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I just keep thinking about calliope thru out the day and frowning due to sadness
Ummmm jade
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Rose does not sound like an eloquent lady or what ever I know exactly what she sounds like but I can't explain it. She has that online girl voice. You'd know it if you heard it. Like that voice of girls who read posts out loud to you from their phones
Addendum. She does sound like an eloquent lady but with girl who read post out loud from their phone voice
Like rich anime ohoho woman mixed with moist critikal. Sorry to make you imagine that
homestuck lesson: if you hate yourself too much you will cancel out your own potential to do anything worthwhile. also you were always going to hate yourself because of the person you are. the self hatred is part of the essence of you and ripples across the continuum. maybe if you are lucky you can eventually fuse with another guy who hates themself and blow up
wait i forgot about dirk. he still does some things i guess. yay hope

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homestuck lesson: if you hate yourself too much you will cancel out your own potential to do anything worthwhile. also you were always going to hate yourself because of the person you are. the self hatred is part of the essence of you and ripples across the continuum. maybe if you are lucky you can eventually fuse with another guy who hates themself and blow up
roxy telling jane she should be at the club but roxy's idea of a club is like. a big square room where a bunch of carapacians take in turns walking diagonally from one square to the next. with music playing
Rose had a nightmare,,
I dont see enough mom and rose angst. I need that angst drawn the same amount as the bro and dave angst
so i did it myself lol
homestuck is simultaneously a story about 13 year olds coming into the world and a story about how everyone has an innate true self that cannot be altered and maybe it's a little rough that there are going to be characters who flourish under the nourishing rain of those two ideas and characters who are crushed between them when they clash against each other. but i think it does the latter characters the most justice to analyse them in the context of being crushed rather than to imagine some world in which they weren't
CG: IT INVOLVES SOMETHING TO DO WITH A YELLOW LAWN RING. [...] CG: I GUESS YOUR ENTIRE ESCAPE PLAN SOMEHOW PIVOTS CRITICALLY AROUND AN UNWATERED PIECE OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY???
rereading this while i was looking for something re: the yellow lawn ring somehow immediately reminded me of another line in the comic about watering lawn rings, from the second part of the Meenah walkaround:
No self respecting Alternian troll kid would dare keep a dry, unwatered lawn ring. Letting the grass outside your hive turn yellow is just begging to get yourself culled.
and obviously that second line is a callback to the first (about one and a half thousand pages later) but it strikes me as noteworthy that trolls having to water their lawns even gets so many as two references in the comic. like. huh. okay. homestuck actually is, textually, satirising the very concept of a suburb. you're telling me the grass in troll neighbourhoods doesn't even naturally grow like that ?!?
taking colour symbolism this seriously is a dangerous road to go down, but I can't help but wonder...
CALLIOPE: oh dear, this can't be good! CALLIOPE: i'd better hide. :U
since the lawn ring is a barrier keeping people apart, is "Letting the grass outside your hive turn yellow" a warning about what happens when you let those barriers break down? after all, a yellow lawn ring looks very much like an invitation to come in, in the form of a yellow brick road.
"just begging to get yourself culled" is the paranoia that the lawn ring turning yellow means Lord English is at your door ready to kill you. the suburb/subgrub is an artifice designed to prevent interpersonal connection, and Lord English is the spectre of the homeowner's association making sure you keep those barriers watered and well-kept

