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Heya, name is Carmen/Literally which makes it very hard to talk about myself, and my other name is Camellia for less confusion.

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Feel free to send me any messages or asks, including hatemail because I think it's funny and I am good at annoying people.

Fan of media literacy, literary analysis, Project Moon, Signalis, and various other games, posts will largely be pertaining to the first three listed.

analyses found here and https://archiveofourown.org/users/Illiterallys_literacy

Before anyone accuses me of being a "Tourist" or "Larper" to Project Moon just know that I outrank you by seniority as someone who has been following the company (and analysing the game(s)) for around 8 years.

Rien apologists will be shot on sight. Stubborn and indignant people will be shot on sight (most) Project Moon Youtubers will be most likely shot on sight. Bigots will be shot on sight. (I WILL be vocal about Transmisogyny. I WILL be vocal about Transadrophobia. I WILL be vocal about Ableism)

No hard feelings if you block me or visa versa, its what I get for being inflammatory all the goddamn time. If you just want analysis without any rant or vent posts, block the tag #Cries of a literature

I run a (largely Project Moon focused) analysis and discussion server feel free to ask for invite as well.

So new Scorchfield seems to have a hidden effect to deal damage directly to my emulators system and

Ok the next line was summon Yesod but no my game just crashed while I was posting.

That was actually a pretty alright Run as well so I'm going to go lay down.

Fun little thing that I'm trying to do for fun, how many E.G.O Resources can I make in the 2 turns of station 1.

A normal 41 Resources in 2 turns is nice (you can also chose to get more Pride or Gluttony Resources same method)

EDIT: 43

My goodness an actual good Project Moon Youtuber?

I may be biased from the fact that I was mentioned in the video but genuinely it is fathoms better than most other such as they are called "Analysis" videos.

Notably the fact that even if you're not able to go deeper than mapping the lyrics onto the story of a character, it's still one step removed and better than just reciting the events of the story as they happened with some unfunny jokes in between.

AH!?!?

I've apparently been in a youtube description?

Uh they aren't from what we've seen.

This is almost entirely directed at (at the time because this ask was sent in May, my bad) Callisto Hong Lu following the HoS Ryoshuu uptie story, notably the line(s):

The excruciating agony that comes from being treated as mere "material."

With each carve that sheds the spalls from me, with each brushstroke that paints the drawing paper over with the horrid scenery of hell, my throat tears itself hoarse, and the beating of my heart grows so rapid it feels ready to split my chest open. A dramatization meant to stage the cruelest magnificence. The pain is unbearable. It convinces me that I will die from it, but the Nursefather knows the limits of my body all too well. The material that I am is trimmed and shaped until I am gasping for my last breath, screaming at the top of my lungs in impossible pain—just not close enough to black out.

(Blade of the House of Spiders Ryoshuu Identity Uptie Story Line(s): 38; 51-54)

Firstly. Callisto did not to our knowledge 'literally' treat Yoshihide as material. Despite this when she is born he does refer to her as such:

This alone is almost enough for me to end this here in my eyes but we can continue:

Callisto forces Yoshihide to bear witness to a vivisection at (age less than first grade, because we know she was relatively desensitised to it at that age from the intervallo 1)

We also know that Araya was forced to get prosthetics (eye implants, presumably more than that but not outright stated):

Even unwanted gifts can be of assistance. Like these prosthetic eyes that were forced upon me… red, just like mom's.

(Araya Announcer)

We can also assume that Ryoshuu herself got her eye prosthetics... with dubious consent considering she couldn't say no if she wanted to.

Moreover,

These two lines are right besides each other in "Hatching" (Before battle). The direct contrast between his appreciation of Yoshihide's learning to appreciate and look beyond the immediate emotions of the suffering to the greater artistic merit AND the contrast between his saying that people who do not do such have think weak bones.

The implication being made her is, of course, that Yoshihide has/had stronger bones AND he is aware of that.

To some extent I think its forgivable for these kinds of texts that are considered foundational to concepts to be fairly skin deep because they lay the scoring lines for later concepts to properly dig into the meat in their footsteps.

With contexts that lack empirical methods to "prove" the theory like sociology or other forms of feminist theory it is rather important to lay the groundwork, even if it results in the foundation not being as deep as it could be. This is to say that I can appreciate Whipping Girl as for what it is, as foundational text that helped to give credence to later ideas, but I don't think that it's the end all be all that everybody MUST read, especially if one is unfamiliar with feminist theory to begin with, and/or the context that surrounds the book in modern day with its shortcomings and flaws.

