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I like to think that on the Argo 2 none of them were able to shave. Annabeth accidentally cut herself shaving pretty good and razor cuts huuuuuurt and said NOPE. Piper tried to power thru doing the same thing. And hazel didn’t even try (idk whether she’d be shaving yet or not I started shaving my legs somewhere between 11 and 13 and she’s 13 let kids be kids) which means all the girls were properly full grown underarm hair at some point the guys are missing so then they finally find them. (Also this boat is far to binary percy is agender cause the dude has never thought about gender in his life it’s canon cause I said so)
They’re all crammed in Jason’s bathroom having THIS conversation
“Jason this might be your once chance to grow it out” -frank.
Jason looking like he’s deciding on a life or death decision“if I live at camp half blood the rest of my life I’ll be able to😭” -Jason
“You can’t have beard at new rome??” -leo
“Percy I think you should grow urs out” - Jason “yea it’s like a whole military thing w the legion every body grows beards their first year retired”
“You think so?? I’m worried I’ll look like my dad” - percy “also that sucks ass” “also I’m skipping over the fact you want to live at chb”
“You’re a beautiful human percy what the fuck. Actually please grow it I’m being so fr rn” -leo
“Can I feel your face” - Jason “I am also skipping over that leave me alone”
“Sure can I feel yours?” -percy
“I’m pretty sure we’re all just touching each others faces now” - frank
“Dude you’ve got some serious arm hair man” - leo
“Hole fuck yea I swear I got it like DURING being unconscious for 8 months I feel like I literally just woke up with it one morning” - percy “I also got this going on”
“Bro that happy trail is thick” - leo
Jason loses heaving over in laughter then they all do
“Percy please never shave actually” -frank
“I do think is there’s one place I could grow my beard out of here cause everyone at camp will say I look like my dad” - percy “I also want my gf to kiss me”
“Not u saying ‘gf’ instead of girlfriend” - Jason
“Like you’re to expert on language dude lmao” -leo
“Also Jason grow yours out too idmtr” - frank
“What the actually fuck does those letters mean” - percy
“Leo stop looking at frank like you’re going to shove him out of the bathroom”-Jason
“I don’t make the rules” -frank
“What rules?”- percy
“Neve mind lmaoo” -frank
Meanwhile the girls are laughing their asses off and annabeths face is still red as hell over the happy trail comment “what the hell is a happy trail???” -hazel
“The hair on a guys stomach under his bellybutton heading down to ya knooow” -piper
“Annabeth u good??” - hazel
“I have only seen this man shirtless once. We were 13. I am now the reason he wears shirts to bed plz don’t ask” - annabeth “HOLY FUCK next y’all are going to start comparing duck sizes get the fuck out of there what on the fuck hell holy sh—“
Coach hedge is just standing it the doorway of Jason’s room.
In recent memory and because the show sanitized his upbringing, Percy gets treated like he had an idyllic childhood. And it drives me crazy. Yes, his mom is actually the only good parent in the entire series and everyone else has incredibly messed up origins. But he, too, had an extremely traumatic childhood and you can see such clear evidence of how it shaped him.
I think of that part from TTC when he meets Annabeth’s stepmom and expects her to like turn into a raving lunatic at the mention of her name and is surprised when she doesn’t. And it’s easy, I feel, to read this in retrospect as Percy just not understanding the nuances of bad parental relationships. But I think this is what it actually is: Percy’s experience with a bad stepparent is Gabe. And that’s how Gabe always reacted at the mention of Percy’s name. And Gabe would have left him to rot without any question or remorse. So of course that’s what he expects from the stepparent Annabeth has been complaining about as long as he’s known her, and she deemed bad enough to run away from.
And yes, compared to Luke and Thalia and Annabeth, Percy is somewhat better off solely because of Sally. Except he, too, was deadly serious when he said he’d rather live on the streets than live with Gabe, and if not for camp that would have been his only option at this point in his life—the same as it was for them. Percy truly CAN relate to the feeling of camp being his only safe haven because this is also true for him. Percy probing Thalia about her history with her mom is not a kid who comes from a stable home trying to relate to her and failing: it’s a kid who grew up sharing living space with an alcoholic, and is able to tell at the age of 12 years old “when an adult has been hitting the happy juice.” And this is of course not even to talk about his constant awareness of money and his mother working odd jobs just to put food on the table—experiences that Thalia, Luke, and Annabeth don’t have. So I think it is just so unfair to view him in retrospect as the kid who is so privileged that he can’t understand trauma rather than what he actually is: a kid who was only ever one bad day away from being in just as bad of circumstances as any one of the other demigods, and who at points in his life, actually was in their circumstances. When Percy meets May Castellan he is not just reflecting on how bad Luke’s life sucked, he has experience and trauma of his own, and he feels a heavy sense of “how easily this could have been me.”
