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“Take away from all of Ymir’s subjects their ability to reproduce.”

All I see is a father who is terrified hearing that his child’s life is in danger and he is desperately trying to stop the death coming to baby and its mother. If Historia hasn’t give birth yet and Founder Ymir just remove Eldians’ ability to reproduce, it would also affect pregnant women, therefore the possibility of a miscarriage or forever pregnancy is high.

If Eren sacrificed Historia i.e he doesn’t care about Historia anymore i.e he only uses Historia and her baby for the sake of his plan, he wouldn’t have to run like a fool towards Founder Ymir since she doesn’t steal his freedom, unless she’s stealing his child’s freedom. If he simply doesn’t want the sterilization for all of Eldians, he could’ve chose Historia. 

Everything would’ve been easier if Eren chose to sacrifice Historia. Since Eren can see his memories from future and his father’s memories from the night he killed Reiss family by touching Historia already; if he just uses her, he wouldn’t have to deal with his brother’s Euthanasia plan. He could’ve achieved freedom sooner by turning Historia into a Titan and making Rumbling without fighting an unexpected battle at Shiganshina and having to die to enter the coordinate. 

Just so you know, there will be another last exhibition in Osaka, running from October to December… 

Meanwhile 2 panels on Eren wall are about Historia, in the parallel wall between Reiner and Eren: “Which one is desperate in life?” emphasize the importance of her saving Eren. Well, I know this irrelevance is what Peekasa / Elemicow stans want to have so bad. (Mks is pregnant, look at her tummy in c108!! Eren is going to destroy the world for Mks!!)  

Credit to @sighinglily

Disclaimer.

This is only a theory and nothing said here is post it as true, is only a bia of my point of view on how I see the manga. that´s it, so please don´t come at me looking for a fight cus I´m not going to reply!

Warning.

This is only for big brain people who already read the manga.

SPOILER ALERT!

Nothing of what I´m about to say is on the anime yet, so you will probably get spoilers. Now that you´ve been warned and if you don´t care about the spoilers then please enjoy!

My theory is that Eren escape from prision not only to met with Zeke, but also to met with Historia before he get to met with Zeke.

This is suited between Chapter 107 - 112 It´s on year 558, of the current time of the manga,Eren and his friends are 21 years old here. In this caption we can see Historia´s location, it´s like Dawn here (5 to 6 am) as the sun hasn´t burn yet, and aparently she walks outdside of the house by herself. 

Meanwhile Eren already Aknowledge that Comander Zackly abandoned him and so he decided to eliminate him, whith the help of the Jaegerists. 

And then Eren and the Jaegerists Escape, Hiding where he will be located, so that nobody follow him as if he were Hiding a huge secret. 

(Do you guys remember that cover of the Kodansha magazine where Eren seems to be hiding something?) 

yeah? Ok, anyways, getting back to the story.

It´s differe to where Eren go right after he escape from prision. but it looks exactly at the same place where Historia is judging by the geography.

And is evening.

That just proves these people don't understand Historia and her character. And I didn't want to talk about it before making my video but some crossed the line;

Historia was forced between two situations; Believing her father and eating Eren to save humanity or keeping the titan with Eren and doom humanity.

She ultimately realized humanity is doomed either way because she would still be controlled like her sister. Both choices were no good for humanity,

what she did next? She threw the serum, run to Eren and cursed the world.

She chose what was best for her, what she wanted, not humanity.

She couldn't let Eren die and would never live proudly knowing she killed the only person who accepted her after Ymir and enslave herself to her father, yet again.

Her actions were for herself much like Eren back then who wanted to die to release himself off that pain, thus; Enemies of Humanity.

Right now, she is forced between two options with the same endgame for her. Sure, one of them would spare the world and the island but NOT her children. And to any mother not Karina her children are the world to her.

She had chosen Eren and Herself over the world before. Right now Eren chose her over the world and wants her to do the same for herself or at least let him do it for her this time.

Which also why he told her to stay quiet about it. If she couldn't go along with him, he wouldn't force her. If she couldn't endure the pain, he would take it away... even if he had to do something against his values as to shielding someone away from the truth and keep them ignorant. All being said, Eren knew he wouldn't need to do that because he has full trust in Historia, the REAL Historia. The girl who saved him was "really strong", and capable of doing things HE couldn't back then. Like accepting the murder of the Reiss family.

Eren was inspired by her actions, how anyone can even think for a microsecond that Eren is blaming her?