I think spouting the idea that any one text is the gospel of truth in something that is as variable and inconsistent as tackling the breadth of human experience, especially a text which is focused on the experience of a specific demographic, is a bad idea and fundamentally flawed; being the case I do think that the existence of the book and the ideas that it broke the soil and skin for are important and those who wish to better understand the transfeminine experience (and who have a grasp on concepts in feminist theory) should still read it.

Even being not the deepest it was impactful for a reason and cause, and even if most of it seems baseline to a reader it is important to be able to understand and digest other people's experiences on the matter of existence and existing. ...out of /10

To summarise my stance on the matter. People simply SHOULD be reading more about these topics. Both the texts that hold foundational and/or skin deep to their own beliefs, such that you can reassess your perspective or learn more about your underlying belief should it be the first proper inspection, and the texts that explore new or outright contradictory ideas because challenging and being able to reason with these opposed ideas is how one grows.

The nature of clinging onto a single idea as fundamentally and inherently correct and inerrant to all is not to be smarter than everyone else, it is dogma, and it is dangerous. If you cannot answer a question that counteracts your belief with argument more cutting than "Because that's the way that it is/should be", not the fault of the question does that make, and nor the fault lays with you by its nature. That is an opportunity for growth and learning.

Perhaps it's more easy come to those whose roots are had in scientific fields but it is important to be able to challenge yourself, to not 'accept' an idea, to fail to 'reject' it without fallacy. The fault lays only with one's self if they are to fall trap to this dogma and cannot place oneself in the prosecution's stand for lack of understanding the shortcomings, and respective defences, of one's belief or idea.

("Summarise my stance" and its the same length as the out of /10 bit god I speak too much)

Max (Demian's) mother is Frau Eva, so no, different biblical allusion for that character.

It is to be stated however that one could certainly see Carmen as a parallel to Eve (namely because she... is one) which acts as another link.

Anyways no, you might be confusing the fact that Beatrice (from chapter 4 "Beatrice") foreshadows the existence of Frau Eva (From chapter 7 "Eva") with the following chapter "The Bird Struggles Out of The Egg" seeing Emil more mature and aware of his "Self" and place in the world, alongside his yearning and lust for the image which he named "Beatrice" having passed, with the apparition of a new "dream form" appearing later in the chapter

(Note that the portrait of Max Demian/Beatrice is also said to be a reflection of Emil's own inner self. Following this realisation is when his love for Beatrice was tempered)

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So, to clarify background information, in Dante's Divine Comedy, there is a character named Beatrice. You may know her as the guide who replaces Virgil in Paradiso however it should be noted that she is the one who sent Virgil to Dante in the Dark Forest to begin with.

I was among those souls who are suspended; a lady [Beatrice] called to me, so blessed, so lovely that I implored to serve at her command. Her eyes surpassed the splendour of the star’s; and she began to speak to me—so gently and softly—with angelic voice. She said: ‘O spirit of the courteous Mantuan, [referring to Virgil] whose fame is still a presence in the world and shall endure as long as the world lasts, my friend [Dante], who has not been the friend of fortune, is hindered in his path along that lonely hillside; he has been turned aside by terror.

(Inferno 2:52-63)

Beatrice's name was taken from a woman whom Dante would meet only twice in his life, holding his love for her throughout and placing her as a central character in his poems. In the Divine Comedy, Beatrice is representative of holy love and purity, which is well agreed upon to be derived from Dante's love of the real Beatrice. As such, a popular idea is that whomever should the role of Beatrice take in an adaptation such as Limbus Company to be the love interest of "Dante".

Now, one could certainly understand Carmen to be reflective of Beatrice in Project Moon, with her existence in the Light (When we consider the Gnostic roots of Project Moon the Light reflects heaven itself and all of creation), as well as the earlier phrasing (Inferno 2:56-57)

"she began to speak to me—so gently and softly—with angelic voice."

With the most noted trait of Carmen's being her voice, described as "Angelic", "Like Sunlight", "Beautiful" etc.

Now as someone named Carmen (coincidental) who is not that much of a clockfucker, I'm not sure exactly how I feel about leaving it at Carmen x Dante. There's also the fact that we don't know if the Flow and the Light are connected, and there is too the fact that, while Veggie has heard Carmen's voice, he didn't exactly "serve at her command".

So. Max Demian.

For those of you which have read Demian, you may know where this is going, however:

"Demian: The story of Emil Sinclair's youth" page 75, Chapter 4:

(pg. 76)

My boyish charm had vanished, [twink death in prep school wow] I even felt that it was impossible for anyone to love me and I was out of love with myself [mood]. I often felt a great longing for Demian; but no less often I hated. him, holding him responsible for the impoverishment of my life which I was dragging round with me like a foul disease.

