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Ascendant Persona charts are surprisingly easy to read. It is a completely developed, complex birth chart of how others view you. Your Ascendant Persona chart can help you dig deeper into how others perceive you regarding different areas, aspects of yourself & life.

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Usual disclaimer: I am no professional, take what resonates.

To find out your chiron placement, go on astro.com (make an account if you don't have one) and click on Horoscopes. After that, under "Drawings & Calculations" you will find the extended chart selection. There, choose Chiron from the additional objects.

Chiron represents out deepest wounds that will never be completely healed. It also represents pain, but not necessarily unfortune. Where Chiron is, you will become wise in that area and grow into the "wounded healer" archetype. Venus represents love, romance, self-esteem and relationships. Combined, these aspects are a little hard to handle (like all Chiron aspects tbh), but they are plenty interesting.

Venus-Chiron aspects:

Venus-chiron brings pain and wounds to relationships, romance and self-esteem.

These people can have trauma coming from their relationships with others (Unpleasant experiences keep happening)

They might think a lot about what others think of them

And they might tweak their personality because of that

I believe people with venus-chiron can feel inadequate for their friends/partners/social circle

They are more likely to be criticized by others regarding their social status

Issues with self-esteem are huge here- even softer aspects, but the free therapy firstly goes to harsh aspects lmao

They might romanticize pain as a coping mechanism

They can also escape or distract themselves with pretty or positive things (not always bad, only if they neglect their trauma)

Venus-Chiron can also make someone like the idea of bettering a partner/friend. This can go both ways as in the worst case they might attract people with a ton of trauma and who depend on them to be fixed. In best case, these people like helping their partners/friends grt over their sorrows and are very accepting

Talking about helping people, venus-chiron's type in romance might be someone with a wise attitude, who is aware of the painful aspects of life, someone Chiron-like. They might also be into wisdom.

Venus also rules over artistic skills, so I think these people can create stuff related to wounds and hurt in other words, emo poetry-ok no jk, but there is potential. I have seen authors with venus-chiron who have written beautiful pieces capturing emotional distress and heart ache

They are most likely respectful to others' issues and don't like overstepping boundaries

People are more likely to come to them to vent about others and romance (just an observations of the few folks I have encountered with venus-chiron)

They can sometimes be too tolerant of others

And they can be quite sensitive to others' opinions, what others say

People with these aspects can grow to analyze relationships very well and give great advice on this matter.

Random note but, they may experience creativity blocks often?

Venus-Chiron can make someone hesitant in relationships, perhaps slow to open up or keeping an emotional distance

The best partner/friend/connection people with these aspects can have is someone who respects their boundaries as well and is open in diving into issues together, someone who will be there for them

They are more likely to benefit from talking things out, either with someone close to them, or a therapist, but also creating art!

Venus conjunct Chiron smashes the planets' themes together. They bring love and wounds together. I think these people make excellent healers, and are very accepting and kind. People might take advantage of them because of this, so they should be careful to not tolerate toxic behaviors without realizing.

Venus trine Chiron is an easy aspect. Things flow easily, so these people are very accepting as well. They like being there for others. Artistic skills, but make it slightly edgy lmao- good listeners. But the trine has dark sides too, because there is potential that talent can be brushed off and left undeveloped. They can ignore their problems and escape into their fantasy land. They could forget to put effort into keeping their relationships fair, either ending up taking advantage or being taken for granted. Conscious work is required, but it is easily harnessed.

Venus sextile Chiron is another positive aspect. These people are great at understanding and offering support. Big potential for deep artistic skills as well. I am sensing they're a little on the introverted side.

Venus square Chiron is our first harsh aspect. The square creates inner tension and is hard to deal with, but also has its benefits. These people may be constantly wronged or treated below their worth. They can be taken advantage of because they understand emotional pain easily. Relationships can make them feel trapped and like their healing is being sabotaged or slowed. There is also a lot of self-critique. This is why they should surround themselves with equally devoted and understanding people who do not overstep their boundaries.

Venus opposite chiron is another difficult aspect. The opposition manifests more outwardly. There is a strong imbalance between relationships and the self, their own healing and well-being. They could have their boundaries overstepped constantly. There also exists a strong sense of indecisevess, and they may overthink a lot in relationships because of past events regarding this topic. They can also feel held down by others, just like venus square chiron. The key here is finding balance. They need to help themselves, but also sustain the relationships worth sustaining.

