been going all in on the life sim project development since my reddit post about it blew up, i will keep everyone updated :) i'm very excited to show more
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I would still like everybody to stop, pause, make some really tight fists with their hands, now shake them out, and do some deep breathing.
I would still like to ask people to sloooow down. The internet moves fast but sometimes, life moves more slowly.
There are still efforts going on behind the scenes to get GOS back online (and Sims 2 Artists).
New hosting has been secured. The website php needs upgrading and this has not been working, but people are working on it.
I know its hard when things happen and you don't know what's going on.
Instead of panicking, jumping to conclusions, making angry posts, it's time to offer support, be patient, wait, ask what's happening without getting mad.
And please, remember kindness and empathy. Lunie has been trying to update GOS for months, and she is exhausted. It's down right now, but not dead (yet).
I do not deny this situation has been handled badly. I do not condone hateful or aggressive language FROM anyone directed TO anyone.
The latest update I have is that the site PHP is ancient, and it will be extremely difficult to update it so that the site can be rehosted, but people are trying.
I'm even probably roping in my IT dude husband who does web hosting and deals with this sort of thing, but who is not a simmer and has no idea what GOS really is.
I will try to actively post more updates as I receive them so that communication can be clear and we can all know what's going on.
So, I assume most of you don't know, but there is a bit of drama inside the Paralives community. It's funny because this whole thing is revolving around The Sims 3.
TwistedMexi made his first paywalled "early access" mod called Sims 3 Camera, and I've been working on the same thing as he was.
1. Let's get the "clone" allegation out of the way first.
(Source: TwistedMexi's discord server)
TwistedMexi is accusing me of cloning his mod, but let’s look at the facts. Thankfully, I always use GitHub, so the commit dates are there to prove it.
(2026-05-26 22:27:02 +0200) is a timestamp of the first commit with hash d82ddd909e06833b0f8d5d439ad602d04a4f3e08
(2026-05-27T19:57:44.000+00:00) is a timestamp of the publication date of his Patreon post.
Honestly, I didn't know I could see the future, but ok.
2. The second thing I want to address is that currently there are a lot of awful comments directed at Tmex. PLEASE do not harass other creators.
3. Regarding early access and paywalls: My mods are developed in my spare time as a passion project. I believe in keeping my work accessible to everyone, which is why all of my content will remain completely free, forever. I believe the community should play a role in maintaining projects if the original creator steps away, which is why I always share the source code for my projects
Free mods are a pillar of a healthy community, whereas paywalls only lead to gatekeeping and unnecessary drama. My hope is that more creators choose to release their mods in a way that prioritizes community growth and shared resources.
A reblog would be greatly appreciated to help spread this message.
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I made a mod for Paralives which stops wants from being cleared when Paras go to bed each night, so they're still available to work on the next day. This adds a lot more incentive, purpose and direction to gameplay for me personally. I love how there's always wants active in The Sims 2 so that's what I'm going for. You can always manually delete ones you don't want anymore to make space when you get to pick a new reaction to an emotion. I learned after making this that you can actually stop one want from clearing by pinning it, but I'd rather be able to keep as many as I currently have and besides, remembering to pin one every day especially in large households could get tricky/annoying. So, I thought others might want this mod too to keep all of their wants.
No but for real. Your brain is one of the most advanced machines known to exist. It's a computer capable of running a sapient intelligence on - and I cannot stress this enough - 25 watts of broccoli and stew. What the fuck.
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I have returned from a grueling 48-hour adventure deep within the Maxis mines, and have witnessed unspeakable man-made horrors with my own two eyes — the object limit is very real and there is nothing that can be done to fix it! The end times are upon us!
Okay, I'm being slightly dramatic. It could be fixed fairly easily, but not with a simple patch, and likely not without access to the source code (anyone else tired of hearing that excuse?).
The issue is that the limit isn't localised to purely the Build/Buy menu — it's integral to every aspect of the game that involves objects. Here are just a few examples of the game's functionality that would need modifying to remove the limit:
Sim pathfinding and routing.
Mapping tree tables to objects.
Interacting with objects.
Manipulating objects within lists (reading/writing/deleting them).