This chapter shows the great impact she left on him, how much he loves her, how much he understands her (even better than Ymir) and how the situation reversed for Eren to be the one who saves her from self-destruction.

What Historia should choose? Destroying the world? Destroying the island? Destroying her children's lives?

None of these are somethings she would be proud of. NEVER.

But she chose what she would regret the least; not enslaving her own children for others.

Guilt and sadness will accompany both of them for the rest of their lives but that something they could deal with so they chose what's important to them; Pride and Freedom.

Not for themselves of course. But for what they cherish the most.

Bullshit.

That's what I think. Which pov was used to "play" with the shippers before? There's mystery, unanswered questions yes, but no sane writer arrange the memories of any character for the sole purpose of misleading ppl.

They weren't randomly arranged either.

See, we all know Eren's motivation is not to create a world where ALL OF HIS FRIENDS live a happy, long life. It was a wish of his, but in reality, the only way his friends can live happily, is by sacrificing Historia.

Even when they knew Historia was definitely gonna be sacrificed, they managed to live happily and enjoy whatever they were doing.

Armin himself claimed Eren is going along with the 50 years plan just to make himself feel better. That Eren shares his goal.

"He is definitely on our side!! There's no way he isn't!" - Said Armin.

"Eren.. came back to us..!" - Said Mikasa.

Yup.

They will be 100000% happier if Eren sacrificed Historia. And most importantly Sasha wouldn't have died. All happy, all alive.

Although Eren said it in the latest chapter, you can see he was lying to himself or/and Zeke. How did I know? Of all possible panels Isayama could've placed there, Sasha's death scene and the shard of all major characters sitting happily before the RTS arc - were chosen.

In Eren's mind, his friends would never be happy after what he did, this is why the panel included pre timeskip MAJCLE...etc. When happiness was possible, before he fully embraced who he is and decided to bring ruin to the world. He is not the selfless person who follows others desires anymore (exactly why there's an unacceptable gap between him and MA now, he can't be what used to make them happy in the past. He can't do something he doesn't want to (killing Historia) for them).

On the other hand, Sasha's death proved to him that most of them might die too, yet he moved forward anyways. Without stopping.

His feelings for them were genuine, his wish was valid but not his actions.

Now, if Isayama went all his way to show us this bit by bit, from 1 to 10, what is the possibility of the EH flashback being randomly thrown there?

As for the Farmer, huh, the moment she suggested making a child herself, all chances of Farmer being the dad were reduced to ZERO.

Realistically speaking, if running away was a possible option that Eren offered, no girl would chose a forced/out of love pregnancy instead.

A pregnancy is no less risky as she could die, goes in an early labor, and zeke could end up in random's soldier tummy till she gives birth.

A pregnancy is not more sufficient than the wine or what Eren offered.

The percentage of it success is even less than the other three, on top of that it would leave a permanent scare on Historia.

They would go to farmer ofc, because they need a confer up.

I may be Humanity’s enemy, but i’m your friend, Eren

Eren and Historia’s bond has been one of the strongest of the series since Uprising, and it’s beautiful to watch it continue to play out. He stands up to defend here when she’s willing to accept the world’s burden just like she stood up for him when he tried to do the same thing.

She’s so clearly moved that she tears up, because it reminds her of that independence she’s sacrificing, and that deep down she knows will have to sacrifice.

From discussing it with @harleyquilt, I think that the Survey Corps’ decision to go with Kiyomi’s third option and have Historia reproduce is what triggered Eren’s act of rebellion. The incidents framing these events are all tied to Eren’s worries about Historia.

This concern before his act of rebellion, the pregnancy after. And Hange comes to his cell to tell him this:

Why tell him this, in particular, unless her well-being was linked to his reason for acting out? I believe that, by retrieving Zeke and summoning the anger of the world down on Paradis, Eren acted to force the SC’s hand into choosing Kiyomi’s first option: to use the cataclysmic Titan power to annihilate Marley so that they would not need to hold onto the power indefinitely, thereby saving Historia from either sacrifice or the cursed future presented to her by Kiyomi.

Eren, after all, begins to speak and lose his temper when Hange asks him this:

When care for Historia is precisely why he acted. Again, the specific mention of Historia’s safety suggests that that was Eren’s motive. So he tells them:

There were other ways to fight Marley, but this is not what they were talking about. They were talking about looking after Historia. This was the only way Eren could save her. 