As an end note, venus-chiron are like the wallflower archetype. They have been hurt in the past, have lots of scars from relationships, but it is these very scars that bring them wisdom :)

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Venus is my best friend so here we go…

Sun - Venus Aspects (I’ve done these ones before, but I want to include it again in this Venus aspect master post)

In a person’s chart, the Sun and Venus are never further than 48 degrees apart; the only possible aspects it can have are a conjunction, semi-sextile, or a semi-square.

Sun conjunct Venus This creates a strong connection to Venus’ energy and carries over Venusian traits. These people are in tune with the beauty of life. They are charming and easy-going. They are very romantic, but they too often get tied up into the thought that a prince or princess will come for them rather than they find a lover themselves. With that being said though, they do possess a magnetic attraction and a lot of people will fall for their charms. This aspect softens the masculinity parts of you into feminine and gentle pursuit.  

Sun semi-sextile Venus When the Sun and Venus are 30 degrees apart (2 degree orb) it creates a semi-sextile. A weaker aspect, but still have some influence on the individual. These people are cheerful, good humoured, and optimistic. Semi-sextile is a 12th harmonic aspect, so with that vibe you can imagine that the influence this aspect creates will almost go unnoticed. 

Sun semi-square Venus When the Sun and Venus are 45 degrees apart (4 degree orb, but the closer, the stronger) it creates the semi-square. This is another weaker aspect, but it does create a strong pursuit for talent in music and dance. These people also seem to be strongly inclined to female offspring. These people are sensitive and somewhat shy (still keeping in mind that this is a minor aspect so major aspects elsewhere in the chart can say something else). Since this is technically a discordant aspect, the shyness is rooted from insecurity. Semi-squares being an 8th harmonic will give off some Scorpio/8th House vibes to this person’s romantic character. 

Mercury - Venus Aspects When I think of Mercury-Venus aspects, I picture a poet writing, dancing his pencil across the paper. Again, Mercury and Venus can only be so far apart, that is, never more than 76 degrees apart. So with that being said, the possible aspects that can be made are the conjunction, semi-sextile, semi-square, sextile, quintile, decile, and semi-decile. I will exclude quintiles, deciles, and semi-deciles, but you can sort of get an idea on how to interpret a Mercury-Venus decile/semi-decile by acknowledging a decile/semidecile’s Capricorn/Saturn/10th House energy. And for hints on how to interpret a quintile/biquintile, I talk about this aspect here. 

Mercury conjunct Venus The mind is very refined and artistic. Soft and charming. Ideas and voice can be almost hypnotizing. Very friendly when unafflicted. Speaks beauty so effortlessly. According to C.E.O. Carter, people with this aspect are typically fond of youth and may even act juvenile… This could create a wide range of motives to why someone might act this way; to attract young people or to just stay “hip.” This is very true when Saturn isn’t very pronounced in the chart. You can imagine people with this aspect being quite proficient in writing, music, or speaking, especially when this aspect is in the 3rd or 5th house. 

Mercury sextile Venus Great placement for musicians; it combines the mind with artistic abilities. Very artistic. Friendly, charming, and social, may come off a little fake though (unless of course, the rest of the chart says otherwise). Like all harmonious Venus-Mercury aspects, you have a way with words; a great conversationalist. 

Mercury semi-sextile Venus Very minor aspect so again, it may go unnoticed, but because it is harmonious, it still has its intellect and charm to it. Like the sextile, the individual can be a good speaker. I would consider this another good placement for musicians just because semi-sextiles are 12th harmonics so therefore there could be some Neptune vibes drawing in there. Artistic ability is definitely there, but will need to seek it out even harder than the sextile. 

Mercury semi-square Venus The 8th harmonic sprouting from a semi-square could potentially make the individual possessive, perceptive, seductive, and manipulative. An alluring charm to the way they communicate to others. Can sometimes be negative for relationships if the controlling aspects to this placement are indeed prominent. 