Percy being not outside of the problem, but inside it, is fundamental to the series. He’s not just championing Luke’s cause: it’s also his own! Because who is more exploited by the Olympians than Percy Jackson? This is a kid who has almost been put down like a dog by them ! They took a vote on it in front of him!
Leo and Frank and Hazel’s moms are actually dead and they stayed dead. But Percy watched the Minotaur squeeze his mom to death right in front of his eyes and had to process her death and blamed himself for his failure! Of course he is going to relate to them on a fundamental level, and again, he was so very close from having been in exactly Leo’s situation.
I hate the Percy and Annabeth dynamic the show is setting up and more recent works have established, with Annabeth being integrated into Percy’s happy and stable home life. That’s not where Percy came from. They are both kids who come from messy, painful experiences and and they see likeness in each other. He’s actually needier than she is when they first meet!
I wish the pjo fandom just accepted that Rick Riordan is a bad writer sometimes or at the very least inconsistent. Maybe then they'd recognize that a lot of characterization problems are retcons and bad writing instead of taking it as fact. It's why half the fandom is convinced that Percy hates Nico/does not care about him or that Nico's relationship with Percy only brought him pain. Why Jason, Hazel, Reyna and Will are considered Nico's support system but Percy isn't.
Nico and Percy's relationship does not exist in a vacuum and you need to understand the doylist problems in heroes of Olympus.
1- Rick very much repeats Nico's arc from pjo but worse. Nico's arc in pjo dealt with grief and being ostracized due to being a son of Hades. The second problem was established since the very FIRST book. Hades is not considered an Olympian he does not have a throne and his kids don't get cabins because otherwise "it would be terrible" according to Grover(we never learn what the terrible thing is I mean Zeus and Poseidon's kids are equally destructive soooo) PERCY very much calls this out in Botl when Hera insinuates that Nico doesn't belong. HE calls her out which causes Annabeth to do the same. People talk about Hera's beef with Annabeth but they leave Percy out of it. Then in TLO Percy calls out Nico's heroism and uses it as a reason why Hades deserves a recognition. Nico gets a cabin(which he designs) and the implication is that he will be accepted. In fact Hades' kids being accepted is why the position of the Oracle is not cursed anymore
Then HoO comes along and people STILL think that Nico/hades kids are creepy? It would have been fine if it was just CJ since they didn't have the development CHB had but no apparently camp half-blood went back to treating Nico the same after like 2 weeks. And Rick cannot for the life of him decide if this ostracization is in Nico's head or not. Frank is fine with Nico in SoN and then in their next meeting he's terrified. And then the rest of the 7... I don't even have a problem with the scene with Hazel where they talk about him being untrustworthy(that's fandom exaggeration they did not want to leave him behind Y'all they just said that he might be untrustworthy and then like 3 lines later it's dismissesed hell the conversation literally begins with PERCY telling Hazel they're saving Nico. Also let's be honest with ourselves Nico IS shady sometimes and any true Nico fan would love him for it) but their general attitude is like "ooooh so creepy." and Nico doesn't even do anything to cause that he just exists and idk is a little bit sneaky? As in he can move quietly? Leo makes a joke at his expense and him and piper are surprised that Jason defends him implying he wouldn't have done so before? Percy and Annabeth find him unsettling (even though they were FINE with him in PJO I'll DIE on that Hill. Even his SISTER is like "oooh Nico is not easy to be around thank you Frank for talking to him he needs practice talking to people." bruh who IS this guy 😭 pjo Nico wasn't like that! He could hold a conversation with people he could work in a group setting even though he preferred to do things alone. He doesn't hiss at social interactions 😬 Rick uses Iapetus/Bob from sword of Hades but apparently forgets that this was the same story where Nico went on a quest with Thalia and Percy and he was FINE. In fact Hazel's very presence relies on Rick retconning the lesson Nico learned in tBotl because he apparently only found Hazel while looking for Bianca. Which is really unnecessary I mean he could have just found her in the underworld while investigating the whole Thanatos problem.
Do you see the problem Here? For Rick to repeat Nico's "people find me creepy and Because of that I self isolate until I find support" plot. Nico needs to be isolated again. Camp half-blood needs to go back to isolating him(also Rick retcons who designed Nico's cabin) we need Jason and Reyna to be Nico's first real friends so we need to scrap Nico's friendship with Percy and how much Percy cared about Nico. Hell let's mischarachterize Nico and make him even more anti social to create drama.