So I believe what finally pushed him to act was the Survey Corps deciding to have Historia reproduce. Hange chiding him over Historia’s well-being infuriated him when they were the one to condemn her to this in the first place, and Eren clearly resents them for it. A big part of why Eren embarked on the mission without telling anyone was likely because he felt he could no longer trust the Survey Corps, making Hange’s words here ironic.

And Hange questions their own abilities as Commander afterwards - not just because they couldn’t handle Eren, but because their actions with Historia led to Eren’s enormous reaction which has put them all at risk.

Historia is already pregnant, but Eren likely acted to save her from having to inherit the Titan power, reduce her lifespan, and restart the Reiss cycle of systemic patricide and matricide. She may have the chance to abort now too, if Eren continues to take advantage of the enormous influence he now realises he has over the Survey Corps’ actions.

But why did Historia agree to the scheme when she had decided to live for herself before? Perhaps because she knows her inspiration, Ymir, did not even stick to her rule herself and sacrificed herself for others.

Perhaps because she is putting only herself at risk here and not anyone she cares about, as with Eren before. But mostly I think it’s because, like for Eren, like for everyone now, the dreams of old are gone after finding the truth in the basement. The ocean only heralded greater doom. Now they must adapt however they can to survive, even if it means taking such extreme measures as these. 

Eren is not averse to extreme measures either, as we’ve seen in his attack on Marley; but, like Historia in Ch 66, he is when it involves someone he cares about.

We’ve seen Eren’s paradigm shift over the course of the manga: at the start, thinking himself a hero, he put humanity’s advancement above all else; now, realising he’s just a normal kid, he has put the lives of his loved ones even in the way of the mission.

This is why Sasha’s death was an especially brutal, and ironic, blow to him. He took innocent lives and put Paradis at risk to save his friend, only for another friend to die because of his actions.

Eren has driven his closest friends away from him, potentially spelt ruin for Eldia’s success, and called the ire of almost every nation upon his head. He is truly the enemy of the world.

But he is Historia’s ally.

It’s been a while… lol. 

I’m not sure if anyone is interested in reading my post anymore since tumblr is kinda dead now, but I don’t wanna post on any other social platform. Well then, this post might not different from other analyses you’ve already seen (I’m busy with another fandom lol), I just wanna write down my thought about EH. 😆 

First, I’m so thankful because EH conversation is drawn outside the farm. This is just like a revised combination of their conversations from c66 (EH in cave) and c70 (EH in farm).

“I… have to kill them.”

“… You want to kill them?”

“I… have to.”

She didn’t say anything about Eren killing their old friends, because she knew they became enemies. Other than the fact he telling Historia his plan because she’s his ally since 3 years ago, I like how in front of Historia, he could express his thoughts openly as he believed that she wouldn’t criticize him and she would encourage him just and would say something like “What we’re doing here can’t be wrong” as she did before.  

Of course, this time Historia had to say what’s he’s gonna do is unjustified. 

Yes, Eren’s attack is unjust because instead of doing the 50 years plan in which he just needs to release the Titans in Shiganshina to destroy Marley allied force as Armin said in c123, Eren rather brings ruin to the entire world to end the cycle of hatred (which will affect the future generation) and to save Historia’s children from being the sacrifices (which no one actually gives a fuck). Historia couldn’t say “What we’re doing here can’t be wrong” because this route he chose which can ensure her safety will involve the innocents lives, even their friends lives.  

I’ve been repeating this and I repeat once again: if Eren wanted his friends to live a long, happy life, he should’ve followed the 50 years plan while opposing Sieg’s Euthanasia plan. Following that way, he only has to sacrifice Historia instead of causing a chaos like the current situation.  

By the way, I want to quote an anonymous confession in my local fandom that I find it kinda interesting to read, it was from an Eren anti. It’s rare to see a sober cringevengers fan, let aside flaws in their argument, I think cringevengers fans need to open their eyes like this person, at least they know Eren’s not doing all of this because he wanna protecc muh nakama (Sasha’s crying in heaven).

“Anyone out there is sick of Eren in c130? Since c108, Eren said he wanted everyone of 104th to live a long, happy life ever after. But look at 104th now, do they look happy? Or do they look painful and feel depressed as fuck, huh? Sasha died, Armin was about to commit suicide by throwing himself into titan’s mouth, Mikasa still feels spleenful for being called a slave, Levi was like da fuck, am I a joke, my soldiers died because of what the shit is this?!? Look at their faces now, do they look happy and have any will to live on!? Meanwhile Eren is acting like “I did all of this for you, I beat you, I insulted you, I killed bunch of people all for you, but you ain’t understand me.” It sounds fucking psychotic. I hurt you to make you happy later!? Nani!? 

