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hello does anyone have a google drive link they can share to viceland NTBTS?
i successfully got my friends interested after showing them the first ep but i know they wont keep watching it unless it's very accessible 😭
i'm so sick about how jay goes from trying very hard to be a macho straight man in the webseries to what i can only describe as the halfway point to an old gay man doing crossword puzzles in fluffy pink slippers in viceland. young jay tries so hard to fit into the male role in heterosexual relationships but, as he becomes comfortable as matt's lifelong monogamous best friend, he's content to just be whatever he happens to be with him. and what he happens to be is a diva and a housewife.
In case we need a striptease, we're just rehearsing it!
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the one thing about matt is that he's a networker and he is SKILLED at it. like that word has such a dirty association in my mind as a young person where it seems like you can get nowhere without knowing a guy but i truly look up to matt in the fact that he really cares about talking to other people, attentively listening to what other people have to say. i do think in part it comes naturally to him to thrive off of that conversation bouncing energy and that ability to know so many people that you're then able to connect a friend of a friend or go oh my pal who worked on this a couple years ago sounds like he'd be a really great fit for this actually do you know him? etc etc he's just very skilled at throwing himself into opportunity, he's always the conversationalist and of course he likes talking about film and his own creative endeavors and the industry like this is HIS thing and idk where i was quite going with this but basically like it's just very cool to see that his networking abilities come from a place of passion and love of what he does
came across this comment and it made me think of this post cuz i think this is the key, he doesn’t even think of it as networking. he approaches it from a completely genuine place of wanting to connect with people so that way it fuels him rather than drains him
the BEST advice i got in school was stop “networking” and literally just make friends. treat people like people, and not as someone who can do something for you! in the end you always want to help friends and they want to help you. i think matt is really good at this way of life
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so uh, i couldn't stop thinking about the end of ntbtstm as well as james murphy and his work, and how i feel 'new york i love you, but you're bringing me down' correlates so perfectly with matt and jay and their seperate ideals. and a few nights ago and i created this
Joy Sullivan, “If I Had a Hundred Lives to Live”, Instructions for Traveling West
“we were walking down queen street. it was raining, it was pouring rain, everyone had umbrellas except you and i, and i was so like caught up in the adolescent joy of being on queen street that i was like why do people even have umbrellas? don’t they realize this is just beautiful...” - matt johnson cineplex interview x
“the rain was fat and sticky and almost sweet. It was the kind of rain that feels more warm than wet. The kind that requires no umbrella whatsoever. Bird remembered feeling this way once before, but from a childhood long ago. Or was it a dream? Could life even be this wonderful? Bird was only certain of one thing: he wanted it to rain forever.” - matt and bird break loose episode 2 x
somedays you just gotta accept that they are insane about each other and shake your head and move on. today is not one of those days

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As Katie and I explore deeper into Matt Johnson's filmography and all, it's been really interesting to see the surprisingly good portraits of like... the uglier sides of the possible psychology of being attracted to the same sex. There's this everpresent 'I'm attracted to you, my straight best friend, and I'll neuter myself for you but I want to be in our intense incredibly close male friendship forever in return.' I do kind of think Matt himself is like, genuinely bisexual, he just doesn't particularly care to be since he doesn't want to be /gay/ or lose this incredibly homosocial male environment he's cultivated for himself with his friends.
But like other things, film is an opportunity for him to freely explore things about himself taken to excess or in hypothetical. What if I was only attracted to the same sex? What if I couldn't get an acceptable level of heterosexual cred when everyone started building theirs, and my straight best friend started rejecting me because of how strange and obsessive I was being? What if I fed that classic dysphoric gay impulse that wonders if I could have my straight best friend if only I mimicked what he desired? What if, in a different scenario, I managed to get us suspended forever as the most important relationship in each others' lives, for the small price of desexing myself and him still always trying to leave me? Do I resent and mock when he shows his own desire? What if my best friend was complacent enough to consider all my overtures jokes without me needing to be with a woman to give me deniability?
He's got this thing going on where like many men, he's blatantly homosocial and kinda misogynistic and these things wrap in on themselves plenty of times, sure. And honestly, it's /possible/ he's not attracted to the same sex and instead he's got this deep deep tendency towards caring about his male besties to such a degree that the closest possible comparison is literally repressing love for them — and that's possible but I do tend to consider the occam's razor that plenty of people are bisexual, and plenty of bisexuals kind of decide to just ignore it because they like the access to the heterosexual world, they don't want to lose the things they have there — especially their place of standing with their straight besties, and they CAN be attracted to the opposite sex, so if they can have the occasional outlet for their intensity regarding the same sex, then why even bother if they don't care about engaging with being Gay?
The tragedy of being bi, I think, is that you can sublimate your issues all you want because you don't have to face them. It's literally optional. Being homosexual, like, you do have to face it eventually, even ten steps into delusion and trying to imagine a world where you can slot into heterosexuality somehow, you know something has to be fundamentally different to allow it. Whereas it's not true if you're bi.
Plenty of people make a whole host of different decisions as a result, but a lot do the Matt Johnson thing where they reject the conundrum in favor of the status quo, especially men who benefit from a world that encourages them to value their relationships with other men most of all. It creates an environment where the capitulator can have his cake and eat it too, as long as he gives up sex. But nevertheless, unless one is very very good at denial, you end up wondering. Maybe kind of resentful.