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well now that i have finished the comic proper
i really feel like.....everyone has forgotten what a fucking troll andrew hussie is. even i forgot the extent to which hussie, tongue-in-cheek or not, held open resentment toward their fanbase
its the kind of thing that can make you question who homestuck is even for, sometimes. the tonal whiplash is pretty noticeable at certain points. it can be this incredibly heartwarming and sincere comic, or at least appear that way, before returning to mean spirited horseshit and punishing you for taking it too seriously...like for as many bones as the fans are thrown just as many are used to club them in the face. and that isn't even considering the epilogues or anything else post-canon since i havent read them yet
like even if they do have good intentions there's so much that goes completely unaddressed. it comes off wishy washy at best
but for some reason we are meant to take them as this Representation Messiah.....when half the shit they get praised for isnt even IN the text and much of what is IN the text is not flattering if we're approaching it from a progressive angle
it just leaves me wondering what the fuck happened and how we got here. like. hussies desired fanbase was the somethingawful forums and they got Homo Teens instead and the way they chose to handle that was akin to mom lalonde's "is this mother's misguided love or mother's passive-aggressive contempt" behavior
c'est la vie. i did enjoy it, i do enjoy it. a lot more of my frustration comes from people trying to squeeze blood from a stone than from the sociopolitical failings of a 2000s era webcomic that evolved to sorta kinda give a shit about the marginalized people also reading it. it's like, maybe two or three degrees removed from that picture of eric cartman saying "i use any pronouns thanks for asking!" and everyone going "he fucking said that (:"
Ok I guess I'm reading guidestuck now
I was pissing around on the mspa website and clicked the forums and that took me to mspfas and I was like oh sure I'll look at a couple pages.
*reads to page 444*
I'll probably start the epilogues tomorrow. Probably
.....
yeah i
im just gonna give it a day. i think tonight is not the night for this
i actually think despite enjoying the first acts quite a bit
the near-end of the comic might be my favorite of the two?
i remember people being so up in arms but because i was stupid and did not understand what i was reading anyway i couldn't even tell you for a fact what they were upset about. the idea of retconning at all, the idea of dream bubbles, the idea of no more dream bubbles...various character development qualms...
but all of that stuff made sense to me. like, i don't have any particular sense of lost potential or any character i was like fuck how dare you forget about them and leave them to rot. like, did people genuinely expect the ghosts to be able to come along with them into the new world or what...
i am actually relieved at the utter lack of gamzee for the better part of the end of the comic. i do not like gamzee and you are not really meant to like gamzee.
and now i really understand what My Good Friend Jake meant about like....some people take the classpect stuff to be very serious destinies the characters are meant to fulfill based on inherent traits they possess. and yeah they all say a lot of stuff like that...but like...i think that its a forest for the trees thing. the grand destiny of their lives is what it is because they are in a story. their classes and aspects are assigned to them in order to advance the story. not every character advances the story to the same extent because that'd be insane. and in like, any other work of fiction, you could make the case, because you wouldnt be getting this fuckin doylist about it without coming across as a tool, but in this one the grotesque metafuckery of it all changes the context. like the paradoxical throughline of every single thing they do is what Creates the destiny. they were always meant to do it because they had to do it to make sure they existed in the first place, which they hadnt done until suddenly they had to do it. sburb is some disgusting game that drinks its own koolaid backwash forever and ever until someone breaks the cycle by godmodding
i dont know im not smartboy mcanalytical but yeah like not everyone was going to get Their Big Arc because
i guess im glad they threw tavros a singular bone though. good for him

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i fucking
did it
i finished
homestuck
twice lifetime record
once lifetime record with a semblance of reading comprehension
i was so close. so close to saying the words: "i dont get why people thought this was a bad ending. that was pretty good. obviously with a story of this epic of proportions and length anything was probably going to fall short of extremely inflated fan expectations and disappoint at least a handful of people, but most of this culminated in a way that i found logical and fulfilling to what it spent so long setting up"
and then the snapchat thing. yeah that stumped me. cute moments in there. but it stumped me. so calliope...created a black hole where the green sun was, right...? and then....i guess that swallowed up all the lord english damage and by extension the dream bubbles/whatever was left behind in their old world and thats why we get that like split second shot of an agonized nepeta being owned by the void
and caliborn is able to send them snapchats For Some Reason and uhh i dont know. i dont fucking know with that. sure
minor nitpick but i dont like that they end the story in the exact same outfits. draw them some drip befitting of 20 year olds
i mean we also have a lot of people just left out of the snapchat ending which is also sucks but i get that it would have been very time consuming to get literally everyone in there. still i mean you made it this far. what's 100 more pictures. they didnt even have to be animated
yeah no i really feel like....it was the literal VERY end that was nothingburger. hm. i mean it could be worse. i dont think i'm mad about it i'm just like yueah alright
this karkat does not make me feel maternal. i would leave this karkat to fend for itself. which would be fine because they do that anyway