Moon - Venus Aspects Moon conjunct Venus If prominent in the native chart, they have a calm and gentle presence. There is a strong appreciation for love, beauty, and art. Generally all around affectionate, charming, and trusting. This sensitivity might make the person prone to people using them because they are sort of a “Yes-man” type person. Strong motherly character to them. A very good placement for people who wish to have children as it symbolizes harmonious family life. 

Moon sextile or trine Venus Quite similar to the conjunction in the sense that they are very artistic. Blessed with charm and attractiveness. Financially a good placement as well, money is hardly an issue unless badly afflicted somewhere else in the chart. The trine comes more naturally than the sextile.

Moon square Venus Difficult and afflicted position for Venus. The individual feels a sense of melancholy around the idea of love and beauty, there may be some insecurities around that as well. Unless Venus shares a stronger, more positive aspect some where else in the person’s chart, this is not a very good aspect for money. There are strong insecurities to bring the effeminate side of the person out, they hide it through aggressiveness and toughness. To overcome this hard aspect, the person needs to accept genuine love where it is given, do not shut it out. Financially, the individual should look to earthy aspects in their chart to handle money better and for stability. Work on being more loving unconditionally.

Moon opposite Venus This aspect is not as difficult to handle as the square, but there is work involved. There are fears of being unloved and difficulties with handling finances. Again, accept genuine love where it is given and give love where it is deserved. I feel this aspect can also be overcome by a strong relationship between them and their lover or them and the mother. Disconnection of the mother through this aspect tends to have very negative affects on the individual. 

Venus - Mars Aspects

Venus conjunct Mars While conjunctions are commonly seen as harmonious, they are actually in fact neutral and in this case, the powerful combination of Venus and Mars can actually be quite difficult. Depending on where Venus and Mars are positioned will depict just how this aspect will act (the Venus side of this aspect may smother Mars if Venus is in an empowering sign and vice versa). An overpowering Venus will weaken Mars’ abilities therefore the individual could lack qualities Mars typically provides (such as, drive towards passions…). The overpowering Venus will favour fairness, love, and harmony, but will also be lazy, superficial, etc. On the other spectrum, we have an overpowering Mars which could make the individual lack Venus’ gentle and loving traits. Lust and power could be a big thing for Mars placed here. Can make the individual moody and reckless, but brave. Both extremes can be balanced by focusing on the one that is being weakened. 

Venus sextile or trine Mars Harmony between the spirit and animal self. Makes a strong, enthusiastic, courageous character. Very good placement for health, makes for a generally robust and healthy body. Great love of life and they tend to just effortlessly tread through life like a warrior. Affectionate and kind. Makes the individual magnetically attractive to the opposite sex. Mars will put any sort of Venus related talents to work and may prefer Venus related activities, but can also do well in athletic fields as well. 

Venus square Mars Quite a difficult aspect that needs taming and it can manifest in different ways. From what some astrologers have observed, this aspect can create conflict with family life; this could range anywhere from quarrels or unfortunate family events. It does not doom romantic relationships, but it does stir up drama. Romantic life has quite a bit of flare; passion, heartbreak, tears, kiss-and-makeup sort of situations… It’s very extra. Creates a jealous and possessive character and should try to work on eliminating this trait. In masculine individuals, it can make them harsh, unloving, or unruly; this must be tamed in order to find a healthy, happy, permanent mate. Careful who you marry or dedicate your life to; avoid marrying young or marry wisely. Sex drive is either too much or very little with this aspect. Usually impatient and many unfulfilled desires. Look to what houses are involved with this aspect because what this aspect comes down to is conflict between passion and harmony to whichever houses are involved. Harmonious aspects to Saturn can calm this position down. Aside from the negativity this aspect gives off, it can create an extremely passionate and driven character.

Venus opposite Mars Oppositions represent outer forces creating conflict. This aspect has many of the same difficulties and tendencies as the square, but it is much easier to escape its framework with conscious movements away from its negative energy. People who are more feminine ruled will develop overly sensitive traits and attract men who are aggressive and licentious. People who are masculine ruled likely have aggressive and touchy traits and attract overly sensitive and submissive women into their lives. Either way, both characters come on too strong. This aspect also represents conflict with the opposite sex; that can be manifested in many ways like oppression, difficult parents, etc. Just like the square, it can create a very passionate and driven character.