And perhaps the WORST thing in this whole debacle: Rick retcons this whole thing AGAIN by going "oh no the ostracization was in Nico's head he's the one pushing people away 🤪" Which like it CAN'T be in Nico's head because I was in other characters' heads and they are weird about him too is Nico supposed to be blind as to not notice that? And the fact that this author gaslighting comes out of Nico's love interest is really part of why I could never get into Solangelo. Hell the Solangelo books BOTH have a moment where Nico is talking about his experiences and Will is like " um actually 🤓☝️ non of that happened people wanted to be your friend you just were rude and sarcastic to us." And we're supposed to take his words for it. This isn't Will being unreliable this is supposed to be objective reality. And once again for the people in the back: Nico IS NOT like that. He is not constantly sarcastic and rude to people. He can very much carry conversations He can be polite. One wonders if that really was the case why didn't Will name some of those who wanted to be Nico's friends. I mean if Rick wanted to make Nico's pov sound unreliable that was his way but BoO makes it seem like this is Nico and Will's first notable interaction(which tSatS later retcons again but I expect nothing from that book).
2- Now let's get to Percy. As I've said Nico's problems with Percy does not exist in a vacuum there's a doylist reason that goes back to Nico but there's also a problem with Percy's character arc as well. Rick has like 2 arcs for Percy and they're both ass. One is about his fatal flaw which goes nowhere and the other is that Percy apparently needs to learn to be a better Friend. You hear that? PERCY Loyalty Is My Fatal Flaw JACKSON needs to be a better friend. The culmination of that Arc is basically that scene is Tartarus where Percy realizes that he's been a shitty friend and needs to do better and the examples used here are: Calypso, Bob, and Nico.
For that to work the narrative needs to bend over backwards to either blame Percy for things that are not his fault or retcon Percy's whole ass personality.
A- Percy is in NO WAY responsible for the gods not freeing Calypso. They swore an OATH to make Percy's request come true and if Rick Riordan actually allowed oaths to the River Styx to matter this would not be a problem but again doylist problem. Rick wants Calypso in the plot for Leo's arc so Calypso needs to be in her island so uhhh apparently the gods didn't free her and it's Percy's fault even though he was kidnapped. Calypso needs to fall in love with Leo so Leo needs to succeed where other heroes have failed. Caleo can only work if Leo proves himself different/better than Percy.
B-Iapetus/Bob. Idk if this is unpopular or not but Percy does not owe Bob SHIT. I know that Rick doesn't really remember Sword of hades so let me remind all of you that the only reason why Percy erased his memory was that this TITAN(practically impossible to defeat) was trying to KILL him, Thalia and Nico. He was very much gung ho on murdering them (it's why I roll my eyes at HoH trying to make him somehow different than the other Titans like oh Iapetus was always softer/morally better than the other Titans. No the fuck he wasn't. If we go by personality Prometheus and Krios had a much more nonviolent and calm personality in PJO). If Nico wants to befriend Bob in spite of the murder attempt good for him, it's very much in character but Percy is not a bad person for not thinking of Iapetus more. My brother in Christ they had to deal with the aftermath of a WAR and Percy was kidnapped and had his memories erased and right after that he had to deal with ANOTHER WAR 😭 plus Percy isn't Nico. His relationship with Hades is rocky at best last time he went there he was imprisoned He can't just stroll down the underworld and visit Bob whenever he wants.
C- Nico. I can't believe this needs to be said but Percy was NOT a bad friend to Nico. "Not giving people a second thought" is NOT a problem Percy and Nico had. Percy took on the prophecy because he did not want Nico to shoulder this burden. Annabeth points out that he could be the prophecy kid and Percy actively CHOOSES for it to be him so that Nico doesn't get noticed by Luke/Kronos. He hides Nico's parentage from Chiron. He(+Annabeth) look for Nico for months in between TTC and BotL. When he has a vision of Nico with Minos he's so freaked out by it that he destroys his cabin's fountain and states at it for hours until Tyson checks up on him. He RUSHES to The labyrinth. He RUNS to the dangerous as fuck labyrinth because Nico might be in there and he does so while convinced that Nico wants him DEAD. When Gerion allows him and his friends to go on with their quest but not Nico, Percy gambles his and EVERYONE ELSE' freedom to free Nico. PERCY is the one who calls out Hera because he learned that Hera paid for Gerion to let them leave but not Nico.