Objects being unselectable in the Build/Buy menu was also a result of this limit and I managed to fix it very quickly, but because The Sims 2 is a house of cards with the limit as its foundation, everything started falling apart almost instantly.
"So, what is this limit?", I hear you ask. 32,767. Yes, you read that correctly. The game is only willing to accept object IDs up to a meager value of 32,767. In computing terms, this is the maximum value of a signed 16-bit integer. It can store many more objects than this in a list, which is why you can still see all your 4t2 objects in the catalogue, but it isn't designed to recognise this many IDs and thus can't do anything with them.
Why are integers signing things? Are they famous or something?
'Signed' refers to the fact that these are integers (an integer is just a whole number btw) that can represent both positive and negative values — negative numbers have a negative sign before them, hence the term 'signed'. An unsigned integer is therefore one that can only represent positive values.
While they can both represent the same total of different values, the range of representable positive values differs. Using 16-bit integers as an example:
Unsigned: 0–65,535
Signed: -32,768–32,767
This shows that both can represent 65,536 different values, but the range of positive values for signed integers is half of that of unsigned integers. Object IDs cannot be negative, which means Maxis deliberately chose to use signed integers as a way to cut the ID limit in half.
The cherry on top of all this is that the game is manually converting 32-bit numbers into 16-bit numbers to enforce this limit. This is why I could fix objects not being selectable in the Build/Buy menu easily, as all I had to do was patch out the conversion. Could EA do this across the whole game themselves if they wanted to? I imagine so. But then again, if I had billions of dollars, I probably couldn't be arsed either.
What's an object ID?
An object ID is just a number from 0–32,767 that the game assigns to each new object it places into a list, presumably starting at 0 and incrementing by 1 for the next object. It would appear that CC objects are given IDs first, which is why it was solely Maxis objects becoming unselectable after passing the limit.
Sims and objects are stored in separate lists, but I believe they both contribute to the overall limit. My single piece of evidence for this is that I experimented switching between several hoods and observed that the IDs of objects in the Build/Buy catalogue fluctuated across them. Objects in hoods with subhoods attached had higher IDs than in those without.
What was causing the Build/Buy menu crashes?
The same thing I explained in my original post (the game trying to access null pointers), except the creation of these null pointers was no accident and not the result of something going wrong.
The game merely checks whether the ID for the object it is looking at is above 32,767, and if it is, it deliberately sets the pointer to its address to 0. This would be fine, if it didn't then try and access this nullified pointer immediately afterwards!
I'll cut Maxis some slack here, because surely no one would be crazy enough to want more than 32,767 objects in their game, right guys? How could they ever have predicted such a scenario? (2004 was a simpler time).
Wait, so you were wrong about there not being an object limit? Not so cocky now, are you?
Whoa there, cowboy — hold your horses. If I may direct your attention to this excerpt of an email I sent to @teaaddictyt on the 22nd of April 2026 at 13:42 BST:
As you can see, I was right all along!!!
In my defence though, we thought the crashing was the only thing we had to solve, which is why I missed the completely obvious 16-bit conversion that was occurring within the functions I patched. Unfortunately, I am only human, but I understand if you want to destroy all the spockthewok posters I know you have hanging on your walls...
In light of these new findings, if you want to hear my updated opinion on the existence of the object limit, watch this video.
Is your patch useless?
Yes, but also no. It's not fixing the object limit (I should probably rename it tbh), but it is fixing those annoying crashes caused by it.
At the moment, not having the Build/Buy menu crash when you try and use it is the best we can do. It's up to you which you find more annoying — crashing, or not being able to buy x number of objects in the catalogue. Like the 4GB memory limit, this is going to be an additional constraint we'll have to learn to accept :/
Another alternative would be to join me and the 12 other weirdos who play with no CC, and never have to worry about any of this. No? Oh well, it was worth a try...
Will you ever actually fix the object limit?
If it's even possible without the source code, then not by myself, no.
Because of the number of core areas of the game that would need patching, I don't trust myself not to miss something and have the game explode. Unless someone wants to assemble a modding strike force to try and tackle the issue as a team over several months, I'm not touching it with a 10-foot pole (for your safety and for mine).