Venus - Jupiter Aspects

Venus conjunct Jupiter Considered the “lucky” aspect as Venus and Jupiter endlessly compliment each other, but there can be too much cheese and wine if you know what I mean (indulgence… Laziness… Self-centredness… Impulsive…). But yes, this is considered one of the best aspects a natal chart can have as it represents a very artistically developed character with great appreciation for beauty and absolute gracefulness. Popularity and prosperity also come from this aspect. Jupiter expands all that Venus has to offer, Jupiter gives Venus a huge heart to just love all of life’s virtues. 

Venus sextile or trine Jupiter Many of the same benefits as the conjunctions, less of the negative traits as they are more controlled with these aspects. The sextile needs to actually be put to work to achieve the benefits whereas the trine makes them come naturally to the individual. There is also a strong interest in religion and attunement to the Higher Self. 

Venus square Jupiter What’s great about Jupiter aspects is that the negative aspects often get same benefits as the positive aspects (trine, conjunction, sextile, etc.); it is the case for Venus squaring Jupiter, but on top of that, there are some negatives that need to be controlled and overcome. Typically problems routed from this aspect are over-indulgence, bad judgement, vanity, laziness, and doing things without purpose; the individual usually overdoes it or doesn’t do enough. May be foolish with money; if this is controlled, the individual can be quite prosperous though. Individuals with this placement should be wary of the consumption of alcohol and fatty, rich foods as the liver is sensitive with this aspect.

Venus opposite Jupiter Again, like I mentioned in the square, negative Jupiter aspects can still possess the same benefits as the trine or sextile. It does also possess the same troubles as the square, but often times the problems come from outer forces and aren’t caused by the individual themselves. Often times the issues, whether they be financial, or romantic, or etc. issues, can come from foreigners, travelling, or just justice. It’s best to also see what houses are involved with this aspect to get a better idea where the excess and trouble comes from. 

Venus - Saturn Aspects

Venus conjunct Saturn In this case, the intense energy coming from the conjunction can be a bit discordant; here we have love being smothered by Saturn’s restriction. So yes, there is a lack of lovingness from this aspect, but it is because Saturn is making Venus cautious in love and considerate of their own feelings. Saturn will restrict the use of money as well; an individual with this aspect can be quite stingy, even possibly to the point of being a Ebenezer Scrooge. It is, however, perfectly okay to be careful with finances, but it is the selfishness that could create a problem; it will attract equally selfish people. Insecurity is another issue with this aspect as it restricts Venus’ ability to appreciate one’s own beauty. An individual with this aspect may not even see what is described above as an issue to them; they may think that ultimately, their duty to serve on in this life is more important than beauty, love, etc. If however, what is described sounds troubling to a Venus conjunct Saturn individual, the best way to overcome these issues is sacrifice. There is no love without sacrifice, especially in the case of Venus conjunct Saturn, but the sacrifice itself could very well be a very small price to pay.

Venus sextile or trine Saturn Creates a character of absolute loyalty and dependability. Takes love very seriously and will not waste time with careless people; they value commitment. Is patient with love; one of the most important factors in love is to know that love is patient, therefore you must be patient with love. It is quite possible that insecurity is also routed from this aspect, but it really depends on the houses and signs that are involved (A detrimental Venus in aspect to the first house definitely screams insecurity). Like the conjunction, the individual can be quite careful with finances, but not to the point of being stingy. A great amount of spiritual strength and survival skills is developed with this aspect from either past-life hardships or early-life hardships. 

Venus square Saturn This aspect is what many astrologers consider karmic debt. Saturn freezes Venus when the aspect is tight on this one. It reaps disappointment through love. Loneliness is inflicted on themselves. An individual with this placement may cut themselves off from opportunities in love to avoid disappointment (or may feel they don’t deserve love) or may make foolish decisions in love which can cause obvious disappointment. The first case would be especially true if this aspect is connected to the fourth house or even the first house. The second case would be true if this aspect is connected to one of the houses involving relationships (like the seventh house). Venus - Saturn aspects also hint to greed which may be true with the square. Ultimately this aspect if trying to teach the individual to have some balance; knowing what you truly deserve and don’t deserve; to give love to receive love; to share to be shared. Like the conjunction, a person with this aspect may feel like they don’t need love because they devote that energy towards their ambition or duty… They sacrifice comfort… 