It's because of Nico that Percy is so pissed off that he calls out Hera's toxicity when it comes to people like Nico or Hephaestus. Hera dismisses this and turns to Annabeth and Annabeth's response is basically: "Percy is right you DO suck." (This is very significant because it highlights Percy's role as an agent of change in his friends and his role as a cycle breaker because of his empathy. Which makes him a new type of hero. Percy constantly stands up for those who are outcasts. He stands up for Tyson in book 2. In book 3 he is the one person that tries to remind Bianca that Nico would be alone if she joins the hunters. He gives grace to both Bianca and Nico and later finds empathy for Zoe as well. In book 4 he constantly tries to help Nico and he dismisses the prejudices people have against mortals with Rachel. Both Chiron and Annabeth(due to Chiron's teachings most likely) view mortals as stupid and helpless but Percy trusts Rachel's competency and abilities. It is very much a pattern. One can even say it's a parallel between Percy and Nico. Percy stands up for outcasts while Nico takes notice of those in the shadows, those other people wouldn't think about. Like Hestia or Bob).
The fandom compares Jason/Will' reaction to Nico wanting to leave CHB with Percy's to somehow dunk on him because "Oh Percy let Nico leave. Nico said he didn't belong to camp half-blood and Percy didn't contradict him that means-" lemme stop you right there. The conversation literally began with Percy trying to invite Nico to his table for dinner because he worries about Nico missing meals. Percy tells Nico that it's dangerous outside of camp half-blood. Both Percy and Nico are RIGHT. Nico WOULDN'T belong to camp half-blood if he'd stayed there. There was no cabin for him. Percy himself had to take people's distrust due to being Poseidon's child he'd know that things are even worse for a Hades kid, Hera literally proved how little Olympians cared about Nico. He trusts Nico's capabilities because Nico has proven that he can survive on his own, and tells him to keep in touch and then actually DOES something productive and asks the gods for a cabin basically giving Nico a home. Do I even need to talk about the birthday cake scene? Even when Percy is mad at Nico in TLO, he still Carries him through the underworld he does not leave him behind. He calls Nico a Friend by the end and uses him as an example of why Hades' kids deserved recognition.
So what the hell gives in HoO? I mean even in HoO' inconsistent ass writing, Percy still has in Character moments of worry over Nico. He dreams about Nico in the jar, and tells him they'll free him. The controversial conversation about saving him literally begins with him telling Hazel that they're saving him(Leo and Jason only comment after that) when they're saving him he's so worried he forgets about Annabeth for a while and feels guilty about it afterwards. And no Percy isn't being mean when he thinks about wanting to throw bread at Nico, he also thinks about doing the same to Grover in book 1 when he's fighting the minotaur. It's just a Percy thing. Are we going to argue that Percy doesn't care about Grover?
But then you got these weird things like "He had a rocky history with Nico di Angelo. The guy had once tricked him into visiting Hades’s palace, and Percy had ended up in a cell. But most of the time, Nico sided with the good guys." Yeah okay it's Completely in character for Percy to be pissed at Nico for hiding the truth/lying to him AGAIN. But Nico always sides with the good guys or whatever. He was completely neutral in tBotl. He didn't care about the war only reviving Bianca but after that plot is done, Nico rushes to save Percy because Minos told him Nico is in danger Percy even takes note of this. He reveals his heritage and helps them escape from the TA. from then on he's on Olympus' side. Even with the trick with Hades. Percy is pissed about Nico LYING to him. He knows that Nico's goal was always to give him the Achilles curse. Percy knows this. Which is why he sends him back to convince Hades to join the fight. I hate the idea that the new books/fandom perpetuate that "Percy only remembers Nico when he needs something." It's NICO who approaches Percy trying to prove himself with the Achilles curse plan. Percy invites him in simply because he wanted to give Nico a good experience. NICO assumes that Percy doesn't trust him anymore. Percy himself doesn't even know how he's feeling. "Not giving people a second thought-" If there's a distance between Percy and Nico it's NICO who pulls away.
And again, while it is in character for Percy to be angry at Nico, I'd argue that an in character Percy would have also spoken up during the scene with Leo and Jason. Percy wanted to save Nico when he thought Nico wanted to sacrifice his soul for Bianca's. He didn't leave Nico behind even in TLO. I'd argue that it would make Jason and Percy's bullshit conflict into something actually meaningful if we turned it into Percy's Greek individualistic thinking and loyalty VS Jason's collective view and non trusting nature due to his upbringing.
