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mybg3notebook Incredible Meta on EA's Astarion and I think this is exactly how the story and character should be approached, in BG3 release version as well
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"I may have power, but it would be nothing without you. You complete me. And together, we are unstoppable. So Heavens help the fool that tries to get in our way."
"We'll travel the lands together, tasting everything Faerûn has to offer. Perhaps we'll find somewhere we'd like to stay for a century or two - perhaps not. We have a beautiful, bloody future to look forward to, my love."
Soon they're gonna drop some new official canon lore, and then we'll see if you actually love Astarion or if you're just flicking the bean to his vampirism. I'm sure it's the second. Can't wait for the new mental gymnastics and toddler fits about it being a fanfic. Let's not forget what was said about you all a long time ago: 'I failed to see this video game character beyond my own fantasies.' I hope the sheer amount of butthurt burns a hole through your seats.
If by “new official canon lore” you mean the book “Baldur's Gate 3: Astarion” by T. Kingfisher, let me remind you that Wizards of the Coast chose a magnificent canonical cover for it:
The book is a prequel; any canonical information in it pertains to Astarion’s past—events that took place before the events of BG3, in case you didn’t know. I don’t think the author will start writing that “Astarion doesn’t want to Ascend” or suddenly replace her paladin with some bitch who’s supposed to “teach” or “fix” Astarion. No matter how much you might want that. If you’re referring to the TV series or the future BG4 game, that’s still years away.
I don't become attached to in-game LI based on their race or species; I bought BG3 simply because it’s part of the BG series, and I fell in love with Astarion as a person, for who he is—but I don’t think people obsessed with trying to screw things up for fans of vampire romance (for reasons I don’t understand, and for the sake of which they feel the need to ruin RPGs) are capable of understanding that. I haven’t read—and don’t intend to read—any of that trashy fiction about “abusive vampires” or whatever else you guys are into. In a normal world, players can romanticize any characters—whether the game features humans, vampires, drow, elves, or drukhari—it doesn’t matter, whoever has won their heart. And communicate normally, and learn new things from fans of one fictional race or another. Do you know, anon, that Astarion never stops being a vampire without Ascension? He only remains a “vampire spawn for the rest of his days,” with all the torments that come with that state. What have you forgotten about vampire fandom if you simply don’t like his vampirism? The most repulsive fantasy in vampire romance is the idea that some “teacher” can “teach” a vampire, force him to “accept darkness", and turn him into an ‘obedient boy’ who ‘will endeavor to please’ their fixer's ego.
'I failed to see this video game character beyond my own fantasies.' Should I be upset by Welch’s personal projection onto the consumers of the company’s products—a company that, for some inexplicable reason, hired a 23-year-old author with no relevant work experience for a “design supervisory role,” allowing them to come up with romantic scenarios?
Yes, it's terrible for an AAA studio to present players with romance of this quality.
Let’s not forget that in this very post, in which the author wants to “make the player feel” that the game has suddenly strayed beyond their “fantasies” of a classic RPG, D&D lore, and basic narrative logic—and is trying to turn into a cheap non-con fanfic— in that very same post, the author refers to the scene with Haarlep—which presents an opportunity for anyone who wants it to role-play a r*pe—as “an irreversible sex-pact, and I think that’s sexy.” In general, comparing Astarion’s romantic scene to the scene with Haarlep can really only make sense to someone with their own specific “fantasies” regarding game characters. From the standpoint of ordinary logic, any normal person would, of course, be very unpleasantly surprised upon reading this. But fetishes have their own logic.
“Mental gymnastics,” ahem. A check that Welch uses to try to impose their interests on players regarding “struggling with intimacy.”
“But I co-wrote quite a few of the scenes in the romance arc pertaining especially to struggling with intimacy, as that was my major interest to explore with the character.”
And the “bad ending” is what's known as “mind reading.”
