'k I need some answers and I don't know if you can help here...I'm kinda new to this whole TS thing. I've heard shake it off but I'm not in her fandom; more of a Beyonce, Michael B J fan but I was on x just chilling when some pics came up on my dash with like 2 mil views or something. So naturally, I'm like what's the tea and gurl, the comments were wiiiiild. Allegedly the guy dated TS and he just hard launched a new gal, the gal from that Kennedy show. Now I been knew that TS writes songs ab her exs, Gyllenhaal anyway? Bu these comments were crazy. They calling home boy homeless, one said he should OD luckily that got placed under spam, comments calling the gal a clone and someone saying their gonna use a t vodoo on both? Like girl. Now there were comments equally happy for this dude, but those negative ones were scary, and I had to find out cuz wtf. There were a few other comments spamming gun pics...maan if I tell you I noped out after that. Anyway, I poked around and I got TS new boo, Travis fan accounts all saying the dude who was getting slammed used TS and that he did it cuz he was bitter and that the guy who's European? was like a bitter ex bc he got dumped and they were posting pics of TS going to some studio and using that to contrast the Kennedy gal pics...it was freaking weird. Safe to say I got no answers, so I landed on reddit and they're making jokes about the European dude and the Kennedy; saying he hated taking photos but now he isn't. One literally compared him to The Hulk level personality split. Then another sub was saying TS hates her ex and is trying to blacklist him from Hollywood using Spielberg? Like why is he in it? But apparently Taylor dated an addict with some saying the blonde was the addict and had depression? Anyway, I kept tweaking with all the shit I'm reading. So I resurrected my tumblr account bc I need some answers...what did blonde dude do? I landed on what seems like TS fan pages and they're very dedicated to Travis and Taylor with one saying the European dude was a fraud and that he got slammed in an album and that he's been mad ever since. Another account is fighting with their anons bc some anons believed that account was saying she was gonna marry at MSG? And that account started slamming anons' moms... I just wanna know what the blonde dude did, why he getting all this heat and why he on my timeline like?...dude has shooters. So I kept looking and I landed here. Is it just the breakup that's causing this...did Gyllenhaal get this or am I tweaking? Like there are people taking up for TS maaan and they are going full scorched earth on this dude.
Sorry for the length maaan.
I LOVE YOU, ANON. every word of this is glorious. just *chef's kiss*
"And that account started slamming anons' moms..." bestie when i say i lost it at this part...
ok. ok. focusing up, you're going to be shocked at how little 'blonde man did' actually. here's a quick-ish outline:
June 2016 - Taylor has been with Calvin Harris (successful DJ/artist) for fifteen months, but they split.
Summer 2016 - Taylor and Tom Hiddleston (Marvel actor) have a quick summer fling that the world watches with befuddlement/confusion/amusement. They met at the Met Gala that year, the same day she met Joe Alwyn (blonde man)
Fall of 2016 - Taylor and Blonde Man/Joe quietly start a relationship. They would be together for over six years all told. They owned property together, shared their homes and lives, but famously emphasized their desire to keep the details of their relationship private - Taylor says this in interviews. Their bond deepens in 2020 during Covid when they are quarantining together and writing music together. He is a writer on her critically acclaimed quarantine albums under the pseudonym "William Bowery."
Between 2021 and 2022, Taylor goes back to the studio to write and record her album, "Midnights." She reconnects with The 1975's Matty Healy (he was the recovered addict, not Joe). They are working on music together that never gets released and she lowkey starts an obsession/emotional affair with him (this is by her own admission on the album, The Tortured Poets Department). There are hints she and Joe may have had an off and on period at this time, but that's unconfirmed.
2023 - Taylor and Joe break up. Their publicists basically say it just fizzled out and no one is big mad or anything.
May to June 2023 - Taylor dates Matty Healy for A MONTH. There's even a break in between where they split and then get back together. When they break up for good, she's seen sobbing in cars after her shows and looks a whole mess.
April 2024 - The Tortured Poets Department comes out. Swifties have spent the time since the announcement of the album at the Grammys cooking up conspiracy theories about what cheating trash Joe/Blonde Man is, even harassing his co-stars on social media and reading into their posts/basically writing fanfic about all the cheating Joe has been doing at specific locations with specific women. Taylor encouraged this pile on by making grief cycle playlists from her music, including a "Denial" playlist featuring many of her best love songs to Joe. TTPD actually turns out to be a messy 31 track ode to her situationship with Matty Healy, disclosing her emotional cheating and instability, and basically Joe comes out looking pretty clean-nosed with his biggest crime being that he was pretty depressed and couldn't show up for her emotionally (her accusation, and still much less than the rampant cheating he was accused of before by rabid swifties).
Summer 2023 - Taylor launches her relationship with Travis Kelce, which got her all of the publicity she could ask for. Swifties are cooking up new revisionist theories, aided by Taylor's Times Person of the Year interview, that Joe kept her caged, was resentful of her fame, wouldn't show up for her or be public enough for her, etc. Joe wasn't really there for her massive worldwide Eras tour, but he is an actor and had film shoots in several locations going at the same time as Eras.