And "Percy had shared some disturbing stories about Nico. His loyalties weren’t always clear. He spent more time with the dead than the living. Once, he’d lured Percy into a trap in the palace of Hades. Maybe Nico had made up for that by helping the Greeks against the Titans, but still-"
And bfr right now. Percy is not the type to gossip about people/talk behind their backs like that to someone he'd recently met. He doesn't tell Chiron about Nico's parentage, He doesn't Annabeth and co about his visions in tBotL. I'm pretty sure he doesn't talk about what happened with Hades in TLO. He refuses to let anyone call Silena anything but a traitor but you expect me to believe he'd be trading stories with Jason of all people? Jason Could have simply distrusted Nico because of his secret keeping. It would have still worked. I mean let's be real what else could Percy say about Nico? Nico's loyalties are not the question here. But sometimes Nico has his own agenda also and he hides things. And it wouldn't be slander, it's the truth. Sometimes Nico is a liar. Jason could have just taken that and become suspicious and it would highlight his personality even more.
And yes Nico finds some aspects of Nico's power creepy but he also finds some aspects of them cool. They're friends. Annabeth also cared about him. The three of them joke around with each other in one of the side book interviews. But we know that Rick is inconsistent. Wether it's with Nico both in personality, or lore(I count 4 birthdays for Nico according to the timeline) and so I don't know why people just accept these new versions of Percy and Annabeth.
There's this wired clusterfuck of Nico, Percy and Annabeth being flamderized by both the fandom and the text. Percy and Annabeth have long since stopped being themselves so that they could neatly fit into the "dumb BF x Smart girlboss GF" trope. It's either Annabeth suddenly being way less emotional than she was before so we could make her "cold and logical and needs Piper's help to face her feelings." Or Percy being dumbed down. Compare Percy's speech to the campers in TLO to the one he makes in BoO. His humor becomes more juvenile. The moment Annabeth shows up they become each other's whole personalities, to hell with Percy's connection to Frank, Hazel and the ones he had in PJO. Oh Percy is a troublemaker who needs Annabeth to keep on a leash. He needs Annabeth to help him out of a paperback. She is the brains. Percy's own strategic mind? Never heard of it. It's also Rick's "girlboss not like other girls feminism" that circle backs to misogyny. Because the girls need to all be mature and emotionally competent so they can roll their eyes at the immature, dumb boys. 🙄 Percy just gets it the worst here. Is it really a surprise that the senior year trilogy have basically turned Percy into a complete dumbass who needs his mom- sorry girlfriend to carry all the braincells? Annabeth is basically the mom Friend whose job it is to be perfect and smart and sigh at the boys' stupidity. Hell even the other boys get some of it Jason is somehow a dumbass oblivious Boy for wanting to involve Reyna or trusting her in front of Piper even though they never dated. Frank and Leo get to have teen bickering while the girlies all get along and roll their eyes at the boys bring immature and therefore don't get to have any conflict or any relationship with each other.
Hell let's circle back to the Reyna thing because that's Rick's second problem. He can only resolve love triangles by erasing/downplaying the platonic connections that existed before. I mean Reyna and Jason do not have a SINGLE conversation that is one to one/not related to the plot. Reyna has more conversations with Annabeth and Piper. Rachel and Percy used to be good friends. He was very comfortable around her but then in HoH he gets nervous after her name gets mentioned and Annabeth is amused because oh they became friends off screen but she needs to keep her boyfriend on his toes(they're in Tartarus btw) Reyna? She believed that Percy was competent enough to be co-Praeor with her but then she meets Annabeth (and an in character Annabeth would have had a more interesting relationship/bigger conflict with her and not even because of romantic jealousy but as a proud daughter of a war goddess meeting another daughter of a war goddess who implied that CJ is better than CHB but god forbid Annabeth gets to be immature) and suddenly she's like "lol Yeah Percy can't find his way out of a paperbag without Annabeth" it's so jarring specially since Percy was complimenting Reyna prior to this. And then she gets to compliment him but bam! Annabeth arrives and suddenly Percy needs to be a dum dum in comparison. It happens with Calypso and Leo where Leo needs to succeed where Percy failed(hell even outside romantic relationships this still applies. Nico can't be Bob's friends him being Bob's friend needs to be highlighted by comparing what a shitty friend Percy is. Jason needs to be Nico's first buddy. We can't have Nico be the one to push Percy away because of his feelings no we gotta make Percy into the failure)
And is ANYONE surprised that the same principle applies to Nico as well? Nico can't move on from Percy after a conversation or some closure. Apparently he holds Percy on a pedestal, even after Percy "failed to save Bianca" and Nico realized that the world didn't work like his card game. No Nico STILL help Percy up on a pedestal and the only way he can move on from Percy is by diminishing how much Nico mattered to him by implying that Percy is a bad friend who failed Nico somehow. And Nico suddenly realizes that Percy is annoying and immature and sees how normal and unimpressive he is after he sees Percy... Right after Tartarus. Right after Tartarus when Annabeth and Percy are complete messes Nico looks at him and goes: wow he looks so normal/not heroic. That doesn't make Nico seem shallow not at all! What are you talking about? I mean in the same book Percy is called the person Nico cares for the most but we need to Speedrun this moving on shit so Nico finds belonging(times 2 but it will stick this time promise) and his new besties and his perfect boyfriend and him and Percy never have a moment to finish their ass conflict(same as Reyna and Jason) just a high five with Annabeth and into happily ever after we go.