It reminds me of the image of violent parents who abuse their child because they’re unaware of what they’re doing is abusing since they think spare the rod, spoil the child. Beating & insulting are method to make you happy in future. Hell no. Eren does his great act then dies, he only has 4 years left, easy game for him. But remember, dying is easy, living is harder, wanting to die but can’t die is a fucking hell. Eren dies, ok he’s done, but what about the others?! They will have trauma/PTSD for the rest of their lifetime. Damn it.

Eren makes me sick. He’s fucking selfish.

Don’t tell me Eren’s doing it because he doesn’t have any other way. Does he do it since there’s no other way, or does he do it since he just wanna believe he was right about killing people, and gives zero fuck about other options!? No one know because he ain’t share any information to anyone. From head to toes, there’s only his subjective plan. He didn’t share anything to other brains to help him in thinking.”

The last part is full of bluff, but I’m glad this person still remembers what Eren had done to his friends. 

Why Eren why?

People say you’re doing all of this for your friends not only Historia, you said you want everyone to live a long, happy life but why don’t you just rumble a part of Marley, or just Marley’s military is more than enough to make a Grim Reminder to the world? Your brother Sieg believes that euthanization is the best salvation thus you had to pretend to follow his Euthanasia plan, I get it, but you could just tell your friends or MPs about this, to help them get rid of being at risk without knowing anything until they have to figure out themselves. Or… because they’re 50 years plan supporters, you could not tell them? lol.  

What you’ve done until now even Armin can’t understand lol.

Go back to Historia and Eren’s conversation.

We all know Historia isn’t a saint who’s willing to sacrifice herself unconditionally like Krista, but she’s indeed a kind girl always helping people in need according to Eren. Indeed, Historia is not a selfish bitch at all, Historia agreed to become the queen voluntarily as she wanted to rescue people in need, she’s been taking care of children and animals in her farm since then. However, just like Eren who once believed “on the other side of the ocean is freedom”, on the other side of her throne is not something as simple as “living a life with pride and helping abandoned people”, she has a new burden which is called responsibility as a leader of a nation and that means people have right to ask for her sacrifice despite that is against her will. 

That’s why sometimes I feel Historia is going back to her old-self a bit. Not the same Krista / Ymir when she was in Marley, but to me she was kinda like Ymir after getting a second life. Hence, I kinda don’t like how people exaggerate her selfishness to the point Historia looks like she doesn’t give a fuck about anyone other than herself, thus she got pregnant to avoid becoming a shifter, imo she’s just like a person who has their own normal selfishness, like, willing to help others is different with willing to die for anyone, unless there’s a person who is very important to you. 

And that’s exactly what Eren did. “I’d be happy to give up my life, but I’m not prepared to sacrifice Historia.”

As some other analyses already pointed, Historia is a person always seeking for love, the thing she never experienced fully from her parents and other 2 mother figures because they all abandoned her, not for her sake but for their egos. Her mother refused her existence until she died, her father wanted her to be titan for his place, Frieda lost to 145th king’s ideology and didn’t take action on the day Wall Shiganshina destroyed, Ymir left her because she wanted to payback the warriors for giving her a second chance to live… And there is only Eren left, he gives her the love she’s always yearning for and although he left her, it was for her sake this time. 

“It’s fine… Historia, run!!”

“No!!”  

“That’s enough for me.”

“Even if you’re okay with it, I’m not.”

The moment Historia fully realised her father abandoned her the second time by deceiving her to inject the serum, she decided to throw away the world to be on Eren’s side. And the moment Eren fully realised everyone is gonna abandon her by letting she become the breeding sow because they have no other choice, he decided to throw away the world to be on Historia’s side.

Part of the conversation in c130 also gave the same feeling when they were in the cave, Historia was about to forget the selfishness a human being needs but she would remember it eventually. 

As I said above, before being the queen, Historia is just a human being, she has the right to fear, to suffer for becoming a titan and a breeding machine. Ironically, it was the moment people need her help. Fortunately she still has Eren who can see through her nature, just like Ymir did. These two both want her to live a life with pride, a life without being killed or becoming a tool for the others. Therefore, what Eren said to Historia was to remind her she should value herself instead of throwing it away.   