“I feel with the bad ending, it's very much exactly that one sentence he says to you when you read his mind. 'He will always see you as degrading yourself if you continue to be with him... but that's perhaps what you like.'
But according to D&D mechanics, there isn't even any “mind reading” going on here. You don't need to use a mind-reading potion or a spell. The line looks like this:
The tadpole is not used to enter a mind in this scene either. In-game interactions with the tadpole are written as: “Tav [Wisdom/tadpole]”. Furthermore, mind reading using the tadpole in the game always comes with its own visual effects. These effects are absent in the “degradation” check scene. It is impossible to read someone’s thoughts using just a Wisdom check. A standard Insight check cannot directly “probe a person’s mind” or “see what he really thinks about you”; it works more logically—it allows you to detect signs of lying or any emotions on the character’s face, that is, what we can discern through observation—body language. In this scene, Astarion doesn’t display any body language, speech patterns, or other cues that would allow Tav to draw SUCH conclusions.
And when we use a mind-reading potion or spell to read the thoughts of quest NPCs, it always unlocks an additional dialogue option for interacting with them. That’s what mind-reading is used for in the game. This “mind-reading” is the only instance in the game that doesn’t unlock any additional interaction options. Not only is this not “mind reading,” but it’s also the only useless and pointless check of “something” in the entire game. It violates the player’s agency—what’s the point of a check to see someone’s thoughts (without a scroll, spell, or using a tadpole) if you can’t react to it in any way, other than silently agreeing? The sole purpose of this check is—
“It's ultimately reducing your relationship with him back to being a kink/form of gratification.”
Not only does it feature the author’s fetishes and fanfiction, but it’s also a fanfiction that’s incredibly poorly crafted and executed by breaking the game’s mechanics. The very premise of this “check” is based on exploiting Astarion’s trauma. It exploits his pain and his belief that he is unworthy of love. Similarly, the ability to force him into sex in Act 2 is based on exploiting his trauma, and the ability to drag him into a brothel and make him experience dissociation there is based on the same thing. The author of the brothel scene, presented as “fun,” is trying to “teach” people “lessons for real life” (“But it isn’t something that I think is a lesson for real life”).
Welch themselves do not even see the script or the character's lines, “beyond their own fantasies."
Welch's own fantasies: 'The fact that they were willing to let me kill all these people... it's by no means a forgivable thing to do… , they'd even be willing to commit such an atrocity...”
Astarion in the game:
“It doesn't matter. I will need to sacrifice them all if I want to perform the ritual.”
“What's the point? They're as good as dead. I thought they were dead. If they are unleashed, they will cause incredible carnage. They will be ravenous. They must die. Better they serve a purpose.”
Astarion without Tav, whom no one helped to Ascend, “commits such an atrocity” himself:
“As for those wretches in the cells - if I don't get my freedom, neither do they.”
And before performing the ritual:
“These people died years ago, trust me on that. All that's left are feral spawn, desperate for blood.
If we release them, how many people will they kill? Tens of thousands? Hundreds of thousands?”
And—most importantly:
“But if they die and I ascend, I won't have to rely on the parasite to walk in the sun. I'll be free - truly, completely free. Isn't that what you want?”
Is that what you want? For me to be able to see the sun? For me to become “truly, completely free”?
Over the years, a handful of bitches in the fandom have constantly tried to turn this into some kind of “vampire fetish,” label it “madness,” and come up with anything and everything—just to avoid acknowledging one simple fact. The fact is that choosing Ascension is the “YES” answer to Astarion’s question. That’s all. The desire for him to be able to walk in the sun and be truly, completely free. Is that clear, anon? And there’s one more simple thing that renders all your pathetic fantasies about inflicting emotional harm on people—those who see Astarion happily laughing in the game, rejoicing in victory, basking in the sunshine in the docks scene, and transforming into a charming bat at the party—utterly ridiculous. The joy of realizing that I’m not similar to someone like you. That realization fills me with positivity.
Astarion's vampirism a part of him, regardless of the desires projected onto him anon, Welch, and others like them.
