I said it ends here

Sakura is presented as someone who just won't give up until Sasuke agrees to be with her. Him being deadbeat is perfectly understandable. And I don't believe Salad was conceived the usual way because the whole Gaiden (Salad's origin story) revolved around test tube babies and because Kishi implied twice that Sasuke never kissed her.

As for Hinata, Naruto has a lot of responsibilities placed on him as the hero and the Hokage candidate, and he's guilt tripped about Hinata plenty of times. While Hinata didn't do most of the guilt tripping, she's too self-centered to not somehow being able to get that Naruto is just not that into her. So I don't feel sorry for her either.

If you agree with her, then go reblog her posts, no need to come to me. It's kinda similar with ss and nh, why can't they just reblog their own ship posts but have to come to me to convince me I'm wrong lol.

I don't wanna go back to read the message because I found the attitude of the sender off-putting, but from what I remember the post (they mentioned things that ns essayists get wrong, and I have no idea who they are talking about, not necessarily me, but regardless) was the usual "in japanese literature going on a quest is masculine, people finding you attractive doesn't make you feminine, masculine characters are admired for their looks too, japanese literature etc. etc." and like I'm pretty sure I have addressed those things couple times already.

It's not Sasuke being attractive, I am very aware attractiveness is an admired trait in general, even in hetero stories, even from "top" in BL stories. That's not what was being discussed. It is the way Sasuke's attractiveness is portrayed outside of the squeeling fangirls. Sasuke is portrayed as desirable, something to possess, sometimes even prey. It comes off not only as homoerotic but it's much more commonly how women are portrayed in media. But not just women, a good example is the movie Gohatto (Kishi's fave Takeshi Kitano played captain Hijikata in that movie btw) where a beautiful young man Kano Sozaburo's arrival distrupts the Shinsengumi, and the other men desire him, some want to dominate and own him. He's also a skilled fighter/swordsman and a bit sinister. But he's portrayed as an object of desire.

Whether you like or hate Sasuke, if you genuinely think like this you have low IQ and worst values.

https://www.tumblr.com/sasuke-shway/781386103161782272/i-totally-get-shipping-naruto-and-sasuke-i-see?source=share

sometimes these types of sasuke fans make me feel guilty for shipping narusasu

I see you. But. The thing is, they acknowledge Naruto was also abused by the system, yet became part of it.

I think I talked about this before (I could remember wrong though) but yes, it's another of those "let's drop this subject so nothing stands in the way of Boruto" instances. I don't like it either.

itachi: I always lied to you and poked your head in order to push you away. let me be honest this one time *does not poke sasuke's head but instead brings their foreheads together to close the distance and says he loves sasuke*

The other day I felt like watching video essays and you could see from this one girl's channel that she liked mostly m/m ships. BUT she also had a long video explaining why ichiruki is a good ship and what makes it special and why many women like it. And her two most recent videos were finally about some f/f ship she found that she really liked.