mercy

this is the breakdown of their argument: “[we] are superior to [them] because of [our] [militant denial of sociocultural religious beliefs], because [we] believe that followers of [sociocultural religious beliefs] are less intelligent and are, in essence, primal. therefore, [we] are the most valuable and advanced members of the human race and should be the future of society.”

still with me? cool.

self neutrality. ignore self positivity stuff. neutrality neutrality neutrality. you are a machine that you are trying to use to reduce harm. nothing more nothing less. also having a clear understanding of negative utilitarianism. causing harm is bad. nothing else is. all value revolves around suffering and the reduction of suffering. if you are not causing harm, you are neutral, which is the best thing. if you are causing harm, you are negative, and should correct the behavior. you dont need to care if you look ugly. you dont need to care if someone didnt like you. not being pleasing to others and ugly looks are not causing harm. embarrassed yourself by missing a social cue? not causing harm, so who gives a single fuck.

How do you think farm animals got to be how they are? We made them domesticated so THEY'D BE A FOOD SOURCE FOR US.

THEY'RE NEVER GOING BACK TO HOW THEY WERE, THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO SURVIVE IN THE WILD WITHOUT US AND THEY AREN'T GOING TO BE JUST KEPT AS PETS TO FARMERS.

THEY'LL DIE WITHOUT US NOW, AND THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO BE PETS.

Also I guess plants Aren't living creatures? Despite the MOUNTAINS of evidence otherwise, fucking LOL?

There is no fucking 'point' to their existence. Unless you want to but into some shit pseudo-religious teleological arguments, none of us are here for a true "purpose." The only "purpose" we have are the ones imposed by social constructs. They aren't MEANT to be 'meat,' they arent MEANT to be 'pets,' they just are.

Really not going to respond to the "plants are creatures" thing as it's some of the most stupid bait out there imaginable, but I have something for you: Would you rather throw a blueberry bush or a dog into a wood chipper?

Imagine knowing the depths of cruelty that the animals go through. The exploitation. How they suffer. Imagine agreeing with vegans points of views. But to put it bluntly, you’re so far up your own ass that you can’t even change your own lifestyle. Like if vegans are correct as you said. Why aren’t you one then?