Venus opposite Saturn Some of the same negative encounters with this aspect as the square, but the problems arise mostly through outer forces like the people they meet; the outer forces are reflecting past-life behaviours. The houses involved with this aspect can tell a lot about where the problems will arise (seventh house could symbolize a difficult relationship or the tenth/fourth house could symbolize a parent, usually the father, that is a burden, distant, unloving or cold; quite possibly also the need to assimilate for the parent, the need, but often resulting in inability, to impress them. Saturn in the second house opposite to Venus may symbolize financial conflict… Saturn in the eighth house opposite Venus may symbolize conflict with inheritance..). The possible conflict with this aspect is vast and needs to be inspected carefully to really know exactly what it may represent in an individual’s chart, but to put it simply, Saturn is inflicting dread and misfortune on Venus and it is often due to the individual’s choice in environment. The effects of this aspect are easily avoidable by consciousness and choice; you can choose to be happy, you can choose what people or things effect you. 

Venus - Uranus Aspects

Venus conjunct Uranus Eccentricity draws people to this individual; it is creative, dynamic, unique, and ultimately attractive to others. Unless earth or Saturn gives some commitment and stability in the individual’s chart, this placement can make a person hard to tie down and dislikes responsibility. They never really know what they like or admire because it’s always changing! There can definitely be “a sudden change in heart” with this placement for the individual. Funny enough, if they aren’t the one to break things off, they’re often extremely upset by separation. Great independence; the individual’s freedom comes before love, especially true if there is a lack of water or earth in the chart. The trick to tying one down with this aspect is to be a valuable friend before a lover as one of their morals is usually something like “Lovers come and go, but friends remain forever.” Being able to speak on a friend level gives a person with this aspect room to breathe. Artistic talent is strong with this placement as Venus combines her eye for beauty with Uranus’ unique ideas to create an artistic genius. 

Venus trine or sextile Uranus These individuals could easily be described as fascinating. Has the same magnetism and artistic genius as the conjunction. In every thing that Venus entails, Uranus is going to put some surprise twists in there; brings love, prosperity, and events from unexpected places. The sudden events and changes will always be in favour of the individual. The trine aspect brings all of these traits more easily than the sextile. 

Venus square or opposite Uranus An individual with this aspect may need to seek stability in himself before seeking a successful and stable romantic relationship for emotional instability is common with this aspect. Fickle behaviour is common. Magnetism is just as strong as the trine aspect, but it may attract the wrong type of person for this individual. Has unconventional ideas around love and sex, but this aspect won’t cause promiscuousness. Strong will to be independent to the point where the individual may forget just how much he/she relies on certain people. Demands freedom, but also needs to realize that they must give freedom to others to be, well, ultimately free. 

Venus - Neptune Aspects

Venus conjunct Neptune This has got to be the most favourable aspect among artists and musicians as it blesses a chart with immense inspiration, imagination, and romantic traits. Attractive and angelic. May be psychically sensitive. Interest in mystical or metaphysical fields can also be strong; anything of divinity. This interest in the unknown can also result in a negative direction such as escapism, but a more developed individual with this aspect will know that the path to enlightenment includes a raw and sober mind. Romantically compassionate, usually has a great understanding of the laws of love and has a lot of love to give. Nerves are sensitive in love. An individual with this placement may romanticize toxic behaviours, people, ideology, etc. 

Venus trine or sextile Neptune Like the conjunction, this is an extremely favourable aspect for artistic and musicians as it denotes great imagination, inspiration, and talent. An individual with this aspect will have a great eye for beauty and some level of refinement. Great understanding of love and values love on a spiritual level. Compassionate and is the type of person to “always be there for you.” Not super attached to the material world and just like the conjunction, there is interest in the metaphysical fields; may be psychically sensitive, if not, intuition is definitely still strong. Sensitive type. 