If you look for people in the Astarion fandom who ignore his personality, these are the ones.
For Astarion, it's okay to be a vampire - and a true vampire.
Astarion never even mentions trying to be human at this point.
Astarion clearly doesn't see his vampirism as a way to please anyone.
The main pain point when someone is using him, is his appearance, his fangs, his emotions. When he chooses to do vampire-like things and bite, he has no problem with it.
Astarion makes the decision.
Astarion even sought out vampirism himself, as we know from Larian's artbook, for which they produced a physical edition in 2025.
It’s probably worth mentioning that the artbook was released when the entire Act 1 was already complete, and it contains a massive amount of content featuring the character. It’s pretty strange, overall, to abandon such a fundamental part of the character’s backstory.
Maybe the book will hint at this and expand on this idea, which is what got many people interested in Astarion in the first place.
Loving Astarion means accepting who he is. Don't try to twist him to fit your tastes, morals, or ideas. And to shape him into the person you think he should be through sacrifice and suffering for you.
Mature adult love isn't about that. If you decide that you have to start changing a person, it usually leads to a downfall.
And if you don't like vampires, just pick another character, honestly.
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“So why would any vampire give up control over a spawn to create a competitor? Trust me. It doesn't happen.”
I often see people automatically reduce Ascended Astarion to "Cazador 2.0," drawing a direct parallel between Cazador's relationship with Astarion and Tav's relationship with Ascended Astarion. More often than not, the only argument behind this comparison is that both characters are vampire lords.
Being a true vampire or a Vampire Lord does not, by itself, determine someone's personality. D&D lore makes it clear that true vampires are not all the same. Yes, many vampires are cruel tyrants who see their spawn as nothing more than extensions of their own will. But that is far from the only possible dynamic between a vampire and the spawn they create. There are vampires who are capable of affection, love, trust, and even willingly giving up control over their spawn.
For example, let's take a look at the official D&D Beyond article:
Ever want to be a vampire? Here's what it takes to become one, the obstacles you'll face, and more!
Regaining Control of Yourself
All vampires begin their journey under the control of the vampire who sired them. However, if a vampire lets their progeny drink blood from their own body, their spawn will be given free will. Very few vampires choose to give up control of their spawn like this, and for good reason. Most vampires are control freaks, and see their spawn as mere extensions of their will. But other, more ethical vampires may exert this control to reign in their fledgling spawn’s blood lust, choosing to free their spawn once they understand the subtle and dangerous line they must walk between the living and the dead.
Note the wording here is very specific; the true vampire must allow their spawn to draw and drink their blood in order to relinquish their control over them in that manner. The only other way a vampire spawn can achieve free will is if their master dies. So if you’re playing a vampire spawn, and you want out from under the thumb of your master, you need to either find a way to kill them (good luck, considering they have total control over you) or somehow convince them to give up their control over you. This is no easy feat.
If you are playing a vampire that has agency, you and/or your DM should have a clear reason as to why you were granted such a gift by your creator. Maybe you reminded them of a loved one from their mortal life, or perhaps you carried out a deed for them and were granted this as a reward.
This passage is particularly interesting for several reasons.
First, the text explicitly states that not all true vampires are alike. Yes, the majority of vampires are obsessed with control and view their spawn merely as extensions of themselves.
But immediately afterward, the article introduces a contrast:
"But other, more ethical vampires..."
In other words, the lore doesn't say that every true vampire is inevitably a tyrant toward their spawn. It explicitly allows for a separate category of vampires who use their control not for personal gratification or power, but as a temporary measure — to help a newly turned spawn get through the most dangerous period of their new existence and keep them from causing harm along the way.
Second, the lore establishes that free will can be the creator's own conscious choice. A vampire can voluntarily relinquish their power over a spawn by allowing them to drink their blood. Some vampires choose to free their spawn once they believe they are ready.