Should Maxis go on trial at the Hague for crimes against humanity?
Probably.
Anyway, that's all from me, apologies for the false hope :( One small positive is that I did manage to map out a reasonably large chunk of the game's code while I was frantically searching for solutions, which should make my life easier when looking at your requests. I feel like I need to successfully complete some of them now to make up for this dud!
Will
(Thank god I didn't look at this for my dissertation, I would have failed my degree).
After years of SimPE dabbling I finally became brave (and desperate) enough to learn how to read and edit Sims 2 BHAVs.
"Go Out (for Tea)" is a mod to help handle the Vanilla Sims 2 "quirk" wherein a sim will return home from a community lot at the same time they left. It is designed as an alternative to Community Lot Time, but you can absolutely use both together as there are no conflicts.
All information below this cut 😊 And warning... there's a lot. Sorry. My "simple" mod turned out to be quite complicated but hey ho!
I made this mod because I wasn't happy with CLT's limitation wherein if one sim (or group of sims) is waiting to come home, no other sims can leave the lot. As I play a lot of Open For Business, this was becoming increasingly limiting.
Teenager: "I want to go out with my friends after school!!" - Too bad son, Mum's still trying to come home from work so you're stuck here mate!
It was also irritating me that CLT would occasionally just randomly fail to initiate, and there was nothing I could do about it.
My mod adds a custom menu to the sim when you click on them. You can tell them to "Go Out" for [x] amount of hours, and they will disappear from the lot and idle off world with needs frozen until it is time for them to come back.
In a household with multiple sims and/or pets, a pop-up window will also appear asking you if you'd like to send sims out as a group.
The options for hours are set to 1-12 by default, but in the TA_GoOut_Action file, there is a configurable BCON where if you want to, you can enable larger amounts of time to appear in the menu, for example up to 24 hours.
Thank you to @picknmixsims for this nice feature 😊
There is also a "Go Out.../ Indefinitely" option where the sim will be gone until you cancel their interaction. Other set amounts of time are not cancellable, so if you make a mistake with how long you send your sim out for, you will need to use the batbox or similar to "force error" on the sim to get them back now also cancellable 😊
This mod is based off the Maxis Jogging interaction, with many tweaks. The interaction is available for toddlers+, and toddlers+ are able to go off lot. Dogs and cats may too, but unfortunately I couldn't work out how to enable this for kittens and puppies. I will try to revisit this in the future if I learn something that might help!
When a sim leaves the lot, you will get a notification pop-up telling you what time to expect them home, which will remain on screen unless you close it. This is displayed in 24-hour format because the Sims 2 stores time in 24-hour format, and when I tried to tweak it to appear in 12-hour format, the game would get confused about when the sim should return, sometimes returning at 3am instead of 3pm.
There is a tuning BCON inside the TA_GoOut_Controller file where you can choose if you'd like this to display in 24 hour time or 12 hour format. Major credit to PickNMix Sims for this!
When they return home, another notification will appear letting you know they are back. This one will self-close after a few seconds.
It is less automatic than CLT, and requires you to keep a rough track on how long your sim was gone for so that you can send them out for roughly the same amount of time.
However, they payoff is that it is much more flexible than CLT, as you can use your own discretion, and of course, send multiple sims or groups of sims out at once! If your sim was Downtown for 10 hours but really you feel like it would have been more like 2 hours IRL, that's fine, just send them out for 2 hours. Your call!
Groups & Dates:
When a sim is on a Date or Group Outing, the amount of hours you select for the sims to Go Out will be added back onto their event timer so it is voided once they return home. For example, 1 hour in game = 1 minute on their event timer, so if you go out for 3 hours, 3 minutes will be added to their event timer.
Young Adults:
When a sim is a Young Adult / University student, you are prompted to choose if you would like to freeze their college clock or not when they "Go Out".
This is because if a Young Adult visits a community lot in a University subhood, their college clock continues to progress (unless you have a mod). They may go to class from a community lot, take exams, etc. Therefore when they return home after say 5 hours, you would want to freeze their clock while they "Go Out" for 5 hours, instead of repeating that time again and potentially missing class.