2025 - Taylor releases an album shading Joe by referencing his favorite Shakespeare character, Hamlet - and he has recently filmed/released two projects connected to Hamlet/Shakespeare. Travis Kelce evidently 'saved [her] from the fate of Ophelia" - she was going to go mad from Joe's lack of love or something idk it's a dumbass comparison just meant to signal to Joe and draw his attention.
2026 - Taylor is marrying Travis next month. Joe has not been public with anyone romantically since 2023. After three years, he steps out smitten with his new lady. Swifties lose their goddamn minds. Joe was supposed to be unhappy, alone, homeless, jobless without the Great Miss Swift supporting him/carrying him through life. (This never happened, but Swifties are pretty classist). No one is ever supposed to get over Taylor - yes, even Jake Gyllenhaal. After all, the scarf will remind him forever of losing 'the one real thing [he's] ever known,' right?
Rinse, cycle, repeat. Taylor is a serial dater and serial cheater. Swifties are unhinged, vengeful and obsessive haters of any man she's ever dated who dared not to be with her forever, worship and marry her. Travis Kelce is their king for the moment because he's willing to marry her, but if they ever divorce, Mr. Kelce will need to go into Witness Protection (jk but...). Joe Alwyn committed the following crimes: (1) being depressed and (2) having a new girlfriend.
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Well damn. Thanks for your reply but I ain't gonna lie I'm still wildin at this tea cuz this shit crazy. I knew she'd shacked up with Gyllenhaal, and I kinda vague membered that she got with the Marvel dude from Loki but all this other shit got me fucked up. Like does Travis know all this cuz girl. Also guess this is a good time to admit I just learned the blonde dude is an actor too? I kinda know more about Travis Kelce than any of her dudes post Gyllenhaal. Which 'k? So the blonde dude was with her for 6 years? Chile. But reading your reply, it sounds like he didn't cross no fences and if so, why are people running with that shit and calling him bitter and saying he cheated then? That shit don't make no sense to me cuz they out here saying he hid TS for the 6 years cuz of his cheating which had me fucked up cuz how a European cat gonna hide a girl like that? Like I guess he's an actor and all but like rumors spread yk so did home girl's fans find something on this dude? Cuz the hateration is crazy and youre saying this all based on playlist tracks? And depression? What? Sounds like something changed after they break up from we cooo to the mess after the playlist thing? Like there's gotta be more juice here? Also the addict guy ain''t the blonde dude but someone other guy and I guessing this was before Travis Kelce so TS was actually the one crssing the fence? Girl. Like do her fans know this cuz why they mad? Real talk, this feel like an episode of Love and Hiphop but without the sauce, ya feel me. Everyone gotta stand ten feet down instead of this valley HS school shit cuz it mad corny. And you gotta understand I aint in her fanbase and this dude's shit came on my timeline and all that hate. Damn.
me seeing this ask:
(or queen or monarch - w/e you identify as!)
it sounds like he didn't cross no fences and if so, why are people running with that shit and calling him bitter and saying he cheated then?
they are participating in taylor's own cycle of idealization/devaluation of her partners. they are the best thing to ever happen, sunshine in human form, her savior/bestie/love of her life.... until they aren't. then no matter how mild the breakup, they have become literal swamp scum, cartoonish villains and poor/pathetic/bitter etc. she has done this with: jake g, calvin h (she tried to act like he stole music from her when she was the one who wanted her writing/background singing credits hidden under a pseudonym), joe, matty healy to an extent - although she made it clear she's still sprung for him lol. (jk... unless? energy fr). taylor taught her fans to do this through her discography tbh.
this feel like an episode of Love and Hiphop but without the sauce, ya feel me
pls you are the most delightful person ever fkdhfdasklh;dsj
i am still so baffled and surprised by the choice of steven spielberg in induct her into the shof. i’m a reformed stan and i don’t think i have ever EVER heard her mention spielberg, let alone as a ~storyteller~ influence. it’s always been joni, james taylor, carole king, stevie knicks, shania, etc- classic singer-songwriters and country artists. it feels like such a blatant and shameless move for oscar campaigning to ask spielberg to do this. why couldn’t she be little more subtle and ask like an oscar baity composer?
and if this is how hard she is going 9 months out, what kind of stunts are we in for once award season actually start???
baz luhrmann will suddenly become her secret godfather, she's 5th cousins 8 times removed to scorsese
i'm already cringing in anticipation of her antics over this next year. the THR songwriters roundtable is going to be equally unbearable and hilarious. her SHOF speech proved, if there was any doubt, that she is too far gone to have any ability to show gratitude or humbleness anymore. i can already hear her swiftsplaining her songwriting process to the other potential nominees. 🙄
swiftsplaining ahahaha
i just don't see how there's anything more to be said. the 31 track albums surely say enough
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‘spell it out for us’ ok i’m saying it. some people ARE difficult to love and sometimes its less ‘your ex suddenly became someone who makes an effort overnight’ and more ‘you wore them down and they couldn’t stand you’ and someone with taylor’s (and her fan’s) victim complex would throw up if they ever had to confront this
ok yes yes i agree! also, taylor knows this herself - she tells us over and over in her music. she starts fights and sets traps and tests love until it finally leaves her. swifties think this is something joe made her do somehow, but no?? i don't see any puppet strings on someone who is a billionaire/IS the music industry (lol). when all of your relationships start out all glow-y and perfect and then become unstable over time, there is a clear common denominator.