Venus square Neptune Neptune is creating self-deception in Venusian realms and whichever houses that are involved is where it will often take place. The most common self-deception created from this aspect is in the area of love; individuals with this aspect often create an image of how a person is when they’re clearly not like that at all; they try to fit their partner into a framework that isn’t them; a square block into a circular hole. This ultimately will bring the individual some disappointment in love when they finally realize they cannot change a person no matter how much they wish upon it. So while commonly it is that the expectations are too high in love, they can also be too low; the individual needs to find a balance in order to be happy. There is also a strong desire to seek true enlightenment and the divine, but is often unable to fully achieve this desire. The square does not affect artist ability in a negative way like some may associate with a negative Venus/Neptune aspect, in fact, it could create a positive influence on the individual’s artistic ability as squares often provide motivation and drive.

Venus opposite Neptune I mentioned in the square description that there is self-deception, but in the case of the opposition, there is deception coming from outer forces, most often people and even more specific, romantic affairs. A person with this aspect is likely to encounter someone like described in the square, but with selfish and controlling motives also. The easiest way to opt out of this experience is to simply just avoid these people; you don’t need to sacrifice your interests to fit someone else’s needs. Be wise with who you allow into your life romantically. This aspect can also manifest in other ways, not just romantic ones, but also be aware of possible deception and schemes through other Venusian realms such as money and beauty. Again, just like the square, artistic ability is not negatively affected by this aspect.

Venus - Pluto Aspects

Venus conjunct Pluto There is a great deal of lust, magnetism, and sensuality with this aspect. This aspect has the potential of making a person a master at seduction. What’s also great about this aspect is that Pluto, a planet that sees right through all there is in its rawest form, will break some of Venus’ superficialness and social barriers that Venus often entails. Romantic endeavours are far from lacking steaminess thanks to Pluto. Your artistic projects will usually have an intimate connection to you. 

Venus trine or sextile Pluto There isn’t the same amount of magnetism as the conjunction, but the people who do get caught by your allure REALLY get pulled in by you. Romantic feelings are intense and leave great emotional impact. Great value for intimacy. Eye for beauty is intense and raw. Has the same amount of empathy as a personal planet aspected to Neptune, but holds their ground and doesn’t sacrifice who they are. Looks for the good in every person. 

Venus square Pluto An individual with this aspect may have held deep grudges and indulged too much in lust and selfishness to the point where they must redeem themselves and change their behaviour in order to seek peace and happiness in this life. One way an individual can fix this behaviour is by teaching others to love and to give because teaching someone something is actually a very strategic way of teaching yourself as well. 

Having a prominent BML is so damn hard but you need to learn to love it as well as it’s part of who you are.

I have sun conjunct Lilith in the 10th & when I tell you I feel this placement in my bones. You always feel like an outcast everywhere u go, and can tend to attract drama or unwanted attention, good & bad. Your energy can just feel threatening to some, or envied by others I guess and that causes u to be rejected or isolated from the public at times. Loners at heart. It can also cause you to be a control freak. A fear of rejection, abandonment or betrayal is common.

Just for example as how it manifests for me, every time I started working somewhere (10th house) I was always patronized, and treated unfairly or badly for no reason by other women, especially if they were my boss. I also don’t usually enjoy being told what to do, therefore I’m better at self-employed jobs than being under someone’s supervision or jobs that give me freedom to do things as I like, on my time. I can really suffer from doing things I don’t particularly like or don’t find Interest in, more than others it seems. Also Women in general seem to have issues with me & can literally give me looks like I killed their mother even when they don’t even know me like for instance at a party or something . I get stared at by females a lot. Female friends always betray me at some point and try to exclude me or compete with me or just disappear for no reason. Men seem attracted yet threatened by me, and I guess that confuses them. I don’t like being controlled and I admit I can have some issue with being a bit mean to some men sometimes, or just try to ignore them , it’s like a survival instinct or something haha but that’s what that aspect does to you. Even if I like someone I don’t like showing it cause it’s kinda like losing your power. Especially having it in Sagittarius u don’t wanna lose your sense of freedom & independence and u will stand your ground intensely and some men don’t like that. It’s like being seen as a Femme Fatale by them without intending to (especially if you also have Scorpio somewhere in the chart)

You have to develop confidance on your own with prominent Lilith cause others are gonna try to bring u down constantly for just being who you are.

Remember that you are your own boss. Own it.

Hi there!💓

I think it might be almost the same as being a Pluto dominant but more focused on sex & society. Pluto dominants go through issues related to everything but Ive found Lilith dominants to go through issues mostly related to sex and society.

