I know when Deanna walked out of the room after pulling her "try me" line in Reg's dabo girl ex that Admiral Paris had a moment of "this is why Picard refuses to let this one go"

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I know when Deanna walked out of the room after pulling her "try me" line in Reg's dabo girl ex that Admiral Paris had a moment of "this is why Picard refuses to let this one go"

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"There is still 23 of our former comrades"
I will never understand how they got Voyager with not even the entire Maquis. Like, I get they armed themselves but as we see so was everyone else. So the biggest argument is really the whole taken by surprise thing. But you are saying that not ONE section got off a warning to another? Also, it all just makes no sense.
The moment Janeway discovered the hidden message in Tuvok's letter that impacted Tuvok she knew he was up to something and doing something so yes she would be loyal to all her crew still but she would be on high alert. The moment she lost contact with Tuvok she would have contacted Harry on the bridge and put him on alert. The only reason this plot works is because they bypass the things we typically see from Kathryn and act like she wouldn't be being extra cautious with the fact that multiple crew have been targeted and potentially impacted by the same thing as Tuvok has been.
Anyways, the best way this could have gone down is to have had Chakotay with Janeway talking to Tuvok so the moment Tuvok gave his little extra notice Janeway was taken out as then the alert doesn't go out. Take out EMH and Tom at same time.... It's just a lot of blatant sort of "no one is calling for help to any other section because we all trust each other so of course despite Tuvok having a problem right now we won't suspect he may have done something when mind melding with the individuals he targeted"
Which .... Is a severe lack of thinking which makes no sense.
I like the episode just if they didn't add that particular line about having to get the rest of the Maquis as well it actually wouldn't make me be all "you got the 130+ people on the ship secure with like 5 people?"
And now for the episode where I get to watch what is essentially my medical system at work.
You know the one where the Doctor is told to work on specific people in a certain more upscale manner because they were deemed by a system to be more valuable.
And now for the episode where I get to watch what is essentially my medical system at work.
You know the one where the Doctor is told to work on specific people in a certain more upscale manner because they were deemed by a system to be more valuable.
Tuvok in "Repressions": I got this hunch, I'm chasing this hunch
Tuvok finding Janeway in the Holodeck: It's me in the hunch, lock me away
This show putting this man through so much. They introduced him to use like "Here is Tuvok, a Vulcan security chief who is dedicated to protecting his Captain - his best friend - and maintaining his control" and then IMMEDIATELY spend the entire series having him lose control, be a threat to his space bestie, and just destroying him as a whole.
They didn't even give him a break in the series finale. They went "what if we give him Vulcan dementia?" I hope he got a nice long meditative vacation when they got home. (He probably didn't. He probably went immediately into a security undercover mission)