The final paragraph is just as important. It encourages players to come up with their own reason why a vampire might grant freedom to their spawn:
"Maybe you reminded them of a loved one… or perhaps you carried out a deed for them and were granted this as a reward."
In other words, the relationship between a true vampire and their spawn does not have to be built solely on abuse and enslavement. The rules explicitly allow freedom to be granted out of affection, respect, gratitude, or any number of deeply personal reasons.
For that reason, the claim that "no true vampire would ever willingly give up control over their spawn" simply isn't supported by D&D lore. The rules clearly allow for different kinds of true vampires.
Cazador represents perhaps the most classic archetype: a vampire utterly consumed by domination and control. At the same time, the lore explicitly recognizes the existence of vampires who are fundamentally different from him. In other words, being a true vampire does not prescribe a single inevitable relationship dynamic between creator and spawn. Personality still matters.
Third, Astarion willingly gives Tav his blood. And he does so for multiple reasons. On one hand, Tav is the person he loves. On the other, Tav has fundamentally changed his life and earned both his gratitude and his trust. Within that context, offering Tav the "gift of immortality" functions not only as an expression of love, but also as a reward — a way of repaying everything Tav has done for him.
Cazador created Astarion as a slave, turning him into both a tool and disposable property. After ascending, Astarion theoretically has the power to repeat that same cycle — to become another Cazador and reduce someone else to what he once was himself. But possibility does not equal inevitability.
Instead, Ascended Astarion voluntarily gives Tav his blood, creating a direct inversion of what Cazador once did to him. He takes the very same vampiric system that was used to enslave him and transforms it into an act of trust, love, and gratitude. What was once the source of his own suffering becomes, in his hands, an opportunity to give someone else what he himself was forever denied.
There are other sources that point toward the same conclusion as well:
«Creator vampires, particularly those who created the bride out of love, will be totally honest with their bride, depending on loyalty, friendship, and even reciprocated love, to keep the bride from trying to bring about their destruction. This is arguably the most beneficial situation for both vampires, because two vampires cooperating are much more dangerous than two creatures involved in machinations against each other. A creator and bride who truly love and trust each other make a team that is exceptionally difficult to defeat!»
«Many laypersons, and even some experts who should know better, cling to the totally false belief that all vampires are virtually identical. I must admit that I can understand this fixation: if one can list, categorize, and completely describe all the attributes and powers of a vampire, the fiend becomes significantly less horrifying. Humans and demihumans find the unknown to be much more threatening than the worst of the known.
Consider, then, how much more terrifying is the creature that might have abilities and attributes that are totally unexpected. Clinging to the familiar catalog of characteristics is, thus, intellectual laziness—a refusal to take that first step into uncharted territory. It is also highly self-destructive behavior, particularly among those who would hunt vampires.
As mentioned earlier, most of the discussions to this point refer to the "typical" vampire, and hence are wrong to one degree or another, because the truly typical vampire does not exist. We could, of course, consider "typical" to refer to a broad category of creatures into which most vampires fall. The majority of vampires will show some similarity with this "main sequence" of vampiredom (if I may so coin a word). The more unusual vampires, thus, fall outside this sequence.»
«The vast majority of vampires view their offspring simply as disposable tools, to be used and then discarded. Yet there are some, it seems, who feel some kind of empathy for their “children.”
These rare creatures will “raise” their offspring, teaching them all they need to know to survive in the world, and then send them forth to “live their own lives.”
Gratitude is an uncommon thing among vampires, however, and offspring of such sentimental creatures generally view this “care” as weakness. Vampires who care for their offspring are most often destroyed by those very offspring.
Vampires differ in their motivations when creating offspring. Some fledglings do it accidentally, not yet understanding the consequences of killing a foe. Others do it to create slaves for themselves. Some few seem to need contact with members of their own kind and so create companions.
This latter group are more likely to become the sentimental “parents” described above, and are hence most likely to meet destruction at the hands of their offspring.