That’s why in my point of view, Historia and Eren this time are repeating what they have done before in another way. I’m laughing at people who say Eren was manipulating Historia’s mind by reminding she’s the worst girl in the world. From what I’ve read, the reason Eren said it is totally for her sake. 

She said she’d never be able to live a life with pride if she couldn’t stop Eren, it was because she couldn’t do something to save Eren’s humane and other lives will be taken away by Eren, all of them are in need of her sacrifice. And in that moment, Eren reminded her that before living a life with pride by helping people, she needs to be the worst girl who didn’t let anyone kill herself, neither volunteer to get the titan power against her will. Yeah, you need to have a life for yourself first, Historia.     

Now I’m going to talk about “having the child” part.

I know there are many discussions, debates, analyses about this part already. I myself find kinda tired because of Isayama’s writing, it’s not like I’ve lost belief in EH, but I feel like he’s using cheap bait to write EH plot.

Just like the image below, maybe you already know this, unless Isayama was inconsistent, there were different EH meetings in farm and we all know there must be a reason for it. And that means both conversations between Eren and Historia (c70, c130) were interrupted by Mikasa directly (Mikasa being a third wheel herself) and indirectly (Sieg talking about her crush on him) when Eren reminded Historia what she said in the cave.  

And it seems people who dislike EH tend to forget Eren was lying to Sieg during the whole conversation in Liberio. These panels give me 2 impressions:

1/ Eren as a fellow anti-natalist of Sieg naturally would say “I want them to live a happy life” when in fact his friends wouldn’t and it would be a lie. However, if we assume that Eren said the truth from the bottom of his heart, scroll up my post, his friends will live a long life, yes, but they will live with sorrow regardless they will be able to stop him or not. Even if Eren uses the founding power to erase their memories, Ackermans and some other bloodlines are not affected and it will make their lives cursed after all.

Not to mention in the last memory shard, aside from the fact Erwin and Sasha no longer have a happy life, it’s the night before they taking back Wall Maria, not the scene in c108 (although it was drawn in the beginning of c130) when he said those touching words which is very appreciated by 104th fans. I mean, you wish your friends a happy life by thinking about the night before a war 4 years before instead of your sweet moments in c108… lol. 

2/ Eren is talking about another “them”, not “his friends”. It’s weird to reply Sieg with “they” (あいつら) when they were just talking about the affection of Mikasa for him, he should’ve said “she” (あいつ, やつ, 彼女) or something like “she and the others” instead. Other than the fact Eren was busy with his thoughts about Historia when Sieg explained to him about the protection when loving someone, it also gives me a feeling Eren is talking to himself rather than answer Sieg. And what a coincidence, when he remembered Historia with the child question, he said “they” right after that panel.

About Historia’s question.

Since JPN fandom is also confused with this part, I think I also can just give out my subjective personal opinion.

I’ve been avoiding to use “proposition” to have a child from Historia because this doesn’t sound like a proposition to me. JPN fans tweets I saw also have a mind setting that if Historia proposed to have a child, it sounds like this is a planned child (with farmer, lol?) more than a child born from love. Because she has no reason to do that, if someone tries to oppose this argument I want to reminder them that:

Eren already had wine plan and the wine had been given to the top ranks since Yelened revealed it to Eren about 10 months ago, Yelena more than anyone, she cares about her idol’s life the most, instead of counting on Historia’s ovulation, wine plan is more certain.

If Historia loves farmer (after being rejected by Eren blah blah blah), she would eventually marry him and have a happier face.

Historia was born because her mother, a mistress, wanted to be promoted as her father’s wife. It means her birth was to serve a plan, I don’t wanna recall antis say like mother like daughter anyway, to think Historia will give birth to a child for a plan is a disgrace to her character.

Eren has been against Historia having children for a plan, saying Eren told Historia to fuck farmer for his plan’s succession is insulting Eren as well.

Historia’s question was more like… she’s hiding the fact she has a child to me.

I mean, I don’t know but to me, Historia is just a girl at her 18. In first few months of pregnancy, I think she couldn’t tell if she really got pregnant or not. Even if she has female officers with her, everything was so obscure except some symptoms, or she just feels there’s something strange in her body. 

Thus, I feel like she was making a hypothesis for Eren. “Well Eren, this is just a hypothesis, it doesn’t mean it’s true, but let’s imagine, what do you think about me having a child…? Just for fun, I’m just joking haha… ha…”