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Tuvok "here is my latest security report"
Janeway "later"
Neelix "latest race update"
Tuvok "gives the logical reason why"
Janeway "want to review that report now?"
Tuvok "later"
I love that she just immediately looked at him and teased him for getting into the race. She knows her best friend so well and was so ready to be all "oh look at you participating with crew activities Tuvok"
Janeway: I'm going on a trip in my favorite rocket ship
Tuvok: Were going on a mission
Janeway: you messed up the song and you invited yourself again
Someone else from her senior staff: you'll need me too
Janeway: This was so much easier when we first got stranded
Chakotay: probably shouldn't have tried running off on dangerous missions every other day
Janeway: WHY ARE YOU PACKED TO GO TO I LEFT YOU THE BRIDGE
Chakotay: Harry has it
I love that by S7 every time Janeway mentions she is going to go do something SOMEONE immediately is like "I'm joining" while Tuvok is already at her side like "you thought bestie" and Chakotay is trying not to laugh. Like she really thought she'd get away alone as if Tuvok isn't always glued to her side if he hasn't gotten Chakotay there instead. The other one is a bonus because everyone has learned Janeway, Tuvok, and Chakotay are just safety hazards
Janeway: I'm going on a trip in my favorite rocket ship
Tuvok: Were going on a mission
Janeway: you messed up the song and you invited yourself again
Someone else from her senior staff: you'll need me too
Janeway: This was so much easier when we first got stranded
Chakotay: probably shouldn't have tried running off on dangerous missions every other day
Janeway: WHY ARE YOU PACKED TO GO TO I LEFT YOU THE BRIDGE
Chakotay: Harry has it
I love that by S7 every time Janeway mentions she is going to go do something SOMEONE immediately is like "I'm joining" while Tuvok is already at her side like "you thought bestie" and Chakotay is trying not to laugh. Like she really thought she'd get away alone as if Tuvok isn't always glued to her side if he hasn't gotten Chakotay there instead. The other one is a bonus because everyone has learned Janeway, Tuvok, and Chakotay are just safety hazards
Okay, so I may be having a tiny chuckle at the fact that since Q threw the Enterprise into the DQ and introduced them to the Borg .... Starfleet has been trying to figure out how to eliminate that treat. Multiple species have in face since before then and even after. None of them have really managed though.
Meanwhile, in just a years time you have "Unimatrix" and "Endgame" ..... Within one episode Janeway introduces a virus that liberates countless drones from the collective due to them having a unique gene that allows them to exist as individuals during regeneration. And due to this the Queen takes out thousands of drones (Janeway suffering through this is also a whole other post for Janeway alone). Borg ships end up taken over by drones who have been liberated. Like, yes we have Hugh and what happens with him in TNG and of course the various fights but this episode gives us MULTIPLE Borg ships and drones that end up taken over by xBs - it's the start of the Borg down fall. Then in "Endgame" you have Janeway - two of them this time - introduce ANOTHER virus to the Borg that DECIMATES them and destroys them so bad it's not until the end of the century that the Queen is able to even try anything again (at least as shown within the shows) in any really true take over style. And she's basically a mess still.
Starfleet should have just sent Janeway from the start I guess.
I love that when Janeway gets a Borg distress call from Unimatrix 0 the Borg Queen tries diplomacy to avoid having to confront Janeway and Janeway is all "that's cute, what if I get assimilated instead?"
Only for like not even a year later the Queen to face an Admiral version of Janeway who pulls another "you offered me your translator corridors once, what if I get assimilated?"
And both times .... The Queen falls for it