(pg. 87)

On that spring day in ,the park, then, I met a young woman. She was tall and slender, smartly dressed and had a boyish face. She attracted me immediately. She belonged to the type I liked and she began to fill my imagination. [He's so bisexual. Twinks and tomboys] [...] I called her Beatrice. for I knew about her, without having read Dante, from the reproduction of an English painting I had kept

(pg.s 89-90)

"Finally I began on my portrait of Beatrice. I spoilt a number of sheets of paper and threw them away. The more I endeavoured to capture the features of the girl whom I occasionally encountered in the street, the less successful I was. Finally I gave up the attempt and contented myself with painting a face from my imagination and ideas that arose spontaneously as I dipped my brush in the paint."

(pgs. 91-92)

All at once the right eye seemed to twitch, faintly but unmistakably and I was able to recognize the portrait [Of which he painted, of Beatrice] Why had it only just dawned on me I It was Demian's face. Later I often compared the face on the paper with Demian's features as l remembered them. They were certainly, though similar, not the same. But beyond all doubt, it was Demian.

Which is to say, Demian mirrors Beatrice in a very literal sense with them being likened to one in the same in following pages, and Emil's infatuation with Beatrice (and her name as such) are direct references to Dante's life and the Divine Comedy respectively.

Transmisogyny is, at least in the manner that it is used, the unique intersection of transphobia and misogyny as experienced by transgender women.

The problem is, transgender men too suffer a unique intersection of transphobia and misogyny, because misogyny and the patriarchy does not have a blanket nor net positive effect for all men. Please return to the more foundational side of feminist theory and re learn the fact that feminism is not only for the benefit of women. Please understand that intersectionality as a framework model is applicable to more than the one kind of social oppression AND privilege, and that being in a privileged class does not prevent one from using said model.

The tool is descriptive, not prescriptive.

Trans men suffer from misogyny, but the way that people use the word transmisogyny prevents them from falling under its definition. Yes, historically speaking transgender women are seen as more violent and dangerous or perverse persons than transgender men, but that does not mean that they did not suffer in their own unique way; Transgender men are, have been for the longest time, seen as confused and unwell women, people who are being mislead and who are naive to what they actual want. Do you know historically what happens to women seen as unstable or self-destructive? They were lobotomised and institutionalised. For decades.

Transmisogyny should be for all intents and purposes, a word that applies to both groups. Medically, both in history and in practice, both groups are seen as unwell, unstable and self destructive or confused. Socially, transgender people of either side suffer from misogyny and heteronormativity. I would think that people like myself, who grew up in the social environment of being "boys" or at least seen as them would realise the fact that being a man, or being perceived as one, does not exempt you by any means from suffering under misogyny.

And misogyny is something to be unlearned no matter who you are, even if you are a woman, if you're a man or anything else, you are not absolved by way of your existence.

Any definition which excludes or disregards the breadth of human experience is a bad definition; any definition which insists that reality must accommodate it, rather than the definition serving to reflect reality is a bad definition; any system, any definition, which acts to separate humanity into two strict and delineated categories, one which refuses the possibility of overlap or nuance, is a harmful, terrible definition.

Before I end: Not a counterargument but let me clarify myself and my stance:

Transmisogyny is terrible in all forms and is something that every person should be aware of their perpetuation of and their effect on.

I am a trans woman who has a background in psychology and sociology

Yes I have read Whipping Girl.

again and I do largely speaking agree with this that its extremely multivariate to what one could consider the strongest, my general philosophy is the character that involves the least investment for the best results (averaged across the different categories) like… uh.

I haven’t played AK in bordering on three years now uh… Degenbrecher for example(?) or Chalter. Crowd Control, AoE, extremely high damage, extremely high single target damage. Reliable skill rotation (Degen being the only of her type to have auto recharge), etc.

I will say it works more FOR arknights because of how the games are respectively structured, Limbus gameplay and challenges being almost entirely speed focused while CC in Arknights is less so and more about stacked debuffs/challenges with more room for stalling as viable, but the sentiment carries over yes.

I’ve said before I don’t think numerical tier lists are very helpful neither are any things which try to discern the “best” single ID in the game. My intent with the poll was (a) to see community opinion for the strongest ID in the list of those I would consider to all be on the same “Tier” for one reason or another.

Like I do think that HoS Ryoshuu, being the main second place, as well as almost all of the others on the poll have an argument to be made as “top tier ID(s)” especially when the term is nebulous to begin with.