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yurifying severance one discord at a time
I haven't seen any discords for the hellyna fans so I went ahead and made one---- link below
https://discord.gg/x2GYqGkW
markhellyna slander not allowed sorry guys

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Big fan of severance. Last week everyone was sucking and fucking. This week they’re like oh don’t forget about the woman being tortured in the basement tho :)
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These are EXACTLY my thoughts about Helena and the endgame for this character. She isn't that different from her innie, she just was raised in different circumstances that shaped her personality in a different way.

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SEVERANCE (2022 - )
TROJAN'S HORSE | THE YOU YOU ARE Severance – 2.05 | 1.04
I think a lot about this scene. They’re only conscious for like a second before the elevator doors open. Helly wouldn’t have the time to get in the corner before the doors open. This was Helena who crouched in the corner like this. I think she was panicking in there before she switched into Helly.
Let’s go through the events of Severance from Helena’s POV cause it’s wild from Helena’s POV as well as Helly’s. (I’m just going by memory so I may miss a few things or mix up the timeline a bit) I am not moralizing any of Helena’s actions cause this is just from her POV.
You get (presumably) coerced into splitting your consciousness in half by your abusive father to serve the cult you were raised in.
You then get the brain surgery and then you wake up in a hallway. Millchick says it’s cause you need time to adjust. But it’s okay because sometimes this just happens you’re not trying to leave.
Then you keep ending up on the other side of the door! Millchick comforts you and tells you about how grateful he is that you’re here and you’re happy to get any approval at all even if it is from your family’s cult. Maybe you’ll get some approval from your father.
Then you run through the door MORE! You’re pretty sure at this point that Millchick is lying to you when he says your innie is realizing she does want to be there but you run back through anyway.
Your innie asks to resign you reject that resignation (whether that was Helena’s decision or the board’s is not yet something we know)
Then on a later day you wake up in the elevator and your hair is all messed up your wrist is bandaged up and your makeup is running and you feel just such DEEP exhaustion but you don’t know why
Then you show up on another day and you’re in an elevator with a cd from a camcorder in your hands you watch it and your innie is asking to resign again. But this time she’s threatening your fingers??
So you record a video back (whether those were Helena’s words or words placed in front of her to say by the board yet to be seen)
THEN you wake up in an elevator GASPING for air not knowing what’s happening. I guess your innie tried to KlLL you??
The you’re forced to go back so when you do you crouch in the corner of the elevator in panic before you turn into your innie
THEN later you’re getting ready to do a speech about how great Severance is (you certainly haven’t had a good time but the board demands you do this so you’re gonna have to fake it)
Then all of a sudden you wake up being pulled off stage by Cobel you don’t even remember getting on the stage!
And you’re told that your innie took you over and said a bunch of bad stuff about Severance onstage so after your father insults you for a while you then you’re forced to read an embarrassing script in front of the whole country or the whole world talking about how you drank too much and thought it was a funny joke at the time.
THEN. You’re looking over footage of Helly who is your other consciousness and you see her kissing Mark. You see her being more free and more loved than you ever have. So you rewind that kiss over and over again.
You’re told you have to go back down there to the severed floor but it’s okay you can pretend to be Helly you don’t actually have to be her. And you actually are having a good time? You are having fun with them you’re feeling free youre feeling loved for the first time in your life, you’re making jokes about your family’s ridiculous lore it’s awesome. You’re trying to soak in the love they all have for Helly because you’ve never felt love and you don’t understand you can’t steal love because you’ve never had love before. You come clean with one of the innies about your self hatred.
Then one of the innies finds out you’re Helena and tries to DROWN YOU. To get back your other consciousness that lives in your body your innie who they love more than you. You thought they liked you but now you’re realizing that they just liked you cause they thought you were Helly you’re still stuck in a loveless life now. And now as a bonus you’re having an identity crisis about how Helly is essentially who you could’ve been if you weren’t weighed down by your family’s name.
Then you’re thinking “I definitely won’t have to go back now obviously I’ll tell my father” then you’re told that no you are going back down and you’re going back as Helly to the place where all of this happened because “The Board appreciates your sacrifice” and no one thinks the trauma you’ve faced so far is actually a big deal not even your father he won’t even talk to you about it. So you go back down against your will to the innie floor again and let the consciousness take you over again.
There is a really sweet thing that I need to point out about this scene.
We see Helly and Mark stepping into conflict. Mark is very shaken, his trust for Helly undermined to the point where he can’t fully tell her apart from Helena even now.
But what I find most interesting is that he doesn’t lie to her. Yes, he’s withholding crucial information from her, but he never told her any lie in this exchange.
He’s mentally preparing himself for the conversation, he doesn’t stop her from coming in, he says “hey” first (!), honestly tells her that he’s not okay. Helly tries to shift the tone to the more warm and lighthearted side, smiling every now and then, trying to establish the connection, and Mark’s even mirroring her mimic, although he clearly doesn’t feel well in that moment.
At some point she says “Mark?” and he immediately responds with “yeah?”, inviting her to elaborate. Not just being silent like a resentful pouty kid.
What I really want to emphasise is that he’s still aligned with her in that moment. That woman is still Helly R, the same woman that he cared about and protected from day one. The red thread, the core of their bond between them is still there and no amount of cold words from his mouth can change that.

