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you know the cast is gonna keep getting asked about jane. the moment they change their minds and start saying they believe, tinker bell (stranger things) is coming back.
hilarious that i've never once shut up about kingdom hearts since i got here but i
didn't know there was a gameplay trailer until just now
don't care LMAOOO
they picked a very bad time for this. i'm not interested. it's been 7 years. most of them have been complete radio silence or bad news. i've seen the gameplay. and i'm not trying to figure out what's going on. don't jingle keys at me. i only care about this 😆 i've been here for so long. creators have gotta start telling me cool stuff or else just leave me alone
and like. they'll just fuck it up kgfdjhg i can't do this again. if anyone's gonna start some bullshit like what's happening with this show it's gonna be that game. then it's gonna end with some bullshit and it'll be another 7 years. i can't do it again. call me when there's good news.
If there really are surveillance cameras around Hawkins, surely some of them are in the mirrors.
The lab, including the Rainbow Room, is full of surveillance cameras and one-way mirrors.
Which reminds me of this scene with rainbows and a "one way" sign pointing toward the mirror.
I know this scene can be interpreted through a queer lens, and I think it's also interesting to view it through a surveillance lens.
I mean...
And let's not forget, there was a camera in Truman's bathroom mirror.
I fear S5 is actually papa's play.
A play by Martin Brenner?
I mean, this man sucks at drawing. I guess he sucks at writing too.

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When it's cold I'd like to time travel
Okay I made a comment in another post and I've mentioned this before, but this is all about the Moby song, When It's Cold I'd Like to Die.
It's clearly an important song because they played it 3 times. 3 to be exact, in seasons 1, 4 and 5. Once for Will and twice for Max. But I'll get to that later.
First, other than a newer version of Heroes, which was an 80s song that Peter Gabriel revisited in the 2000s, When It's Cold is the ONLY song in the series that isn't from the 80s or earlier.
It released in 1995.
It was the final track on Moby's album Everything is Wrong.
The singer on the track, Mimi Goese, was in a dream-pop band called Hugo Largo in the 80s
"Where were you when I was lonesome? Locked away with freezing cold."
"I don't want to swim forever. When it's cold I'd like to die"
in 2006, the song was played in The Sopranos. The show the Duffers have been talking about recently. And it was played for a dreamlike scene with the main character Tony, who at that time was in a medically induced coma. It's an episode that splits into two different realities and deals with the subconscious. Which sounds familiar.
The song fits but...
Of course it fits. In Stranger Things, we're dealing with depression, comas, and "He likes it cold." All things which fit the vibe and lyrics. Also the first two times it plays, someone actually appears to die on screen. First Will, who is revived by Joyce and Hopper. Than Max, who is revived by El. The third time is Max waking up in the improbable hospital scenario.
But again, this song is from 1995.
Yes, they actually have a lot of interesting anachronisms on ST that point to the timeline potentially being wrong. Cars and game rules and a newer version of Planck's Constant etc.
But the music was pretty steady. And this was the only song from the 1990s.
Music and radio signals are huge on this show. In 4, it was all about music being a lifeline back to reality.
So why choose this song not once but 3 times if it didn't mean anything? There are other haunting melodies that would make us cry while someone is potentially dying. There were other songs to play that would have made us more hopeful when Max finally woke up.
But no. We have "let's exchange the experience" from kate bush 20 million times in 5 and a song from the 1990s about depression and dying popping up again too. It feels like it was done with purpose.
We've talked about Heroes a lot around here. But I don't think we've talked about the Moby mistake enough. And what it might mean about the timeline.
i started thinking about all of this because of this post about will telling people to run
they filmed the “run” scene twice right? they wouldn’t just edit his eyes not to be white. that’s a ton of work? maybe they did but i don’t know. maybe they just edited them white! but probably not. and like obviously for spoiler reasons they wouldn’t include a shot of will with white eyes in the trailer. but also they’d definitely wanna use that scene for the trailer. it’s too powerful not to include it. but they only used it for the date announcement trailer right? i remember having to go look for where people were getting the “run” scene. what the fuck.
lots of shows and movies will film stuff or include things specifically for trailers. and sometimes trailers are edited by a completely different team, so the stuff audiences see in trailers might get edited out of the final product by the time it’s released. trailers can get crazy sometimes. there’s lots of different ways a trailer can be edited. but if they were sending clips to a different team for the trailer, they would send them the fake one to keep will's powers a secret. but! if the trailer was edited in-house, then there would be no need for that. i'm gonna say netflix is capable of editing their trailers in-house.