I find it funny whenever swifties call him ugly because he and Taylor look like siblings 😠This is an old manip of them someone made and they literally have the same face
https://pin.it/2gTzuNVhc
they didn't think he was ugly when they wanted them to get married lmao
https://x.com/AllTooMel31/status/2066715949219353055 i'm not sure "face-blindness" was the source of your troubles here, travis...
(also, are all the "cute travis anecdotes" about him mistaking famous people for other famous people? was he also drunk when he mistook some random woman for greta gerwig? why did he get so drunk when he went to this festival *specifically* to schmooze with finance guys? whatever. he's a goober in way over his head, it's not even that fun to snark on him.)
so the joke is about him being drunk, dumb, AND money-grubbing? wow, taylor sure found herself a catch. also the outfit is.... a choice.
kinda off topic, but colour scheme of this totally-not-mad-my-ex-has-a-new-gf-just-going-to-the-recording-studio outfit would work well as casual fit for tloas. and this is how you wear different shades of the same colour, it has to be at least 3 shades
i thought it would be a fire midnights look! it feels vaguely 70s to me. big belt + warm neutrals + cropped textured/contrast top
Great, now those stupid rep "vault" tracks are gonna be released and we'll all be subjected to immature squawking about how Joe is for the birds or a pigeon compared my peacock or some shit.
and when the writing is shit and no one believes they were written pre-2025, what then??
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Listening to Olivia's new album and this is kind of silly but I appreciated that she rhymed car with boulevard in one her songs. See the only option isn't bar!
I was led to believe by Shakespeare Herself that only car and bar could be rhymed!
https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1u4jqvv/video_of_taylors_reactions_to_sombr_performing_at/ 😬 who the hell sits in the audience very intensely singing along to their own songs, when someone else sings them as a tribute on a formal event? also funny mention of ai considering tloas promo being full of ai slop
someday, the taybr? somtay? fans will call that night their roman empire
tloas slopgate should have been a much bigger deal and lingered much longer. miss 'artists' rights' said FUCK artists' rights
conan gray was also a tay-son at one point and i'm pretty sure he willingly pulled away from her when she threatened olivia because he and OR are very close. and i wonder if she's ever angry about that. it also makes the sombr thing especially funny "he's so emotional for a man" girl conan has been doing that for years and you know it
she shouted out charli puth before, and he's mister big feelings in his music (with a very expressive, evocative voice i must admit). the sombr glazing is somehow taken to a level i didn't know existed.
the thing is that *i* know the reason joe and taylor fell apart is because she got bored of stability and refused to verbalize her issues and all the people mad about joe's new gf seem to not know that BUT. even in the hypothetical that i did not know what i know. the whole 'why were you so burdened by me but infatuated with her' thing ... look in these cases ... there is a very obvious implication that people are choosing not to see.
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i understand the feeling some people have of wasted time, when long term relationship doesn't work out, but if a couple was together for 6 years, then it tells me that most likely they were really trying to make it happen and were serious about each other. sometimes it just takes a lot of time to realize that, despite all that effort being put, you have to split, because it is simply not gonna work out. also to me 6 years sounds like a normal span for this type of "serious relationship that falls apart in the end, because we've figured out our personalities are not meshing well despite all the feelings we have for each other". we obviously don't know details, but it not situation of "we've been together for over a decade and have kids, but he still doesn't want to marry me" that swifties are trying to paint.
yes exactly. plus, the relationship started when joe was 25 or 26. She was with Calvin Harris at roughly that age, so.... are we going to come to her house with pitchforks and accusations because that didn't work out? No lmao.
i totally agree! i relistened to the OR album today and it's got some excellent nuances - musically, emotionally - that taylor has been lacking for a while.
take the symbolism of poison / toxins: olivia recognizes her poisons are internal and arise within her, taylor references poison as something being done TO her, injected into her if you will.
"love was a cold bed / full of scorpions / the venom stole her sanity"
vs
But my head is full of poison
And my heart is full of doubt
I got toxins in my bloodstream
You tried hard to suck 'em out
[...] You will never be the cure
the lover in this song was someone who tried to save olivia from her internal doubts and intrusive thoughts and whatever is causing her emotional pain, but ultimately it was not a viable cure for those painful internal experiences. in taylor's world, others 'fill her cell with snakes,' inject her with 'venom' and 'lured her' / 'caged her' etc. it's always an external force poisoning/hurting her.
look, we all face bad influences, difficult times, and self-doubt in life. the most important thing anyone can do is accept what they themselves cannot control and look inward for the means to shape their own lives. olivia is doing that on this record, between 'the cure' and 'expectations.'