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also I need ppl to let percy heal. I’m kinda sick of ‘percy holds sooooo much guilt’ which I do think is an element of his character and the fact that percy is actively suicidal for much of the books across series. But. Like. Plz as someone who’s struggled with holding onto guilt over things I can’t control which tbh I think more ppl do than care to admit and the deaths in Percy’s life have in fact been out of his control and as someone who’s struggled with being suicidal for much of my life I need ppl to headcanon him healing. Everybody gives nico, leo, sometimes Jason also and like several other characters room to heal like off canon page completely headcanoned (while rr also gives those characters peace and healing and also has essentially forgotten about Percy’s character as a whole and kind of keeps him depressed and purposeless fuck u rick) give that boy hope that carries out. Let him find a purpose.
One of the things about his character at least in the first series is he sticks around (doesn’t kms) for the fact that he’s needed. He’s a necessary part of something bigger than him that’s out of his control while accepting/is apathetic or numb to the fact he’s going to die. According to camp and everyone else his death has no loopholes it is assumed/expected/‘confirmed’ before he even hears the full great prophecy.
Let him find peace and healing at both camps. Let his friends from first and second great prophecy offer to carry some of the weight he’s placed on himself and remind him they’ve been there too. They, the titan war campers, followed him into war because despite everything they trusted him that he was fighting for a better future contrasting what Kronos’s side thought was the better future. They all likely killed other demigods and all probably had to help clean up the battle of manhattan. They get it. They get him. I need him to feel the gravity not of whatever actions he’s done or not done but of the serious devotion of his friends. That while loyalty is his fatal flaw and they know that, which I’m sure makes him sometimes question if it’s real, it’s NOT THEIRS and they still come up along side him and offer their support in his life. I assure you many of them have definitely wondered if they’d be better off dead. These guys specifically the survivors of the second titan war were all also forgotten by their parents both their godly parents and many of their mortal parents too. Most of the campers that we meet in pjo WHO STAY on the camps side are year-rounders. They all fought within and outside the camp. Facing the fact everyday that they’re not wanted either by the gods or by the demigods that left. They fought for a future where they could truly trust each other and would no longer have to wonder who their true friends are. Which sibling is going to try to stab them next when they’re sleeping.
Give Percy friends and healing. Give all of them that.
Pjo facts that are technically a hc which I will not be taking notes on:
big three kids specifically living ones but Bianca will never be forgotten
percy Jason Thalia nico AND hazel all look scarily similar. Some combination of same cheek and jaw structure the three guys all have the same nose with minor variation. Someone points it out one day and now no one can’t not see it
Percy and Thalia have become TIGHT and everyone else they ever encounter wants them to never be within 20ft of each other cause they constantly ominously hint at destroying the world together. While embracing tightly rocking back and forth-(also while percy is short king Thalia is like 5’1 which makes him feel better about himself and he says so too)—> say shit like
“will you follow me to the ends of the earth my twin. We shall rewrite and begin again” -Thalia “yes dearest twin of five years separation my loveliest sibling and cousin alike. The tide shall turn and the sea will restart over from the beginning of earthen time” -percy “I’m pretty sure earthen isn’t a word”-Thalia “idk man lmao.” -percy “have you ever boiled anybody from the inside out?” Nearby Connor scream begging them to stop being weird
Jason does this thing where he walks over to percy and gets as close to his face as possible and just stays there and can’t help but start to giggle Percy gets closer if possible and always says something out of pocket such as the current camp favorite “blonde men are an abomination to god”, the most recent thing no ones letting go is Jason does his usual thing of getting way too close and Nico shouts above the masses “Jason you full well percy WILL KISS U ON THE MOUTH” jason loses it as percy grabs his head and and they both end up on the ground heave laughing
Pjo hc that percy dreads turning 19 because that’s when Luke turned over to Kronos. He’s already bitter and jaded and just throughly exhausted feeling like he can’t keep up with life now that he’s not confined to a fixed death date and he’s now going to have to face luke when he looks at himself in the mirror.