and obviously they film things more than once to get a shot. but it's interesting that they have filmed variations of shots. at least it looks that way. i don't trust myself anymore lol i can't definitively prove it. but what it looks like to me is they filmed it before putting noah's contacts in. and his voice sounds more tired in the episode. it reminds me of when voice actors have to do all their battle cries and death screams on the last day of recording because it kills their voices 😆
anyway. i just know there’s something up with that field scene! it's been 5 months and i know there's something going on. i just don't know what for sure. it looks like it was filmed on multiple days. for what tho? did they decide to add to it?? did they film variations specifically to splice them together later on? maybe because it's an altered memory??
like the hair is forgivable i think. that happens between shots. the lighting? eh... time passed. the sun went down a little as they were filming maybe. outdoor shoots are tricky especially a dialogue heavy one like the field scene. i don't know. and like i'm not really worried about the clouds (unless they were added which is plausible for them). and then for some reason they color graded the sky between shots. ok? weird. you take all that and put it together and it's just so disjointed!!
these are completely unedited screenshots i took the other day.
something is off. and okay i know that they've filmed group walking shots and then split up the characters so they can have a moment together before. but it feels like an entirely different moment when you watch it all the way through. i remember feeling that way the first time i saw the episode. that was way before all this. my honest to god thought back then was that they must've gone back to shoot another scene. i just figured they added a moment because they had another idea and decided the scene needed more. i'm going with that intuition. i might not know much about filming, but i felt that something was weird the first time i watched it.
and i’ve never been 100% certain about the tower changing colors before because they are filming under trees here. maybe the lighting on the camera works differently so colors can look different. i really don’t know. but just look at this!
maybe it’s just how colors appear differently depending on the screen, but look at the colors in the corners between the poles. that’s bright green blobs!!! it's like painted over in photoshop green. that looks like something i would do LMAO i could do that.
green dreamscape WSQK tower pride flag
MIKE GET OUT!!!!!!
oh yeah. the demobats died after vecna was shot out of the window right? why? did vecna actually die and the mind flayer revived him? is there more than one?
it’d be so ironic if there was more than one 001
oh yeah. the demobats died after vecna was shot out of the window right? why? did vecna actually die and the mind flayer revived him? is there more than one?

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running in stranger things is so interesting. because it’s usually a good thing. will uses it as a warning. and if he had just kept running from the mind flayer in s2 things might be different. also if eddie had just kept running he might’ve survived since the demobats dropped dead a few minutes later. and then there’s “running up that hill” obviously. running saved max.
they tried to make eddie’s whole arc about how he needed to stop running but running saved his life multiple times. when he stopped, he died. and when will stopped running, he got possessed. it’s very inconsistent. what is the message?
🎄RUN🎄
GUYS IM DYINGGGGG
Re-watching S5E8 and El’s sacrifice just happened and I’m noticing now that the ‘gate’ disappeared and turned back into the front of the library, and the sign has been destroyed so that it just says ‘Public L’
Like what fucking TROLLS they really called romantic Mileven endgame a humiliation ritual! Purple Rain scene is hetslop confirmed
so there’s this fuckery with the Halloween time stamps on Will’s tape (screenshots from the og post), after which S2 has a track Eight Fifteen in the official playlist… what I have to add here is:
I knew the 815 door had a lock on it
(I felt ST should have this number somewhere…)
i kind of think the people still in this tag in march deep down want to believe. listen! it's easy to believe! watch...
all you gotta do is look at a few things from the show and then the rest all falls into place:
the dial changing color
the dial is gray in episode 1, but it's red in episode 5. the voltage dial is red in shock jock. and that dial is the shock part of the plot. it's important. we get lingering shots of the dial and the camera zooms in on it. they made a big deal about this dial in the crawl to foreshadow shock jock. why wouldn't they do it again?
the dial changed color in the same episode it was established that objects changing color are roadsigns for navigating a false reality.
editing mistakes do happen. continuity errors happen. things get fucked up on sets between shots all the time. it's usually not a big deal. but in the past, stranger things has fixed whatever fucks with the show by the next morning after the episode premieres. they did it in s4 when the burning helicopter wasn't included in the shot behind mike and jane. that was fixed by morning. in s5 when the under armor logo could be seen on holly's shirt, that was airbrushed out by morning.