And it's that complicated homosexual push and pull between jealousy, resentment, dysphoria, etc, that are kind of well painted and explored in his work. What if I'm attracted to the same sex but I want the sliver of what I can get from my specific straight best friends more than some promise at random gay depth. What if I could just wish myself into their dating pool. What if I could jokingly be the smoking dragon keeping all suitors away, and they just accept it. What if one of them finally catches on and drops me?
Anyway, he gets to explore all that because of his engagement with the heterosexual world irl. His friends think he's all crazy and intense and a wild ride and all the gay jokes are par for the course because he's just like that, and we all go home to our heterosexually modeled lives at the end of the day, where the man spends his day emotionally invested in his fellow man, but returns home and fucks his wife. So no matter how close we joke and get it's fine. Even he doesn't know why he keeps putting gay songs on it all, he swears.
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finally got my roommate to watch NTBTS w me and after a few episodes they are laughing and getting into it.......... start talking about how endearing they find matt and jay...... that they weren't sure about matt at first but now they feel tender feelings for him.... like he is their friend.. "these are our friends now" they tell me......... absolute best case scenario can't believe this is my life
i’m gonna kill myself
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Omg the new album... Jay McCarrol just come to my house and kill me it would be easier
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Guys STOP circulating this in light of what happened! What if he sees it and kills me for real
#jay if you are reading this it was a JOKE #i still love the album though
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Me getting ready to join the tumblr serial killer fandom now after thinking they're awful and creepy forever
#jay mccarrol #to be clear i still don't support people idolizing like. ted bundy or whatever
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This has been a fucking WILD day in Toronto. For anyone who doesn't know, one of Jay McCarrol's band members was shot and McCarrol himself is the main suspect (and no one knows where he is), an unidentified man climbed to the top of the CN tower and then jumped off (not a suicide attempt, he actually had a parachute!), and a man was electrocuted on the same street where the police were chasing McCarrol down (they didn't catch him), all today.
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Damn, the only crazier thing that could happen in Toronto is if the Leafs were actually a good team.
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Watching the "Jay McCarrol has been dropping us hints that he's secretly gay via his lyrics" crowd change their tune to "Jay McCarrol has been dropping us hints that he's going to kill someone via his lyrics" is absolutely sending me right now. This is truly the funniest timeline.
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#i'm just in total shock right now #how could the man who saved my life have ended another's?
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Okay guys I know we're all going kind of crazy right now responding to this and I'm feeling a lot of emotions about it myself but I do think maybe we could tone it down with all the jokes and memes? I know he probably won't see them anyways but I just feel like we should respect Jay and his privacy and not turn this into a total circus, it's gotta be really awful for him as it is. Speaking for myself I know Jay got me through some really tough times and now it's our turn to support him and not turn his pain into a joke.
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HIS privacy? Not the privacy and pain of the family of the guy he fucking KILLED in cold blood? God... Jay McCarrol fans have always been annoying but this is actually fucking ghoulish. He's not a baby bird that needs your protection, he is a murderer who deserves to go to prison.
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See, this is exactly the kind of persecution he's already facing. We don't know any of the details of what happened. What he deserves is the right to a fair trial, and what's "ghoulish" is people totally dehumanizing him and thinking they know everything about a situation we barely have any info about.
#i sincerely think in ten years we're all going to look back on this and regret our actions
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Your Disney princess just killed someone
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If you were to tell 14-year-old me who made these gifs that a decade later Jay McCarrol would shoot someone and the way I would find out is by someone dredging up this very post. Well. Jay if you're out there do me a favour and fucking kill me next.
#i haven't really listened to his music or cared about him in years but #what the fuck
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This is literally going to ruin the tour
#jay mccarrol
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We should have seen this coming he was literally trying to warn us
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If anyone in the GTA is disappointed about not being able to see Jay McCarrol now that he's on the lam or whatever, DM me! I have a cover band, we are basically just as good as him and we don't overcharge for shows like he does.
#plus we're not murderers lol
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Hey everyone,
So, I think I'm going to be stepping back and taking a break from this account for a bit. I really don't know what to do or how to feel right now. I know a lot of you are probably in the same boat, and I just want to say how much I love this fandom and how much joy it's brought me being able to connect with people on here over the years and see how much creativity and passion everyone has in this space. Even though I'm definitely feeling a lot of negative things right now (confusion, betrayal, anger) the one thing I'm trying to bear in mind is that while Jay McCarrol is someone who I don't know, have never known, will never know, there are people on here who I do know because of our shared love of music and it's those people and that love that really matters.
I'm going to take some time to clear my head while we see what happens with this whole situation, but I do want to come back to this account eventually and maybe do something different with it. If anyone has recommendations or requests for other artists that they'd want to see photos/gifs/updates of, let me know!
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This is so well said! Love you and can't wait for your blog to come back in whatever form that takes 💛
#btw as far as recs go you should check out fionn!
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Who put this on Jay McCarrol's Wikipedia page I just wanna talk
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Would it be fucked up if I posted the next chapter of my vampire!Jay fic? I've been working really hard on it but it feels a little weird posting something where he's grappling with bloodlust now and I'm not sure anyone would want to read it at this point anyways.
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There's literally never been a better time to post it tbh
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This is exactly why everyone hates RPF writers
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