However, if a Young Adult visits a community lot in a main neighbourhood or Downtown, their college clock automatically freezes. Therefore when they return home after say 5 hours and you send them to "go out", you would want their college clock to continue ticking down.
The code for freezing University time was borrowed from Inge Jones's University Break Object mod. I did have to tweak this code slightly, so I have re-uploaded my edit of this mod, and have re-meshed it from a bust to an alarm clock converted by @jacky93sims which a University sim may keep in their dorm room.
This is optional, you do not need the clock for my "Go Out" mod to work.
The University Break mod (if you download it) now affects sims individually, rather than all sims on the lot. A sim must claim a clock as theirs, and may take a break from University independently of everyone else in the dorm. If you'd like ALL sims in the dorm to take a Uni break, you'll need lots of clocks! - Or just send everyone to a lot in a Downtown or Main hood for Spring Break 😂
When a Young Adult is "gone out" (or on break) with their semester clock "paused", they should not get any notifications to go to class, or a push from the game to go to class.
Important: there is a KNOWN ISSUE from testing where some players have reported still getting these pop-ups, so there seems to be some nore hidden mod conflicts somewhere! If you have this issue, please run a HCDU+ on your mods folders and let me know if anything is reported, or if you can figure out which mod is conflicting, let me know and I'll see if I can sort it!
From testing, this feature appears to be fully compatible with Squinge's College Mega Pack to have YA's attend University in your main hood, bearing in mind that rule with Community Lots.
Pregnancies:
From my testing, pregnancy always freezes when a sim visits a community lot of any kind. Therefore, pregnancy will continue to tick down in time while a sim is "Gone Out".
However, if you play with Chris Hatch's "Visit Sims" mod which enables sims to visit other residential lots, a pregnant sim's pregnancy timer WILL continue to progress while they are visiting. When they return home and you send them to "Go Out", you may want to pause their Pregnancy. I have therefore made an alternative version of the mod which gives you a pop-up similar to the Young Adult's popup, asking if you'd like to pause the pregnancy or not.
Kids:
If children or younger are going to be left home alone, the Go Out mod will not allow your chosen sims to leave the lot unless a Nanny is present. If a child comes home from school and your adults are off-lot for too long, a social worker will come to collect them after a number of hours as in vanilla gameplay. If you would like this not to happen, I suggest playing with a no social worker mod.
I have also made a version that is compatible with the "Playable Nannies" mod by LazyDuchess, so my code will recognise when a custom Nanny is on the lot. Please only use this version if you have Playable Nannies in your game.
By request from @anibats I have also made a version of the mod which doesn't care at all about whether there is a Nanny or not, so if you'd like to abandon your younglings, you can use that version instead! 😂 This one pairs nicely with the no social worker mod.
Aging:
Aging does not currently freeze when a sim is "Gone Out", so if they are gone at 6pm when age transition triggers, they will age up a day as normal as I believe sims do not age up on Community Lots without a mod. If you would like to freeze your Sim's aging while they are out, I recommend using a separate mod such as Monique's individual aging controller or similar 🙂
Bon Voyage:
Bon Voyage / Holidays / Vacation time is currently not addressed by my mod. If your sims visit a community lot while on Vacation, you would want to use the "setHour" cheat when they return to their hotel to have their travel time make sense. This is because Bon Voyage code is very different, and to "freeze" holiday time would be a difficult and potentially game-breaking task. I may revisit this in the future when I know more about modding.
Time Speed Mods:
My mod is compatible with Chris Hatch's Time Controller mod, and with Merola's Time Control Clock. Sims should "Go Out" and idle until their expected return time.
I did notice an issue with Merola's Time Control Clock while I was exploring compatibility. I looked into the code and found an error with the way Merola's clock slowed down time, so I have re-uploaded a fixed version of this mod with a new mesh converted from TS4 and 50 recolours (because why not!!)
The only other main time speed mod that I am aware of is the Lazy Duchess Relativity mod, which is reported by LD to be broken and is unsupported, so I have not checked compatibility with that mod.
Can I break it?