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Thinking about Tuvok in Unimatrix Zero now actually and how he deliberately got himself on this mission specifically to keep Janeway safe. And this is a mission where he would be ALLOWING himself to get assimilated and as a result handing his logic and control over to another individual. Something that has to be a nightmare for Vulcans.
We spend this whole series watching how he is about Janeway and her safety. The way these two are. And here he is willingly handing over himself and all he is just to ensure she remains protected. And when they are assimilated .... She is taken away from them. He immediately finds B'Elanna and one of the first things he checks on is the change in her voice. Not on her progress with the assignment but the fact her voice is altered. He is actively seeking to ensure she herself is okay before seeing that the mission is well. And she responds, confirms some mission things along with seeing to him, and asks about Janeway. Where he informs that she got separated from him.
That HAS to be brutal for him. The entire reason he out himself on this mission was to ensure her safety. To see that this mission went well and that she remained safe. Only to basically immediately have her separated from him during assimilation. And once he does find her it is HIM that becomes the risk to her as the neurosuppressant begins to wear off. Just. ....
I will not be over this episode and what it puts Tuvok through as Vulcan. A Vulcan security chief. And one who is best friends with his Captain.
I love that Voyager just left an alien on deck twelve but we also canonically have people working on deck 15. Like, do they just bypass that deck for months? Did Janeway just skip by that deck during "Good Sheppard"? Also want to know how often she stopped by and talked to the alien after it took over her ship and made the ship basically sentient
I love Janeway realizing some of her crew hasnt been on a single away mission and are struggling to do well on Voyager ..... So she decides to personally take them out on an away mission that is simple and easy and should have little to no issues but get them some experience. Only for everything to go wrong. The hypochondriac ends up abducted and an alien worm crawling in his skin. The self-conscious one everyone doubts ends up having to take in the Tuvok and Chakotay roll of refusing to let Janeway go down with the ship. And the would rather be alone and not care about anyone person .... Tries to go down with the ship instead because now he cares.
Meanwhile, Voyager comes to the rescue and Chakotay is just there for Janeway to wake up to give her the "how is it every time you leave the ship me and Tuvok have to play rescue the Captain?" And she is just like "my crew how are they?" And he's like "you nearly died and they are fine can you please explain" and she's like "we ran into a wolf" and he's internally screaming because that tells him nothing and he doesn't even know if he'll be able to get the report from her and now he's gonna have to go to Tuvok to bypass security protocols just to figure out what they all just went through because Janeway is Janewaying
I love that everyone on Voyager just torments Tuvok.
That man is the Chief of Security and the one who is running in to rescue every single person in that ship (typically with the Captain right at his side) .... And frequently we hear in the show how even random ensign of the episode knows of his family, partook in the latest prank against him, curious about this or that in Tuvok's life, etc.
And it's not just Tuvok either .. the whole ship is clearly a family because everyone cares for everyone but it's the way that Harry just takes Mezoti in an episode to go mess with one of Tuvok's holoprograms is HILARIOUS. This girl has been in the ship for weeks, she's new. Tuvok hasn't even gotten to give her a proper safety lecture and ground her yet. Or do a "excuse me Captain, a member of the crew" like he's done for Naomi ... And meanwhile Harry is like "welp, youre on team pranks now"
I love this crew. They just always messing with each other. I wonder who has pranked Janeway (besides Tuvok and Chakotay that is because we know those two have no qualms messing with her)
Voyager giving us "Night" were we get Janeway beating herself up over her decisions to strand the ship and the consequences of that. The lost crew that has followed that decision. Everyone cut off from home as a result. The way we constantly see her dealing with this throughout the series up to this point and even after this ...
Only for "Ashes to Ashes" to give us the story of Lindsey Ballard and how she died only to be found by a species who revives the dead as a way to procreate. And have Ballard tell have dinner with Janeway and during that dinner end up proclaiming a never harbor ill will towards those who brought you death belief. And blatantly tell Janeway that she isn't angry at her for she allowed her to die and as a result she gave her life.
Things that probably haunt Janeway to hear. Just thinking

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I wonder if Tuvok was suffering in "Memorial" like everyone else. Though, admittedly, they don't really depict Janeway as suffering like the others. Chakotay isa bit jumpy at times, Neelix deep in grief, Tom has anger coming out, and Harry is bouncing around with emotions. Really all 4 have different things happening and yes Chakotay is the calmest of those 4. And when we see the entire crew is being impacted we see everyone in the mess hall is huddled up on themselves and some are sweaty and it's clear everyone is struggling.
Meanwhile, Tuvok ... Nothing. Janeway ... "How long was I out?" And I bit phased but no more than she ever is when her crew and ship is dealing with something. She's the one gently touching Chakotay when he gets jumpy planet side. She's just chill and in full Captain mode. And im honestly not surprised because "Night" showed us what happens if Kathryn Janeway LETS herself succumb to her memories and thoughts. And thats basically crashing and hiding away. So, here as memories are haunting her from another culture - yeah weighing in her - she is holding herself to that Captain facade so that she won't give in to it all.
Meanwhile, Tuvok isn't really indicating that he even had the memories but the lines in the episode imply that he did. Especially when discussing the memorial and what to do. If he is the sheer amount of Vulcan fortitude he must be holding to has to be keeping him also in his tactical Starfleet Vulcan mode.
Everyone goes and gets drunk in Sandrines after this, meanwhile Tuvok and Janeway probably slipped away to their quarters just to let go of their mental blocks and actually process/meditate/deal with it.
Man, it would have been really interesting if Starfleet Academy revisited the planet from "Blink of an Eye" and we got to see what happened with them given the time difference and also the whole Burn issue. Did it impact that planet? But also just imagine someone from that species just showing up and seeing the Doctor and immediately being like "SKYSHIP DOCTOR" and everyone is all ???? And the Doctor is now stuck having to give a lecture in accidentally becoming a god to a planet. And we get a "most times it's easily fixed, sometimes you end up being the entire mythology behind an entire culture until they discover space travel and realize you are just aliens stuck in their atmosphere"