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The cast of Severance (Adam Scott, Zach Cherry, Britt Lower) took over a glass-walled replica of the Lumon Industries office at the Grand Central Terminal in New York, USA. For over two hours, they stayed in character as their "innies," working at their desks, doing yoga, and engaging in other office activities, just like on the show
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irving b fans our finest moment but at what cost. at WHAT COST. "I'm on the fucking ice" 67 year old man trekking through the wilderness with a cunty outfit and a dream. insisting they eat the montauk monster. being heterophobic towards mark and hellyna. nearly dying of hypothermia so he can see his boyfriend one last time in a terrifying prophetic dream. being the only one to have both the intuition and conviction to confront helena and do something about it. WATERBOARDING THE CEO'S DAUGHTER. and as soon as helly's back he's pulling her close to him and apologising and holding her because he loves her and he doesn't want to hurt her and he's sorry. staring down milchick totally fearless as he's sent to his death. owning the first frame last frame of the best episode of the season so far. and now what. now he's gone. the biggest thread of mystery left without anyone to chase it. outie irv being fired for the second time this week with no idea why. he gave everything for his team and for the truth and he fucking DIED for it!!!!! his old man yaoi swag too powerful they fucking KILLED HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SEVERANCE — 2.04 "Woe's Hollow"

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screaming.
obsessed with the Helena and Irving parallel and what it says about the aspects of our identity we think are fundamental (but aren't)...
Like Outie Irving assumes his Innie is just as radically anti-Lumon as he is. He assumes his hatred of Lumon is something ingrained in his personality! That's why he stays up at night drinking coffee and making paintings, because he hopes that when his innie dreams about the testing floor, he'll say "okay bet" and start exploring. That's what Outie Irving would do, after all. But he miscalculated! His hatred of Lumon isn't inherent--- his desire for meaning and art and spirituality is inherent. That's what his hatred for Lumon is built on. But in a world where there's no meaning outside of Lumon propaganda, of COURSE his innie would become ridiculously devoted to the company.
And Helena!! She is the corporation, that's her whole identity. She presumably assumed that Helly would be just as pro-Lumon as she is. But she miscalculated too! Her devotion to the company isn't inherent, her headstrong and entitled nature is what's inherent! And in a world where she's denied any agency whatsoever, that manifests as rebellion.
It's the same dynamic flipped on its head. They both sent their innies in there with opposite intentions--- one to take down the company, one feed the company's expansion--- only to realize that rebellion and devotion aren't inherent characteristics. Their innies have become the exact opposite of their outie selves, while still being exactly the same!! Because even though your personality is inherent, the values you hold are determined circumstantially. OUGH IT'S SO GOOD.