The mod has been tested fairly rigorously (thank you to @anibats, @ch4rmsing @doubledash7, @joplayingthesims, @katieraecreates) and should be fairly sturdy, but I'm sure things will come up that don't work as expected 😂 Please let me know if you find bugs, and send an error log if possible, and let me know which version of the mod you're using.
If you use the "setHour" cheat while your sim is gone out, they will still return at the time the pop-up told you they'd be back. So if they're supposed to be back at 8pm and you set hour til after 8pm, they won't be back til 8pm the next day. That's on you, sorry 😘😂
I am a baby modder, I have been doing this for approximately 3.5 weeks, please be patient with me as I'm sure I've messed something up somewhere, despite trying to catch and fix all of my mistakes 😂
Conflicts:
Pescado's AptHack will conflict with the University Sims going out. Here is an edited version of AptHack to work with my mod: Download and then you can delete my file called "TA_ijUniversityBreakPatch"
"No Finals at Night" by TwoJeffs will conflict with the University Break Patch. I will look to make a compatible version during the next few days. I have now also patched this. If you would like to use both mods together, download the alternate version of the "TA_ijUniBreakPatch" below and replace the original from the mod, then make sure my mod loads AFTER the TwoJeffs mod 😊 I have not yet explored if it would be possible to resolve the conflicts between aptHack and NoFinalsAtNight, as that's out of my jurisdiction haha, but note that you wouldn't be able to use both!
None else are currently known other than something else potentially hiding and messing with young adults, as previously mentioned. Please do let me know if you find any conflicts in your games and I will try to resolve them.
DOWNLOADS:
Okay, this is more complicated than I would have liked. But bear with me:
Go Out For Tea - Main Mod Download. Use this version by default. Yes you need all files.
Go Out For Tea - Playable Nannies Compatible. Use this version if you have LD's Playable Nannies Mod. Yes you need all files.
If you want to be able to pause your sims' pregnancies, e.g. if you play with Visit Sims or another mod that lets you travel to residential lots, get the base mod and then download this ZIP and use one of the files inside to replace the TA_GoOut_Controller file, either the base version or the playable nannies compatible version.
If you don't want the mod to care at all about nannies, get the base mod and then download this ZIP and use one of the files inside to replace the TA_GoOut_Controller file.
Simlogical's University Break object tweaked and re-meshed as a clock - Download
Merola's Time Control Clock with simplified code, re-meshed as a cute clock and with 50 recolours because I have no chill - Download
Pescado's AptHack made compatible with Go Out, courtesy of Gummilutt 💗 - Download
TwoJeffs No Finals At Night compatibility patch - make sure my mod loads AFTER his! - Download
Credits and Thank-You's:
@picknmixsims William my Sensei, you are a wonderful human being. Thank you for your "suggestion" to start again after a week of messy coding to make a better mod and for all of the help along the way 😂💗
@gummilutt my teacher and friend, thank you so much, you know this mod would never have happened without your help!
@morepopcorn my soul-twin, can't wait to do more modding with you 😘 Thank you for sitting down with me for 3 hours and teaching me how to really read code line-by-line, helping troubleshooting, making so many changes and tweaks and all the things!
And as already mentioned, thank you to my wonderful Beta testers!
A collection of 6 frames that let you choose between taking an instant photo or picking an image from paintings folder.
This project started when my friend @trofysisters needed frames that could have the same functions as in Sims 4, to have the ability of making gallery walls and especially have photos from important events and vacations. I then combined code from several photos by Lucas from Aussie Topenders, mainly his Customizable Vertical Photo (these are not direct clones) and used meshes and textures from Sims 4. I've already made several picture frames based on his code (2 from here and other 2 from here) but these frames are different.
They let you choose between taking an instant photo (just like the Luminous Pro Antique Camera, artist career reward) or choose a picture from paintings folder in your sims 2 documents (same one as custom paintings). I made it so that vertical frames take vertical pictures and horizontal frames takes horizontal pictures. Again, all credit for this functionality goes to Lucas and Maxis.
The set includes 2 standing frames (1 vertical and 1 horizontal) and 4 wall frames (2 vertical and 2 horizonal ones, normal and bigger versions). They are found in electronics-misc as they are supposed to be digital frames.