Not being welcomed at places.

Not having that group of girlfriends to have slumber parties with.

People not being comfortable around you.

Men being obsessed with you instead of being in love with you so you dont experience romance the same as other women etc.

Issues that makes you incredibly lonely and makes you feel like such an outcast.

Having a hard time finding a job or issues with people at work because of how you come across/look.

Nobody ever having a normal reaction to you.

Lilith square ascendant is an interesting placement. It’s packed with energy that often seems excessive and uncontrollable. Lilith energy is always tied to the mythology of Adam’s first wife, Lilith. She was an unfit wife because she saw herself as equal to Adam and could not be “tamed” to follow him as her husband. Lilith the figure is filled to the brim with complexity, s*xual energy, and intrigue just like the placement is.

Lilith can be felt powerfully in the angular houses (1st, 4th, 7th, 10th) as these are the houses tied to how you are perceived and received by others (self, childhood/family, spouse/partners, public). Personally I have Lilith in my 10th house squaring my ascendant which is why I wanted to dive into some of my observations with this placement.

Lilith aspecting the ascendant is often observed as an alluring placement. Lilith is impactful, often others will have a strong reaction to you. When you walk into a room you will have people that immediately love or hate you no matter how neutral you attempt to be.

Individuals with Ascendants that are Trine/Sextile to Lilith tend to enjoy and find empowerment from the often sexual attention they receive. While Asc Conjunct/Square/Opposition Lilith individuals tend to feel disgusted or turned off by these strong reactions.

In all honesty, strong Lilith placements are in the individual’s birth chart to encourage them to come into their own without shame or making themselves smaller for others.

Lilith square ascendant is said to be the most alluring and untamable placement because of the strength of the tension of energy of this aspect.

In addition to that, there’s something startling about the energy of strong Lilith placements/aspects, not because of Lilith herself but because of the reactions of others.

People often assume that the version they perceive of you to be all that you are. They also tend to be quite possessive and controlling of you. Either they shame and avoid you because they feel especially overwhelmed by your energy. Or they try to capture you, as if they could be the one to assert total control and dominance over you and to make you up in whatever image they view as “respectably feminine”.

This is obviously a trap, because Lilith’s energy cannot be muted, so when controlling people cannot change your essence they will sometimes react badly. As if they are following dark impulses, something snaps and they simply cannot process you being so uncontrollable.

Personally with my Lilith in 10th house in Leo squaring my ascendant in Scorpio, I find I usually get a certain set of reactions. From feminine energies, I often get femmes that suddenly get very competitive with me. For attention, skill, or otherwise, especially at work. (Check your 11th house to see where competition tends to come up). I usually have an easier time making friends with femmes with Lilith energies who are more aware of and embrace their “alternative” or “dark feminine” sense of expression and social s*xual power/identities.

For masculine energies I often get contempt or infatuation. Contempt in the form of avoidance and belittling. Or infatuation in the form of pushing boundaries with leery behavior. Something about Lilith makes some men really uncouth in a jarring way. It’s like the socially polite part of their brain just shuts down and they devolve in front of you.

Lilith isn’t a bad placement, just to be clear. I don’t believe any placement is bad, I know that every placement has its disadvantages and advantages and your lesson is to use them accordingly. Lilith is just a litmus test. If someone is an envious, possessive, abrasive sort of person, their behavior will be shown to you almost immediately. Especially with very masculine or very “traditionally” feminine energies.

I’m synastry too, Lilith overlays will show you a lot about your partner and their behavior towards you. Lilith shows if people around you are developed or undeveloped the easiest of most placements I believe.

This is definitely a placement to be careful with because you can’t really tell how far into scary behavior other people will go once they’ve made up their minds about you.

Day by day, I’m learning Lilith’s lesson of not letting people control you by gaining means to be independent and have my autonomy supported throughout my relationships always, but I’ve definitely gotten through some scary situations by having to get away from people that want me to submit to them.

