sideblog; I interact from @hecatesbroom | alys | she/her | 20s | figured I'd make a MASH blog before I drive my mutuals crazy through mashposting, so hi!
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I think I've figured it out. During the Trapper and Henry years, no one was pretending to be nice (except for Frank, that one time "it's nice to be nice to the nice"). No one is actually claiming to be all that good of a person. They may be better surgeons or better than that guy, but they're not *nice*. But BJ thinks he's nice. He thinks he's a good guy. A good husband, a good doctor, a good person. And people (the characters) buy into it because they want to; they want the nice guy unsullied by this absurd war. And BJ doesn't handle it well whenever he might have to admit he's not nice and maybe never was. Because what good is nice in a war zone?
my mother is like not super huge on gay people by any means but she is so close to being a hunnihawk shipper. she said they're always touching because bj is hawkeye's "spouse" and hawkeye looks so sad when margaret and bj dance on bj's anniversary because he wanted to be the one to dance with bj . and like yeah obviously but how do YOU know that
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I love it when my notes randomly explode and it turns out people have discovered this gif again. It’s like yes!! Hawkeye is Still being insane about BJ!! Thanks for the reminder people on tumblr!
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See I’m not above this because I was an adorable cherubic naïeve teenager when I first joined the mash fandom but now as a grizzled old man of 24 who’s spent a few years doing blue collar work at an all-male company, it’s clear that a lot of the time the stuff that people will point at Hawkeye doing and say “there’s no heterosexual explanation for this” is pretty standard straight guy behaviour in stupidfuck homosocial environments like construction sites and the army (and, I’m guessing, the average mash writers room)
The thing that makes Hawkeye read as queer isn’t so much his jokes about getting pregnant etc but rather in his open disdain for a lot of displays of masculinity (and lack of concern about having typically feminine hobbies) and his disinterest in conforming to heterosexual ideals of relationships - the way he (usually) seemingly has no desire for a relationship, and doesn’t really try to influence the women he sleeps with’s view of him to seem more masculine or in control the way that, like, Margaret’s partners do. Like, people at my work will say “we are going into this room together to kiss and fuck”(direct quote) but if I say “I don’t care about any sports, I’ve read at least one book in my adult life, and I don’t plan on getting married”, THAT’S what gets clocked as maybe gay. If you want to make a joke about being gay, you have to display signifiers of heterosexuality, and Hawkeye kind of doesn’t.
"Literally begs men to impregnate him. He will not get married until someone gets him pregnant. Also he deserves a second chance."
"OK so aside from the fact that he canonically asks for it sooooo many times. HE. IS. SO. BREEDABLE. HE WOULD LOOK SO GOOD PREGNANT. OK. He needs it, I need it, we need it. ALSO, he got so close last year and I think he deserves a win."
"The show uses children and family as a symbol of stability, both directly and as an explicit absence (the orphans they take care of, Peg and Erin back home, etc). That stability is something that Hawkeye desperately needs and wants. Plus, he constantly talks about being pregnant in a way that implies he's actually thought through it more than most cis guys would."
"He NEEDS it okay! Man canonically wants to be pregnant! I swear he makes at Least one "joke" about it a season, if not more! He wants it so bad I truly think being pregnant could fix him! He made it so close last year and frankly it's a Travesty he didn't win in my opinion, so I'm hoping we can get the rest of tumblr to fully agree this time around!"
"He is a trailblazer in the field of men desperately wanting to be pregnant. He's begging for it. No man has wanted to be pregnant as much as Hawkeye has, and no man has begged for it openly on TV in the 70's as Hawkeye did. No one deserves to be pregnant more than him. Though there may be new contenders, we must honour our roots. The OG. Some of these contenders will have never made a comment about their bunkmate and best friend getting him pregnant, but Hawkeye has. More than once."
"He's the one asking for it, not me (constantly. he is constantly asking for it)."
"There are numerous moments throughout where he references being pregnant/impregnated, including: “you realize if my father sees this, you'll have to marry me,” “frankly, I think I'm pregnant,” “I could have had a third of a baby by now,” “sit down, your father and I will tell you what we did to have you,” and many more. He's begged a general to impregnate him. (“I know that you're a general and I'm just a captain, but I want to have your baby. I mean it, I want your baby! I'll kiss all your stars!”) One of the first things that he says in response to encountering a new character on the show, when asked if married, is “someone's gonna have to get me pregnant first.”
Children, especially to the characters in MASH, are the representation of life and innocence. Hawkeye, as a character, is defined by his love for life. He is a doctor with a vested interest in humanity, thrust into a war against his will, who does everything he can to preserve that life. Pregnancy is not only a joke to Hawkeye, or something said in passing as a quip or subversive statement, but a concept he treats with respect and dignity, and in the midst of such great injustice and cruelty to human life, carrying life into the world would help him fight just that little more against the war. In the words of BJ Hunnicutt, “All we see around here is death and destruction. Now, in the middle of an inferno that even Dante wouldn't buy tickets to, there's a little glimmer of life, thanks to you. That's not wonderful; that's a miracle.”"
"Just look at him."
"dude is BEGGING for it."
"It's what he would want."
"pregnancy is the opposite of war to him. It’s his escape that eliminates his usual coping mechanism of alcohol, his fantasy being so detached from his trauma that he won’t need it anymore. Instead of narrowly saving lives or failing to save lives, he’s creating it."
Hawkeye propaganda from last season
[Gilgamesh]
(Concept Art: Me)
""how a beast and a god together learned to be human". Wrong! Should have been mpreg to make them learn how to be human."
"Enkidu and Gilgamesh, the original yaoi. Hear me out.
Gilgamesh is a great and terrible warrior king. As punishment for raping brides on their wedding night, the gods create Enkidu, to be his equal in battle and punish him for his cruelty. How poetic then, for Enkidu to leave him with child as part of his punishment. Gilgamesh has to endure the pain of childbirth over and over until it is equal to the suffering he inflicted upon the brides.
Then Gilgamesh becomes friends with Enkidu and they travel together. Even gravid, he is still fierce. Together they vanquish Humbaba, the guardian of the Cedar forest.
His growing belly reflects his growing devotion to Enkidu. He daydreams about how the two of them will teach their children to be fierce warriors with no equal.
So when the goddess Ishtar propositions him, of course he turns her down. In her anger, she asks her father to send the Bull of Heaven after him.
Gilgamesh and Enkidu manage to vanquish the bull without supernatural assistance. However in doing so, they incur the wrath of all the gods. The gods strike down Enkidu with illness. Gilgamesh is by his side as he does.
The extra twist of the knife is that Gilgamesh will never get to raise his children with Enkidu. He goes into labour alone.
And he endures suffering equal to that he'd caused."
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