"Modern Photo Frame Landscape" and "Modern Photo Frame Portrait" are V2 versions of these frames, you can't have both in your game so you'll have to choose, to keep older or get newer verion (I recommend newer one from this pack).
Soooo... I didn't intend for two highly requested fixes for The Sims 2 to drop within the space of a week and a half, buuuut...
Here's where you can download an experimental patch to fix the so-called 'object limit'!
https://github.com/spockthewok/TS2ObjectLimitFix
(Ultimate Collection only at the moment, I'm afraid).
The good news is:
Both @lordcrumps and @teaaddictyt have tested it with stupidly large CC folders and report that it works.
There isn't a dissertation the length of Tolstoy's 'War and Peace' you need to read through to understand wtf is going on.
The crashing wasn't caused by some hardcoded object limit at all! (That I know of).
An explanation of the issue for programmers:
And for everyone else:
The code for the Build/Buy menu was missing basic checks to confirm that the data it was trying to do things with was actually valid. No, I'm not joking.
Basically, it appears that all of the objects you can buy in the game are stored in something you can think of as being like a big, long list, which grows in size with the more custom objects you have.
The only purpose of the code that this plugin patches is to sort the items in the list into some kind of order. This is done by assessing if the value of the previous item in the list is larger than that of the item currently being looked at, and swapping their position if this is true (also known as an insertion sort).
In short, the game wasn't asserting that the data it was about to compare for sorting was valid before accessing it, and then promptly blowing up when it tried to do so and discovered it wasn't.
I imagine that the odds of the game making an oopsie and dumping some funky data into the list increases with the number of objects it is having to process - this might be why this issue only presents itself to those using multiple GB of Build/Buy CC. It was much easier to patch the code encountering the bad data within the list than to try and hunt down the mysterious culprit putting the data in there to begin with, so this is all the information I have at the moment unfortunately.
Either way, one of the first things you're taught when learning to code is to ALWAYS check that the data you're operating on has been initialised (i.e. it holds some kind of value). I guess someone at Maxis must have skipped that lecture :D
Is the 255 objects per subcategory limit theory true?
The Downloads folder I was using for testing had ~672 objects in the Deco/Misc subcategory (Maxis objects included). With the patch, I can freely navigate throughout the entire subcategory with zero crashes, so I guess not?
What about the whole OBJD limit thing?
People have varying beliefs of what the limit on OBJDs might be, but HCDU reports my Downloads folder had an OBJD count of 20,787. Again, without the patch the game would crash when switching categories in the Build/Buy catalogue, with the patch, no crashing.
If you want to hear my opinion on whether such a limit exists, watch this video.
Do I even need this patch if I don't use much CC?
As it adds some fairly important crash-prevention checks to part of the Build/Buy menu's functionality, I'd probably recommend using it anyway, just to be safe - we all know how much this game loves to crash!
Aaaah! I'm still getting crashes with the patch!
I'm aware that a few of you CC addicts out there have Downloads folders larger than the total size of everything ever uploaded to the internet, so if you still experience crashing in Build/Buy mode with this patch, please take a look at the mod's GitHub page and send me over the information requested there. Fingers crossed that shouldn't happen, but if it does, I'll try my best to investigate :)
Anyway...
Will
(I wish I had looked at this for my dissertation, as it was literally only a day's work).
After much effort, I've completely re-uploaded the images for SHWC on Dreamwidth. These were previously hosted on Livejournal and therefore unavailable to most viewers. You can find it all here:
Strangetown Here We Come Chapter List
I started this story in 2007, and it has been ongoing for 18+ years (with breaks along the way). Please keep this in mind if you are a newcomer to the story. It has changed and grown along the way, as have the characters. Mostly, it's a coming of age story, and a love story/stories.
New entries will be posted to Dreamwidth. With this out of the way, I'm back to working on future updates. I've got lots of stuff I'm looking forward to sharing.
