coming from the same people who loudly insist that we need to be more inclusive and include…basically anything that doesn't follow a "normal" role in relationships or gender. I know that's an incredibly unspecific way of saying it, but I've literally seen groups add 'K' for 'kink' in the acronym and I have no idea how else to describe it. Straight people just gotta be kinky enough and they're in it too.
And for the person who wants to make gay a synonym for "queer" to make English speakers (there are gay English speakers y'know) come up with a new word for terms the LGBT community has had for decades… what is there even to gain by doing that? The new meaning of queer is "denoting or relating to a sexual or gender identity that does not correspond to established ideas of sexuality and gender, especially heterosexual norms".
Wouldn't that be the term used for the group when you include all the stuff like kink and gender nonconformity and all that? Not LGBT? And why do you feel the need to appropriate an already existing term from the LGBT community and broaden it until it matches a word we already have?
I need answers, so no matter what your stance on this is, I want to hear about it. I'm putting a lot of tags on this, so if it gets attention, each weird reply with no good arguments just proves my point even more, so be wise with your words 🥱