I think post the second great prophecy percy starts visiting the spot where luke betrayed camp, him personally, every summer. Maybe in a weird way is cathartic for him
Pjo headcanons specifically between camp Jupiter and chb:
Greeks and Romans have a summer exchange program where a bunch of people in the legion and then campers switch camps for a few weeks. Except the greek campers both when they visit New Rome and when the Romans visit them have taken it upon themselves to make every visit more chaotic constantly doing the most
Occasionally for meetings in new rome some of the leaders from chb sit in and in those specific meetings Jason and percy being former praetors sit on the stage? With Reyna and frank. And Percy and Jason start bringing in like goldfish or marshmallows that the greek campers aim for percy or Jason’s mouth and every time Reyna looks over they’re perfectly still and like they’re listening and look as innocent as possible meanwhile frank is doing everything in his power to not die from laughter and none of the legion can manage to speak up about it so they’re all just wide eyed and hazel within the crowd as a centurion also is trying not to laugh and gives ppl dirty looks whenever they open their mouths to comment. Once annabeth and two of her siblings had a popsicle stick building contest on the backs of the chairs. To no notice from Reyna.
Romans run on ‘Roman time’ according to the campers and they give the Romans shit about it. Every time the survivors of the second titan war (which is what I call them I need everybody to get on board with an abbreviation ((my personal fave is sotws because I came up with it and then my dyslexic self realized I was missing an extra s and t so it feels accurate)) get together cause they have a reunion every summer or a couple of times (also a hc leave me alone) which they’ve opened up to the rest of the seven + Reyna, so frank hazel reyna and Jason all appear at different times reyna always being the latest and every time “Romans are always on time” - all of them. (To which annabeth a big fan of lotr without fail says “a Roman is never late he arrives precisely when he intends to” every time. All of the camp leaders have now been forced to watch all 11 hrs and 36 mins of the extended version of lotr and aren’t allowed to say they anything other than it’s amazing)
Jason refuses to learn greek sword fighting techniques but percy refuses to NOT learn Roman ones so more and more quickly percy wins their duels to the point of percy just dragging the duel on as long as possible just to piss off jason. And Jason always ‘falls for it’ - nico(who percy does it to also) or in Jason’s words ‘I let you have that one I swear—it’s just to boost your ego so everyone doesn’t like you—you suck at everything else so I have to—“
Jason and percy eventually become really good friends except they can’t have normal conversation like normal people they have to upgrade their insults every time. Threatening to beat each other up “I’ll give you a black eye again” - percy who has never given jason a black eye “do it I’ll get you kicked out of new rome” - Jason. They get in each others faces giving low menacing threats but have to fight laughing and then they always just stand there for a sec “good talk” “see ya later” “yep” and walk in opposite directions.
we've probably talked to death the significance of this scene in terms of what percy is capable of but I also just really like that he compares himself to a piece of flotsam (broken wreckage lost at sea) and then describes how he became a literal comet (small celestial object passing through the solar system). space is also an ocean
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The survivors of the second titan war—or as they abbreviate SOTWs (to which non dyslexic Rachel informs them they need an extra S and T but it’s already stuck and no one can remember where the extra letters go)—specifically the guys get gayer and gayer for each other but not like in an actual interest in dating each other way but at somepoint if there is an open butt to slap it is slapped.
Connor has begun taking Percy’s face in his hands and saying as serious and earnest as he can manage at that moment “I Will bottom for you. Just say the word and I will” to which percy who can keep a straight face throughout anything says as serious as possible “I’ll ask annabeth again. Just to double check.” Of course Connor loses it everytime
Jake is known as the camp ho (idk why I have that hc it just makes sense in my head) who’s also poly and has spread the rumor that they’re all in a polycule which is constantly debated by every camper. And next gen great prophecy campers (the other 7 plus Reyna ((bc nico is fully part of the situation))) get more and more exasperated as it goes on
Nico has decided that percy is the funniest person to be all over solely based on the fact that he has openly said he’s no longer interested in percy. So he’s constantly in Percy’s space every time he sees him. Wraps his arms around him and kissing his cheek as long and uncomfortable as he can make it for percy. Will has now joined in (also nico definitely gets a growth spurt between 15 and 16 and puts percy back in his place in short king prison. I’m thinking like 6’2)(Percy absolutely does not get past 5’9 “I’m 5’10 on a good day” -percy “ur barely 5’10 when you have shoes on” -nico)
At somepoint percy just becomes the target of all of it and he just accepts his fate with it and absolutely feeds into it and is also doing his best to make all the other guys break their straight face first by saying more and more ridiculously sexually charged responses
hi. If u’re a cishet girl fan of a piece of media do you ever think to urself maybe having she/her in ur bio doesn’t mean you can fetishize and romanticize the hardship and years of self hatred formed and shaped in our formative years as queer ppl from active abuse from parents teachers and peers to some level of combination bc you think it’s hot to get off to a queer man thinking he’s a piece of garbage and unlovable. This isn’t about ships ship who you want whatever. But if in the midst of it the fic or headcanon it includes nico or leo or whoever hating himself to the point of sobbing & self destruction and is healed by his bf’s dick, but no matter what in every 3 chapters he’s gonna hate himself again??? That’s not support baby that tells queer guys you get off to the very thing queer and trans people are desperately fighting against every day with real politics, real oppressive and regressive bills being passed everyday tearing down any previous protections put in place prior that were already the bare minimum, and very real social consequences to going out in anywhere at all as queer and trans people. In every country not just US where I live.