Due to the deity associated with Ardra, Rudra, a fierce form of Shiva, Ardra males often embody the "bad boy" persona. Ahir Budhyana, the deity for uttara bhadrapada also known as the Water Serpent or Dragon of the Deep Seas, is the God of Fertility and Kundalini. Possessing a strong inclination towards seclusion, he is one of the 11 Rudras of Shiva and the son of Viswakarma, the Celestial Architect. Ahir Budhyana exhibits a calmer demeanor compared to other forms of Rudra, displaying discipline and restraint, which is further influenced by Saturn's presence in this nakshatra. This nakshatra carries a dissolution aspect, symbolizing death, transformation, and enlightenment through the destruction of forms, which aligns with Shiva's domain. It is said that even Shiva wears a serpent around his neck.

Uttara Bhādrapadā, the 26th nakshatra ruled by Saturn and located in Pisces rasi, symbolizes the deep sleep state and unconscious exploration. Represented by the back part of a funeral cot, it embodies mystery and fertility, with its deity Ahir Bhudhanya associated with maintaining the earth's fertility. Uttarabhadrapada signifies the unfathomable darkness from which creation emerges, posing fundamental questions about existence and the universe. Natives of this nakshatra tend to be disciplined, empathetic, and secretive, often striving for higher awareness and benevolence. It shakti is the power to bring rain and prosperity, reflecting the refined aspects of Saturn's influence through hard work and struggle.

Heath ledger Ardra ☽ x Julia stiles UBP ☉ in 10 things I hate about you

In "10 Things I Hate About You," Heath Ledger's character, Patrick, the school's "bad boy," is approached by two classmates who give him an ultimatum: to date Julia Stiles' character, Kat, so their friend can get closer to her sister Bianca. This is because Bianca is not allowed to date unless Kat is dating someone, as commanded by their father, Walter, who seems to favor Kat due to her introverted, anti-social, and intellectually disciplined nature. Patrick agrees to date Kat in exchange for money but faces constant rejection from her until she eventually starts going out with him while still remaining suspicious. As they continue dating, Patrick realizes they actually have a lot of common both intellectually and emotionally he then begins to feel guilty for accepting the money because he realizes that he has genuine feelings for Kat, and which she starts to returns those feelings.

Ardra, although ruled by Rahu, embodies a combination of Budh and Rahu energies. This nakshatra enhances intellectual prowess, communication skills, and manual dexterity in its natives. With abundant mental and nervous energy, Ardra individuals exhibit qualities such as wit, versatility, and quickness of thought. Similar to a diamond, Ardra's intellectualism is sharp and multifaceted. The Ardra characters aren’t just bad boys but “geniuses”.

In addition, it's worth noting that Uttara Bhadrapada natives often tend to be the favored "daughters," as seen in examples like Cinderella and Kim Kardashian with her biological father, both exemplifying the concept of "daddy's girls."

Reese Witherspoon UBP ☉ x Ryan Philipe Ardra ☽ in cruel intentions

In cruel intentions, Philipe character Sebastian who is looked at as “intelligent manipulator”, places a bet with his step-sister that he can take the daughter of the new headmaster at their school, Reese Annette character virginity, so she can be “ruined” and looked down upon by her peers. Sebastian struggles to seduce Annette because she is already aware of his reputation as a promiscuous bad boy. He still tries to pursue through many devious actions against others but soon genuinely falls in love with Annette, and she slowly returns the feelings.

Stacy Martin UBP ☉ x Tahar Rahim Ardra ☉ in treat me like fire

Upon meeting Abel (Tahar Character), a captivating gambler, Ella's (Stacy character) life undergoes a profound transformation as she delves into the exhilarating yet risky realm of underground Parisian gambling clubs. Initially started by a bet, their bond intensifies into an all-passion relationship, propelling Ella to navigate the adrenaline-charged underground gaming scene.

The Ardra and Uttara bhadrapada relationship doesn’t start out with a solid foundation, it is overtime when the relationship starts to develop into something deep and sincere. As seen in real life couple, Heath Ledger and Gemma Ward.

Heath ledger Ardra ☽ x Gemma Ward UBP ☽

Heath Ledger dated Gemma Ward in 2007; both were grappling with personal struggles, which brought them together.

"I kind of met him at first and said, 'Listen my mum's living with me right now and I'm kind of going through a hard time and I'm not interested in having a serious relationship with somebody right now' and he was like, 'You know, um, let's just be there for each other through these hard times we're both going through,'" says Ward. "And we developed a relationship and we started seeing each other."