"but you can see mike's cut off sleeve under his jacket. they didn't fix that!" why would they? it was a good take, so yes, they're gonna use it. and it's a harmless movie mistake. do you know how much money and effort it would take to edit that? and then reupload the whole episode... for that?? things have to actually fuck with the show to get edited retrospectively. mike's missing sleeve is not a clothing brand that shouldn't exist for another 10 years. it's a blip of a movie mistake.
and i'd argue that the dial changing color (with its own lingering shot!) would fuck with the continuity of the show. it functions like the merry-go-round in camazotz and certainly implies that its a sign for a false reality. it's worth editing. and an easy fix! they could go back to episode 1 and paint it over. but they haven't.
and the set designers have an incredible attention to detail. go look at how they design the stranger things sets. it's wild. they're not gonna dismantle a part of their set in the middle of filming just to paint it because they decided red's a good color.
ask yourself what's more likely. that a whole team of professional set designers and editors fucked up? this entire time?? or that they just did it on purpose lol
the trap in episode 4
will's behavior in vol. 1 mirrors his possession in season 2. we were told to rewatch s2 before s5 so that we would notice what mike and joyce didn't. there is an eerie similarity between will's behavior in vol. 1 and the stages of possession he endured in s2.
in s2, we watch will go through all the stages. from the iconic he likes it cold thing, to joyce suggesting "what if you didn't have to use words?" which sends will into a dazed frenzy as he draws the tunnels from his now-memories. then, he uses the pictures of those drawings to lure the hawkins lab soldiers into a trap. although it's a speedrun, this is what happens to him in s5.
whenever he taps into the "demovision," it's very reminiscent to what happens to him when the shadow monster catches him on the field. then in the turnbow trap, will takes his coat off in november. and in sorcerer, he starts to frantically paint on the barn wall to explain the visions he got from the demogorgon. now we get the dialogue parallels. s2 will: "i just know he doesn't want me to see there." -> s5 will: "i had this feeling he didn't want me there. i wasn't supposed to see it." s2 will: "i think it's important to him." -> s5 will: "i could feel that it's important to him."
"but will taking off his jacket is not a big deal!" it's acknowledged in the script. will's not wearing a coat in november! is basically written between the lines lol. joyce's joke about catching a cold lets the audience know that it's cold. and it's not a costuming mistake. "it's just a callback!" a callback to will being possessed? for what?? just a laugh?! right, right...
these events are scattered over vol. 1. they aren't just references to previous plot points. there isn't just one single fun moment for the audience to point at. these moments operate like an echo. like trying to piece together an important memory that's so close to fading.
the mind flayer ribcage was a trap. i know that you're disappointed with the vecna battle only being like a whopping 6 minutes or some shit. you're allowed to question why it would be like that! it's probably because it was a trap!!
will is vecna's builder
will built the tunnels in season 2 while he slept. this is an odd thing to drop on audiences. it's an expansion of s2 lore that didn't need such specific language. we've always known that will is a spy. why add builder to will's resume?
the tunnels could have easily been included in will's spy skills. as in maybe he laid the groundwork or provided vecna with the blueprint. but no. he built them!
"how do you think the tunnels came to be, william? you built them each and every night you slept." -> that dialogue is interspersed with specific flashbacks of will's eyes moving and the tunnels spreading. that eye movement looked like REM sleep back in s2. however, the show has directly linked that eye movement with the usage of power. before this, we get a close-up on will's sleeping face while he's passed out on the WSQK couch. a long, lingering zoom on will. sleeping... and his eyes are moving.
jane, kali and henry can all use their powers with their eyes open. however, when they're closed, their eye movement signals that they're using power deep within themselves. eye movement is linked to powers.
you're allowed to ask yourself follow-up questions about the events and what appears to be discarded plot lines. there isn't much that vecna needs will for. why is he keeping will around? why did he let him go in the MAC-Z?
camazotz itself is an incredible feat of vecna's powers. it shows you just how strong he has gotten. what could he possibly need will to build for him now? perhaps a bigger and better false reality.