You’re saying we’re strange, abnormal compared to ‘everyone else’, we are set apart from the rest of society and should be ashamed of that. Cause it’s not the queer, specifically queer guys, ships that are the issue. I’m seeing folks headcanon individual characters, from I can only assume cause I check out y’all’s pages are cishet girls, literally cuteifying lgbtq+ struggles with homophobia across the board as a cute and endearing factor of a guy character. If I see one more post that uses nternalized homophobia casually and ‘not accepting being bi or gay for a long time’ cause also there’s zero nuance or consideration for other sexualities bc those are the easiest to grab I’m Going To Scream.
On top of it just about every hc is not a canonly queer character so you’re actively making a character queer as a thing to get off to. That’s the only way it comes across. It’s easy as a queer person to tell wo even checking ur pages if it’s queer persons canon they relate to vs someone who’s infantilizing at the same time as fetishizing a queer guy.
Sincerely an increasingly more pissed off queer trans guy. This is why I check out of fandoms it’s gross.
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Doing the math and figuring out that Percy’s mom is 31 in book one as a 27 yr old adult and in the chapter she’s introduced Percy talks about her having a few grays which I have several and my older sister is significantly gray at 34 so it’s not out of the realm of possibility for her to be gray proceeds to say ‘I never think of her as old but she has several grays’ like bitch my boy she’s 31(also on a side but related note I’m pretty sure she says she was 19 in the first book but can’t remember if it fan agreed upon or if it’s on page so that’s where my math is coming from)
Also Percy 100% finds his first gray at 19 (I was with mine lmaoooooo)
the amount of fics about percy and nicos friendship revolving around the fact that percy needs to apologize to nico and nico being gracious enough to eventually accept his apology makes me want to scream because i have never seen a worse take and yet it seems to be the most popular
I desperately need nico to apologize to percy like plz wtf in canon percy has actively tried on multiple occasions 1st series and 2 series I haven’t read ToA yet to engage in conversation with Nico and open up dialogue and Nico shuts him down every time which percy historically gets mad about especially directly after moments where Percy’s helped Nico with something and it’s Nico that’s an ass about it.
The moment I was so done with the conversation of it all is right before nico Reyna and coach hedge shadow travel away w the statue percy genuinely tries to make light conversation I’m pretty sure “hey good luck” to which I have some memory of the literal line being “I don’t need your help jackson” like wtfff he told you good luck and every body seems to think Percy’s the fucking bad guy and a shit head about all of it!!
But Nico isn’t either tho! This isn’t about one of them being an asshole and an evil shithead and the other not.
The idea that nico is a victim in this situation and Percy’s literally abusive or close to it in like a shit ton of peoples mind is so blatantly false to the source material. Nico is a little kid the first time he’s introduced and is still the youngest besides hazel next to everyone else in the group so his way of handling things emotionally aren’t great and are directly related to his fatal flaw of holding grudges cause the grudge flaw is not minor also it categorizes his entire worldview when we’re in his perspective in BoO and also conversations before we’re seeing his opinion thru his unreliable narration and understanding of the world around him.
Actual character dev for him would to take ownership of that, recognize that his frustration, feelings of betrayal and intense hatred of percy, and acknowledge TOO PERCYS FACE that he (nico for clarification in the sentence) all of those deep seeded hurts and insecurities stopped him from seeing Percy’s good faith efforts to reconcile. That should be his character dev 100% period. Saying “you’re not my type” and running away while funny it still made me mad because suddenly everything’s fine because nico flipped a switch about it but we get ZERO reconciliation and percy HAS apologized to nico about shit too. Where is nico taking accountablity for being just as shitty as a participant in their relationship imo more too the longer they interact and Nico doesn’t say anything.
Someone tell me if percy and Nico get any page time together in trials of apollo and is it at least light conversation of some type of non hating percy on Nico’s part even if nothing is actually discussed. I’m kind of fed up with rr writing I keep wanting deeper character insights into old characters as much as new ones and I don’t wanna if that’s overlooked (continues to be)