Unhinged SNS shippers at it again đ
Note: This is a full blown rant as an SS/NH shipper so skip if you don't wanna read. No hate to the part of SNS shippers who keep to themselves and their ship and don't go around outside their spaces getting in other fan's noses on how its "cAnOn". Y'all are chill <3
I thought I was over this but God forbid this fandom leaves an SS/NH shipper be. So here I am, pissed at the same crowd for the same reasons.
So yeah, like the title says. Problematic s*sunaru shippers are forefathers of all problematic shippers, and the founders of that Goddamn modus operandi.
You'd think a fanon ship fans would be more interested in headcanoning and creating a relationship between the characters, create AUs and fiction/art set in off screen scenes: you know, actually go ahead and create a relationship that canon did not give them (especially in case of NaruSasu since Kishimoto canonically made them reincarnated brothers)
But noooooooo. God Forbid these people go the easy route and let the fandom be a peaceful space. They are never content with shipping and making headcanons, no, they have convinced themselves that what they want to happen is actually canon.
The worst part is that they want everyone to accept the same.
This is why they feel way too smug in invading other peoples spaces and leaving comments or ruining stuff.
And boyyyy. This is not your average obsessed shippers. These people are out there making Pinterest twitter levels of problematic.
A Sasusaku art with Naruto somewhere in the background? You'll find someone has replied with a picture of same but drawn a line between Naruto and Sasuke and smuggly written "fixed it :D"
I kid you not, I once saw someone having replied to an artist by smudging yellow on Sakura's hair and changing "she" in Sasu's speech bubble (refering to sakura) to "he" and captioning it "all better"
And on instagram too. "Sasuke only loves Naruto" unabashedly on a Sasusaku post.
"Naruto is only with Hinata because she looks like Sasuke". On a Naruhina post (she absolutely doesn't)
A comment about how Naruto would lose it if Hinata ever died and the reply is straight up "nO bUt hE wOuLd Do It FoR hiS bOyFriEnd" in an NH post
Trasnlation of first comment in 3rd image: "but Sasuke's gf is Naruto"
They feel so comfortable in doing shit like this because they think their shit is canon and they have "proofs" of the same that they parrot everytime someone doesn't agree with them when they make these claims in a post outside their tags.
The truth, however, is that there are no proofs if their ships. They'll just purposefully misread canon and repeat the same 3-4 points to "prove" their ship. They act like they don't understand general context clues which are applicable not just to Naruto manga but to pop culture in general.
Some of my favourite examples are:
1. "Naruto and Sasuke kissed" and its clearly supposed to be a gag for laughs. Both are disgusted ffs. Try explaining that to them and you get hit with "diD ThE mAnGa ExPLiCiTLy SaY sO?"
2. "Naruto said that he isn't Ashura and Sasuke isn't Indra" and the meaning is clearly supposed to be 'we won't make the same mistakes as we are not the people we were in that life anymore' but you'll chose to read it as 'he is saying they aren't brothers'.
To say all this when the whole reason Hagromo told Naruto the story of Indra and Ashura and how they were reincarnations of his sons was to explain why Naruto felt he and Sasuke were trapped in the complicated, deeply loving relationship since past two lives: BECAUSE they were brothers in soul.
Like, if you think Naruto and Sasuke were actually "iN lOvE" in canon, do you think Hagoromo drawing parallels and explaining that they have same relationship as his sons was him suggesting incest between his sons?
3. "He called him his one and only" friend. He called him his one and only friend. Its right there in the text. The NEXT fucking word.
4. "Naruto did not know what brotherly bond felt like. He was confused about his feelings" Sasuke had a brother and he still agreed their relationship was brotherly.
Then, there's also making shit up. Not just misinterpreting canon, straight up PULLING stuff outta thin air.
"Kishi actually wanted narusasu but producers were actually homophobic" is a fine example of this. This one spread like a wildfire and was parroted by shippers across platforms.
There was also not an iota of truth to it. On the contrary, the mangaka actually stated in interviews that he modelled the bond after himself and his twin brother.
Then, there's labelling actual canon as "fanon" because it doesn't fit whatever they actually conjured up (and whole heartedly believed to be canon.)