When a vampire is destroyed, all semblance of control over its offspring immediately vanishes. Most offspring will immediately go about their own business.
I have heard of some rare creatures who have sought the destroyers of their creator and wreaked vengeance on them. I find this somewhat hard to believe because it implies a sense of loyalty, even love of a kind, between vampires.
Stephen Rooney has also pointed out that vampires are, above all else, individuals with distinct personalities. Astarion is perhaps one of the clearest examples of that idea. He isn't simply "a typical vampire" pulled from a generic template—he is a character shaped by his own past, his trauma, his experiences, and his worldview. Cazador and Astarion may share the same supernatural nature, but that does not make them the same person, nor does it mean that every relationship involving a true vampire must inevitably mirror the dynamic between them.
Interviewer:
Astarion, you know, for all of his edginess, right? He's not a typical vampire from pop culture in the sense that oftentimes they're thought of as soulless, right? In a lot of pop culture tropes, they're very one-dimensional. They don't have a soul. They're seeking out blood, and that kind of defines them in a lot of ways.
But just the fact that Astarion can have relationships, he can actually feel something for other people, and he can feel emotional pain — how did you reconcile that with the fact that he's a vampire?
Stephen Rooney:
It was tricky because you're absolutely right that you have this sense of, and it's true of vampire spawn in D&D as well, that a vampire can just be a bit minimalistic. They want blood and that's their only driving force.
Actually, I'm not sure whether or not D&D vampires have souls or not, or if they've passed on, but they definitely have personalities for sure. You have some fantastic vampires in D&D lore and in the world of D&D.
So it wasn't too difficult to say, "Oh, Astarion is going to be someone who has a personality, can fall in love, has a whole bunch of trauma."
But you're right, the big thing then to balance is the bloodlust, and it makes interesting story moments if Astarion is kind of overcome — if he's feeding on you and he can't stop himself.
I also think most people would agree that, in many respects, Astarion is anything but a "typical" member of his kind. If he were, any good-aligned ending for him would be impossible. Vampire spawn are warped by the vampiric curse, which pushes them toward cruelty, selfishness, and the pursuit of power. On top of that, Astarion's own backstory makes it fairly clear that, even before becoming a vampire, he was hardly what anyone would describe as a particularly kind person.
So what does the lore actually say about vampire spawn?
At the end of the day, vampires remain some of the most fascinating creatures in D&D. In my opinion, the subject is far more nuanced — and far more open to interpretation — than fandom discussions often make it out to be. The same is true for vampire spawn. As Stephen Rooney's interview demonstrated, this part of the lore leaves plenty of room for different readings and doesn't always offer clear-cut, definitive answers.
Stephen Rooney:
I think there's some complexity to it, and I think vampires by their very nature are complex creatures. Especially the vampires we see now. Like Astarion is, I would argue, neither good nor bad. I mean he is a vampire.
Hello, darlings! 🦇 I came across an interesting article on D&D Beyond about how one actually becomes a vampire according to the rules, and the longer I read, the louder one thought echoed in my head "so this is literally Ascended Astarion and Tav!"💕:
"Regaining Control of Yourself
All vampires begin their journey under the control of the vampire who sired them. However, if a vampire lets their progeny drink blood from their own body, their spawn will be given free will. Very few vampires choose to give up control of their spawn like this, and for good reason. Most vampires are control freaks, and see their spawn as mere extensions of their will. But other, more ethical vampires may exert this control to reign in their fledgling spawn’s blood lust, choosing to free their spawn once they understand the subtle and dangerous line they must walk between the living and the dead. Note the wording here is very specific; the true vampire must allow their spawn to draw and drink their blood in order to relinquish their control over them in that manner. The only other way a vampire spawn can achieve free will is if their master dies. So if you’re playing a vampire spawn, and you want out from under the thumb of your master, you need to either find a way to kill them (good luck, considering they have total control over you) or somehow convince them to give up their control over you. This is no easy feat. If you are playing a vampire that has agency, you and/or your DM should have a clear reason as to why you were granted such a gift by your creator. Maybe you reminded them of a loved one from their mortal life, or perhaps you carried out a deed for them and were granted this as a reward."