"he's moving his eyes because he's spying!" when will spies in s2, he stares. he doesn't blink, he doesn't move. he stares. "he's fighting off vecna!" then why do we get a flashback to s2 directly mirroring will's eye movement in s5? look at vecna's victims in s4. nancy, chrissy and max were all trying to get away from vecna while possessed, but their eyes were fluttering, not moving back and forth behind their lids.
there is something incredibly suspicious about these events.
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see?! easy to believe! if you're still in these tags in march, that's probably for a reason. just think about it! you're allowed to think wow something's wrong and go from there. that's how fandom works and that's probably how you should be thinking about the media you consume. it's good for you lol.
no, you don't have to believe in Everything. but one theory you don't agree with doesn't dismiss all the evidence. and i will say, creating a theory is hard work. even trying to summarize the show for this post took me a very long time. it's very rude to discredit someone's theory to prove you're the rational fan...? i guess?
you don't need to post like you're preaching to people out of concern to talk yourself out of it. you don't need to reply to posts just asking questions so you can find a hole in the theory that gets you out of believing. and you don't need position yourself as the smarter fan. i’m sorry to you, but that makes you look more ridiculous than you think we do.
look at what was in the show and go from there. simple. it'll all make sense. if it still doesn't, then you should block the tags and move on.
go revisit that really good theory you were mean about in the past. i bet it makes sense now 😆

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also like. we're 5 months into this ok. if someone scrolls through the tag right now, they're seeing stuff that's been built upon since playgate which was right after vol. 2. there is a lot to this.
Interesting people with Internalised CG Phobia 👀
Type 1: "I don't know what CG is. Somebody enlighten me."
If you're genuinely curious, that's completely fine! There are Tumblr posts, TikToks, Twitter threads, YouTube videos... lots of places to start.
Type 2: "What's CG? Come on guys, it's just bad writing."
If you've already decided the answer, don't waste your own mental energy. This is a community of people who enjoy thinking outside the box. If you prefer blaming the writers and have no interest in opening the curiosity door or looking behind the curtain, then sadly, this isn't your cup of tea.
Type 3: "I've seen a lot of CG posts. Can someone explain it to me? None of them connect."
That's because CG isn't one single belief system with an official handbook. It's a collective theorising space. Everyone has different perspectives, different analyses, and different theories they've resonated with. Some ideas are probably wrong, some have a lot of potential, and some are just really cool thought experiments.
If you genuinely want to go down the rabbit hole, you need to be willing to do some reading yourself. People can't simply "enlighten" you in one Tumblr ask. not because they don't want to, but because it's a huge topic. There is no universally agreed CG theory that everyone follows.
So if you want to be part of it, you'll have to explore it yourself too. Nobody is going to spoon-feed years' worth of posts, theories, and analysis.
Type 4: Our favourite people in the whole CG tag—the trolls 💀
They don't even like CG, yet somehow have all the time in the world to lurk here. It's fascinating. One day it's one person, the next day it's another. Honestly, I don't have much to say. I've blocked most of them anyway. Enjoy your side quest while we enjoy ours.
Now, here's the thing:
I don't have a problem with people asking for help. What I find irritating is when people come into the tag pretending they know absolutely nothing, ask theorists for explanations and recommendations, get help from genuinely kind people in the community... and then turn around and mock the entire tag.
If you don't believe in it, that's completely fine. But then don't waste other people's time. Most people here have jobs, studies, families, responsibilities. This is a hobby, not customer service.
One thing I genuinely love about Tumblr CG is that there aren't constant fights like on Twitter. Most theorists are supportive of each other's ideas. People can handle constructive criticism without bullying each other. We don't all believe in the exact same theory, and that's what makes it interesting. People aren't here chasing likes and retweets. they're just sharing ideas because they enjoy it.
I understand why people suddenly show up here months after the show aired. Curiosity exists. Maybe they're interested but don't want to admit it publicly. That's why I call it "internalised CG phobia"
And if you're genuinely curious, people here will help you. But understand that they don't have endless time to research things for you. We all have internet access. Read. Explore. Form your own perspective. If you still have questions afterwards, people will usually be happy to discuss them.
But if someone takes the time to help you, maybe don't reward that by mocking them afterwards.
And of course, this is a public space. You can post whatever you want. Just don't be surprised if people choose to block negativity so they can get back to what they came here for: theorising.
Note: Sorry. Just needed to let out some frustration