For them in The Last Naruto is OOC, and in Retsuden its Sasuke. (And they do it in the tags of these material with all that audacity, ofcourse).
Sure, I believe in fans rejecting fandom stuff they don't like (proud Star Wars Seqeuls denier here) but the reason for denying the supplementary material here is because it destroys one important foundation behind them calling SNS canon: it prevents them for interpreting interactions between Naruto and Sasuke in the main manga as them showing each other affection.
What I mean by that is these ppl claim that Naruto and Sasuke did not have many explicitly romantic moments with their future partners. Although there were several moments where they showed care through trying to protect them and looking after Sakura and Hinata, those were few and far inbetween and gave these shippers enough deniability to claim that Nrt and Ssk "cannot express their feelings to each other explicitly" because they are "confused" and the platonic care is actually a covert way of expressing their "LoVe" for each other.
But once additional content is made to flesh on the romantic aspect (again, since kishi cannot write romance) , they act like those materials are OOC, and mock it in the SS/NH shippers tags because "NaRuTo aNd SaSuKe wOuLd NeVeR aCt LiKe ThAt".
Like, what are you even basing that claim on? When in the entire Naruto manga was their love language shown for you to actually know how they would act romantically?
Or does the actual romance seem OOC now because a caring platonic bond was headcanoned to be romantic?
Miss m'am you know exactly whats happening here and playing dumb won't change that.
Notice how I used m'am in the line above? That's because the deranged kinda shippers that do this are almost always women. Women with yaoi fetish, to be specific.
The reason I am calling it a fetish? Because these people do this shit almost compulsively, to the point that the basic ettiquete of letting people enjoy what they want goes right out of the window. Not to mention being so desperate theu start fabricating the canon.
Other than that, the compulsion often shows up in a way that makes it clear they are obsessed with giving the two the same tropes as a toxic yaoi couple, as seen from them making comments like how "sasuke gets jealous seeing naruto talk to other men" (its just Shikamaru or some other friend) "sasuke is actually waiting for naruto" (he's standing with sakura, naruto isn't even in the picture) "naruto was waiting for his boyfriend" (Naruto is with his wife) "the upside down spiderman kiss poseđ" (its a TWELVE year old sasuke looking at naruto after trying his level best to punch a hole in Naruto's heart, and the commenter is a grown ass woman)
Then, there's mistagging shit on purpose to get in other ships tags:
Why was this in the Sasusaku tag again? The reel itself is Sasuke coming out to Sakura AFTER marriage and being absolutely inconsiderate (and actually annoyed) at her for crying.
And mind you, the rest are comments I read under actual clips from the anime or under fan content which was not at all about narusasu. They'll see either of the two characters and immediately go ahead acting like there's an off screen moment happening between their ship and do not wait for a moment before turning the wholesome content by non sns creators into a yaoi where sasuke is toxic and they are cheating on their wives. (Or just straight up make content where Sasuke is toxic and cheating on his wife and deliberately send it in the wrong tags, as seen above)
Now idk about you, but from what I know, toxic, abusive yaoi is not generally obssessed over for its literary insights.
And the thing is , I'm not even saying SS fans or NH fans are blameless, they cause the fights too (especially us SS folks, I know I am responsible for my fair share of them) , but dear lord. The sheer audacity with which these people do it (changing an artist's art, filterating into the SS/NH tags all that much) is outta this local supercluster.
Like, I used to be a MASSIVE NaruSasu hater, and it was mostly because of their fandom.
To be fair, it had a lot to do with the ship itself too. Fair to say, I hate it.
But my problem with the shippers was never just about that. Like yeah, I called them out over romanticising the bond between Nart and Sask a fuckload number of times but there are other proships that I hate way, wayyy more.
ItaSaku (Sakura is mostly 15 and Itachi 21 in their art)
But I have never really bothered these shippers because they stayed in their corners of the fandom and never intruded and ruined anyone else's experiences, except maybe a tryst or two with ItaSasu.
So safe to say, I wouldn't even bother the SNS shippers and grow to hate it as much if the rabid part of their fandom were not the way they were.
And we all know the way they are, sadly, because they intrude your tags, posts, reels, pins etc. and act deranged to ensure that you know.