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Hi everyone! I mentioned in a recent post about creating a Strangetown that had everything I could think of (PC, PSP, DS, GBA, console & some SimValley features) I keep changing the layout of the map and can't decide where the console lots should go. It's keeping me from going full force and moving forward with the neighborhood. I've realized that I need to take a step back and first do the Sims 2 console neighborhood (Pleasantview, Strangetown, Melbourne) to fix some of the confusion. From what I can see, only the Alien Crash Site and the Freeplay lots have some kind of confirmation of which area they sit in. Rockpile Rd (Freebers family) has a Strangetown address. Arbor Grove (Newbies family) and Largess Lane has a Pleasantview address, and Yamoto Crest has a Melbourne address. There are two Gold want descriptions of your character, one from Tranquility Falls and the other at Alien Crash Site that mentions Strangeville (previous name before becoming Strangetown, I guess they forgot to update these)
So, what about the other locations? The world map gives a rough idea of where everything is. It may not be the most accurate, but that might also be because it changed several times.
I was trying to confirm whether Andromeda Arms (features the two aliens John and Mary Gray) is in Pleasantview or not. The surrounding deco houses are a mix of the same deco used at Rockpile Rd (Strangetown) and Rockwell Acres. This does make the placement on the world map pretty accurate, especially the last map where it's close to the water near the Biodome, as the zoomed out view for Andromeda Arms shows water with palm trees:
Sunset Canyon is still in the same general area on the final world map as the first one, keeping it close to Rockwell Acres. And guess what? Sunset Canyon also has a bunch of palm trees surrounding it, and looks like a mix of grass and dirt. Sunset Canyon may look like it's part of Strangetown at a glance when playing, but it is described as an old abandoned movie lot. It's all props to look like a western set. Was it set in Pleasantview all this time, near Rockwell Acres? Or is it Strangetown, like Rockpile Rd? Also to note, it looks like the Jugen House used to be next to Andromeda Arms and Sunset Canyon in the last map, which makes the surrounding area of Jugen House more accurate, as it also uses the same grass/dirt texture. Now the Jugen House is on the other side next to The Orbit Room, but that area is much more green with hills.
Rockpile Rd is what sent me in this circle of thought. The address in the screenshot above shows it's located in Strangetown.
But Rockpile Rd is SO similar to the area of Andromeda Arms! Here also shows all the shared deco houses that Andromeda is using, except the distant homes are different. The smaller out in the distance homes are the same ones used at the unoccupied Freeplay lot Largess Lane, which is set in Pleasantview. They are extremely similar to the deco houses at Rockwell Acres too.
And here is Largess Lane zoomed out, I guess we know where that lane is going! Arbor Grove, which is the other Freeplay lot that is set in Pleasantiew (occupied by the Newbie family) is very similar. It uses the same model of the deco houses surrounding Rockwell Acres and Largess Lane, but with different textures.
And here is Arbor Grove! It's hard to see here, but the skybox and hills is the same one from Rockwell Acres. What I found to be interesting about Largess Lane, which may help with placement in the Sims 2 PC version if combining maps, is the description of the lot, "Woodland-styled community nestled among rolling hills. Lot includes a fence low enough to enjoy a peek into the neighboring yards." This might be a stretch, but... I was marking out PC Pleasantview (which may not be complete, I think the undrawn road is also Main Street. The sc4 file of Pleasantview does have Main Street going straight through, I wonder why they removed some of the road in the final version here)
Largess Lane is a woodland-styled community nestled among hills, and there's a Woodland Drive with hills over to the side?
I mean, could we just attach that up there??
Might be getting ahead of myself here, the idea is to take a step back and make a neighborhood that is exclusive to the Sims 2 console, so I can focus on exactly what that layout should be. Although I'm not sure how I should handle returning characters, like Don Lothario and the Caliente sisters. I also think this would be a great option to have, so it can be added on as a subhood to other neighborhoods that already have the PC sims included, like Chris Newbie's Strangertown or Strangeytown. Otherwise, I really would love to make an expanded version of Pleasantview, along side an all-in-one Strangetown. Melbourne though? Should that be combined with Veronaville somehow because of the Monty family? I mean there is space on the Veronaville map to shift things around, and it's just 3 locations from the console game. Although Cliffside Retreat seems to be overlooking Pleasantview. So many decisions...
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