- From the article by Kyle Shire on D&D Beyond
Ever want to be a vampire? Here's what it takes to become one, the obstacles you'll face, and more!
Let's start with the main thing: according to D&D lore, an ordinary spawn does NOT drink the blood of its creator. At all. The blood of a master is a special gift that a true vampire gives voluntarily and extremely rarely. Now let's recall the well-known fact that Ascended Astarion gives Tav his blood and mentions it several times. Furthermore, he allows Tav to bite him whenever she wants.
Player: Will you still drink my blood?
Astarion: Of course I will, and you'll drink mine. I can't wait to taste your lips after you've tasted me.
(Also we have the bite skill after turning and can bite Astarion)
The article explicitly lists the reasons why a creator might take such a step: the spawn reminded the vampire of someone they loved in life, or performed a great deed for them and received blood as a reward. Doesn't that remind you of anything? Tav is his beloved, and it was Tav who helped him complete the ritual and ascend ❤️
According to the rules, a spawn that drinks the blood of its creator becomes a true vampire. What happens to Tav during the transformation isn't turning into a spawn, as in the D&D rules. So what is it? And that leaves exactly one lore option, in which a creature drinks the blood of a vampire but remains metaphysically linked to it, possessing complete free will: the vampire bride. The Dark Kiss ritual 👰🏻♀️
And yes, I know he himself calls Tav a spawn.But "spawn," first and foremost, just means "progeny". Astarion isn't quoting a bestiary entry, he's saying Tav is his creation, his handiwork. Plus, vampire brides are technically considered spawn, but they have free will, are created in euphoria, and receive the blood of their creator. They aren't considered servants, like regular vampire spawn. It's a formal category. The mechanics of bride creation are exactly the same as what happens to Tav in the game during the romance with Ascended Astarion, and are completely different from how Cazador created Astarion.
You can learn more about the lore of the vampire bride in my video:
One of the brilliant moments in BG3 is how close Astarion and Tav feel right after the Ascension ritual. He’s at the peak of his triumph, finally living out a dream that once felt hopeless and he simply says "We did."
"I've been out seeing the world, visiting cities charming dignitaries, and making friends up and down the Sword Coast. I'm spinning my web. Power grows slowly, but I have nothing but time now."
"But the important thing is I am doing wonderfully. Finally having a life that's worth living."
So Ascended Astarion feels quite happy and ready to live life to the fullest, without limiting himself in anything.
I see a lot of "analysis" about this being a bad ending, an unhappy one.
Astarion doesn't regret what he did. He also thanks Tav TWICE for helping him ascend.
They can travel together. Enjoy food, walk in the sun, without feeling terribly hungry. Their hearts beat. Is this an unhappy ending, in your opinion?
In my opinion, it's your headcanon that you consider this ending unhappy only to validate your spawn choice in the game. As if your spawn Astarion would suddenly become Ascended if you didn't try every day to come up with ways to denigrate the opposite ending. Accept that Astarion has two paths.
Yes, they're different, but he's still the same Astarion.
"Little love, whatever could be the matter?"
"Ask me anything, and it will be yours."
"Yes, my treasure?"
"You want to talk? Oh, that's very cute."
"Aeterna amantes. Lovers forever, until the world falls down."
"We are sovereigns. My sole endeavour now is to make this world yours and mine alone."
Is this how "abuse" look like? Really?
If you truly consider a couple of lines during a breakup to be abuse, then I congratulate you, you're a poser who knows nothing about real abuse. By claiming that Ascended Astarion is an abuser, you're downplaying the meaning of the word and belittling the victims of real abuse.
P.S. And I kindly ask you to stop projecting the real world issues onto RPGs. This is f*cking Faerun, not our planet.
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"I've been out seeing the world, visiting cities charming dignitaries, and making friends up and down the Sword Coast. I'm spinning my web. Power grows slowly, but I have nothing but time now."
"But the important thing is I am doing wonderfully. Finally having a life that's worth living."
So Ascended Astarion feels quite happy and ready to live life to the fullest, without limiting himself in anything.
I see a lot of "analysis" about this being a bad ending, an unhappy one.
Astarion doesn't regret what he did. He also thanks Tav TWICE for helping him ascend.
They can travel together. Enjoy food, walk in the sun, without feeling terribly hungry. Their hearts beat. Is this an unhappy ending, in your opinion?
In my opinion, it's your headcanon that you consider this ending unhappy only to validate your spawn choice in the game. As if your spawn Astarion would suddenly become Ascended if you didn't try every day to come up with ways to denigrate the opposite ending. Accept that Astarion has two paths.
Yes, they're different, but he's still the same Astarion.
"Little love, whatever could be the matter?"
"Ask me anything, and it will be yours."
"Yes, my treasure?"
"You want to talk? Oh, that's very cute."
"Aeterna amantes. Lovers forever, until the world falls down."
"We are sovereigns. My sole endeavour now is to make this world yours and mine alone."
Is this how "abuse" look like? Really?
If you truly consider a couple of lines during a breakup to be abuse, then I congratulate you, you're a poser who knows nothing about real abuse. By claiming that Ascended Astarion is an abuser, you're downplaying the meaning of the word and belittling the victims of real abuse.
P.S. And I kindly ask you to stop projecting the real world issues onto RPGs. This is fcking Faerun, not our planet.
this face kills me every time. THIS is the "asshole slaver Ascended Astarion" with glossy eyes over his non-romanced friend Tav becoming a mind flayer and leaving him forever.
"I'm sure you'll make the right choice" ---- EXACTLY what we (can) say to him right before confronting Cazador after meeting Sebastian and the Gur children.
THIS is Ascended Astarion already giving back the exact same love his only friend, the player character, gave him if we let him be his idea of Free and Ascend him. He hangs his head and sighs - disappointment, mourning - if you tell him you're becoming a mind flayer. But respecting your choice all the same, letting you do what's best for you because you did the same for him.
This is NOT the face or words of someone who no longer feels, who only wants to enslave, who only cares about power. This is the face of someone who loves the person they're looking at.
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Free Camera when Ascended Astarion waits for Tav to wake up in the epilogue:
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Also, Someone is very obsessed with me and hates Ascended Astarion that much... They argue with my every post, while they blocked me 😂
It's genuinely fascinating when someone blocks me... and then apparently keeps tabs on every post I make 😂 I have fans who go into the Astarion tag hoping to see something positive about their favorite character, and instead they find your meltdowns over my posts, so I am aware of you, dear.
Imagine hating Ascended Astarion so much that he becomes a full-time unpaid job.
Imagine blocking someone because you supposedly can't stand their content…
…and then spending your time screenshotting their posts just so you can complain about them. 😂
Darling, you are so obssessed with me, I'm going to vomit. Such hatred for Ascended Astarion…
Maybe you should just make positive spawn content? Hmm? Or spend that time on psychiatry @cosmicrequiemorb .....or Rote? You have so many accounts... 😏
Btw Astarion makes that Grinch-like face all the time, just like in the scene in bed
The post mentions haters who fly into a rage over positive content about AA -> the haters start flying into a rage
Their rage is so intense that instead of their vision, they must be seeing nothing but a solid red screen… Because that face is literally Spawn's face in Final.
That's the whole point of anti-aa-analysis.
Whether it's a weak "analysis" like the one about faces or a more detailed post - the point is the same.
To concoct a fake to fit their hatred of AA and a twisted perception, rather than love the character.
Classic since 2023
BULLSHIT
Anti-fans of AA fans. They're trying🥀
These false posts about his face and the look in his eyes.
Astarion, honest reaction: