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I will be reaching the end of Voyager today which means EPIC songs are really haunting me right now. That is all

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So, in "Relativity", when Seven is in dry dock Joe Carey flirts with her. The. In "Friendship One" he mentions having a wife and her pregnancy. So, like .... Given the dry dock scene is barely before "Caretaker" ..... What?
(yeah yeah I know just the typical Trek "forgot we wrote that" stuff but still it makes for a interesting thing to look at)
So, in "Relativity", when Seven is in dry dock Joe Carey flirts with her. The. In "Friendship One" he mentions having a wife and her pregnancy. So, like .... Given the dry dock scene is barely before "Caretaker" ..... What?
(yeah yeah I know just the typical Trek "forgot we wrote that" stuff but still it makes for a interesting thing to look at)
"if we have another baby, you carry it and I go on the away missions"
"it's a deal,"
So .... Did They have another baby Trek and did Tom carry it?
Picard: faces a singular Q in a trial
Janeway: continuously faces multiple Q and even at one point has 3 Q before her in the same trial garb Picard had to deal with
I love that Trek is like "what if we just make Janeway go through Kirk and Picard stuff but like double it?"
Also, the way she is so ready and willing to adopt Junior is just so very her. She adopts so many and makes them family in this ship. Is ready to guide them and raise them. All while keeping herself distant from everyone. Her eye rolls are Q while smiling softly and adoringly at Junior. She's such a proud aunty when it comes to him.

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So .... Like .... We can all agree that Q Junior pulls little trick to snag Icheb out of the jaws of death while also not actually changing the timeline ..... Right?
"Please, Aunt Kathy, your my only hope"
She's the Obi-Wan of the Trek universe.
Q Jr: ugh she's boring why did you pick her?
Q: to late to ask Jean Luc
Kathryn: I do not have time for this
Q: to late, Junior is coming to visit
Q Jr: immediately causes chaos, drops a comment about liking Aunt Kathy but her not having Q powers, continues to cause chaos
Janeway with Tuvok: I'm the only one allowed to cause chaos on my ship
Tuvok: He is encroaching upon our territory
Janeway: coffee black
The Computer: make it yourself
This whole entire episode is so much fun. She is so done by this point and then Junior fuses Neelix's jaw and Janeway is ready to just ground Junior into the next century. Only for him to have sent the Borg on her and she is just immediately going into combat while his dad shows up like "don't provoke the Borg" and I just laugh so hard because sir you did first.
Watching "Human Error" right now and it's not that surprising during this watch this time the whole Chakotay thing in it (her and Chakotay do actually have multiple conversations before this where he helps her understand things so logically for her for this he be someone she is comfortable with and thus safe exploring - however still in the boat of the show didn't need to do romance for Seven) .... I honestly think this episode would be so much more interesting if it explore Seven's comfort amongst the crew.
She's been socializing a bit more by S7, welcomed more by the senior staff, but she's still living in the cargo bay and not in a uniform like the rest of the crew. It be such a great episode if it was more about her feeling isolated from the crew because she's still different. She's not one of them and it stands out. Her Borgness is obvious and blatant and the closer they get to Earth the more she questions if anyone there would welcome her. It be such a good episode to get into the "how can I be certain I'd be welcomed, when" episode
Tom having no awareness that B'Elanna is even his wife or carrying his child in "Workforce" yet still being so protective of her and seeing to it that she meets other individuals who are expecting. Taking care of her and being so concerned when she goes missing. Hounding the local police force for any and all updates on her. He would have ended up with her again not even knowing they were already in love because he saw her and fell in love all over again.

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Tom having no awareness that B'Elanna is even his wife or carrying his child in "Workforce" yet still being so protective of her and seeing to it that she meets other individuals who are expecting. Taking care of her and being so concerned when she goes missing. Hounding the local police force for any and all updates on her. He would have ended up with her again not even knowing they were already in love because he saw her and fell in love all over again.
I love that in "Workforce" Tuvok's memories that return are of Janeway at first. Like, his memories make it clear that other crew are around as well but it's his best friend. His Captain. The one he always is eager to protect that he remembers after his brain starts to show him glimpses of his what happened to him. He sees hinself not able to protect her. Her being pulled away, his demands for answers on what they are doing to her. And then he goes to her desperately all "you know me, we know each other" and in her altered state she is like "what?"
They tore my space besties apart and one of them still called out to the other while the other is like "this is weird but " and then when Chakotay finally shows up and is before her Janeway is like "you know what this is starting to seem legit *traces his forehead like something is missing*"
Star Trek The Next Generation "Symbiosis"
You know, watching Tuvok go all security in this episode while Janeway defends the bridge really has me wanting to know who was the officer at Starfleet that had to deal with this Vulcan returning to Starfleet and looking them in the eye after getting reinstated and getting the "back into sciences I take it" style question only to hear "No, I shall be taking up security and tactical this time"
Can you imagine the Starfleet officers during that time? The one handling his reinstatement paperwork just signing off like "who ticked off this Vulcan and are we okay?"
The tactics course instructor welcoming their next class only to look up and see a Vulcan there and having a "oh, okay. That's what we are doing now" moment
The next instructor got sent a message about Tuvok and thought it was a joke. Only for Tuvok to walk in and is like "it's not a joke. Maybe a prank?"
And it just continues until finally they are all very aware and very "he has the highest scores and this terrifying"
I know it's a bit of a joke for Tuvok and Neelix to be paired up in "Prophecy" but I find it strange that it's implied Chakotay does that. Like, he knows the crew and who would bunk well together and yes a lot of this would also boil down to "sorry just have to deal" but you have 140(ish) crew split up on 7 decks already. Deck 3 is the Captain and most likely Chakotay. Then deck 2, 4, 8, 9, and 13 are more quarters and 11 apparently has more quarters where environmental controls can do special comfort for crew that require different needs (this is from memory alpha and honestly given environmental controls can be adjusted per area on the ship it makes no sense for a single deck to have that not unless it's meant as a guest deck but Voyager is a science exploratory vessel not a diplomacy vessel, so unless they altered the deck due to situation I don't see why one deck be "special"). Supposedly Tuvok is on deck 6, but given he is Vulcan and would need unique environmental controls for comfort 11 would make more sense plus he is senior staff - specifically security/tactical so deck 3 actually makes the most sense.
Anyways, my point is there is a lot of quarters on Voyager. I pulled up the blueprints once and actually counted before because I was curious. They likely keep some empty specifically for guests and diplomats. However, given the situation many that are usually doubled up as is probably aren't any more. Maybe a few, simply to conserve power, but reasonable Voyager actually has the space for their 140 to have their own quarters. This ship can hold - per memory beta - 200 people. Which we do see in Voyager that it does hold more. Even in this episode alone it is carrying two ships worth of people.
The doubling up MAKES sense in this episode. My concern is ... The way it's done. It seems to be more a joke so Neelix can make a mess out for Tuvok's space (yet again disrespecting Tuvok - don't get me wrong I love Neelix and Tuvok friendship just hate the way the show constantly has Neelix ignore Tuvok's comfort, space, and boundaries).
Not to mention the moment doubling up is brought up you are telling me that Tuvok, Chakotay, and Janeway wouldn't have all gotten themselves on the list because they are very much aware of the logic of leading by example. And then proceeded to just .... Toss the three of themselves into the Captains quarters? Chakotay then would have had B'Elanna and Tom move into his quarters as it's securely away from the other decks and easier to keep them from being exposed by accident during this time. Seven doesn't need to double up and for Neelix he would have actually gone to the Wildman's and seen if she be willing to have Neelix stay with her during that time. As he already helps to take care of Naomi and it would help to ensure Naomi has constant supervision during this time.
This is the only thing about this episode that tends to bug me. The pairing up of quarters is what is weird.

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Something something Worf and B'Elanna both being disconnected from their Klingon heritage yet both also being deeply connected to Klingon culture and religion due to various things.
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And I shall because now I am on "Prophecy" and that was part of what got me to make this post as I was watching "Barge of the Dead" because like .... in "Barge of the Dead" you have a moment in the whole false vision before B'Elanna is on the barge where the flyer is simply damaged but she is rescued and recovered. The damaged is discovered to have been caused by debris from a Klingon ship. Specifically a Klingon ship from a few hundred years ago. Mind you, we then learn from "Prophecy" that the Klingons did in fact head for the DQ "more than a hundred years ago". Similar things happen for Worf in TNG (and continue with DS9). TNG is very heavy from the start with him on the "he was raised by humans, look Klingon not raised with his people" reminders. Even if it's in the smallest of ways they make sure we KNOW this all while being certain we know just how much Worf VALUES being Klingon. While its almost reverse for B'Elanna. She is raised primarily by her mother after her father leaves but she holds little to no value to her Klingon heritage BECAUSE of the disconnect that happened as a result of her fathers side of the family. The disconnect for both of them is different but it results in both of them looking at Klingon stuff BEFORE they have events unfold around them differently as well. Worf values it immensely (he wants that connection back), while B'Elanna doesn't (she is content to not have the connection). For Worf the series starts by slowly introducing Klingons around him. From ones that just want to fight and face battle again - conflict "will he pick Enterprise or the Klingons?" - to the Duras drama of it all (the rise and fall of Worf's honor a saga brought to you by the Klingon High Council). Then to top it off you get the whole Kahless clone and Kahless Bat'leth attached to Worf as well. Qo'nos as it becomes by the end of DS9 could not be what it becomes without Worf. It couldn't even have Martok as it Chancellor without Worf. The one Klingon that nearly every single individual in the High Command was happy to reject at one point is THAT crucial to the story and history of 24th Century Qo'nos. Meanwhile, you then have B'Elanna who was so adament about not being Klingon she tried to go Starfleet, failed out of that and went Maquis. She just needed somewhere to place all her internal frustrations in truth. And it took getting lost across space - and someone to accept her (Tom romantically and an entire ship as her family) - for her to begin to even accept her Klingon self. And it still took her landing on the Barge of the Dead for her to actually let her Klingon heritage begin to grow and that was all because if she didn't her mother would be dishonored. And THIS particular ritual is one that Kahless himself went through to save someone he cared for from dishonor - thus connecting B'Elanna to Kahless as well. And then in "Prophecy" you have a group of Klingons who left Qo'nos specifically so they could find the Kuvah'Magh - the savior of their people. You know just a very ancient prophecy that there would be a Klingon savior born under very specific circumstances in a distant region of space .... oh wait *looks at B'Elanna currently pregnant* It's almost like Worf and B'Elanna being two individuals who struggle with their identity and who they are and being disconnected in their own ways from their culture and their homeworld then becoming the very individuals destined to ensure that their homeworld would go on to become central figures to that culture and homeworld is just .... I love it okay. It's such a powerful thing for a show to do. To say that you don't always have to be the born and raised and have had that connection since before you entered the world (also valid characters) but that you can be someone who was disconnected, who wasn't raised in it, who struggles with it, who isn't sure about the place you come from .... but you still can IMPACT it. You can still be someone of importance and value and change that very world and culture because YOU MATTER.
Watching "Lineage" right now and I know it's an episode that gets looked at with some judgement because of what B'Elanna does but .... After everything with my dad and things with myself ... I do understand.
Like, Tom SAID the right things the moment they first see the image of their projected daughter. But for B'Elanna all she heard was her childhood. Where her being like her mother, her being to Klingon was a problem. Not just from her father but those around her. She was judged for it. She faced prejudices for it. And while Tom has never done that to her and has been a loving part of her life - a healing part - just as she has to his .... Its not always easy to deal with a new trigger. And that is what this is.
Having a child is new, all that comes with that is new. For me, I've yet to have one but I already question if I did it they'd inherit things from my family. From me. I could easily see myself slipping into what B'Elanna did if I was presented the image of my child with certain genetic traits. Now, none of them are physical for me but if we had the means to do what the EMH did and project the image then do a "also, your child has the genetic markers that indicate they likely will developed dementia as they age" I would likely immediately be all "okay can we remove those?"
Is it right? No. The episode isn't about what she did being right, it's about realizing this isn't easy for her. That everyone finding out with seconds made it harder and she didn't get to even process and deal. That having stuff thrown at her immediately and Tom then saying "just like her mother" sent her into a spiral. She had no time to actually hear "congratulations you're pregnant" then process that. Because the whole ship knew AS she was being told. She had no peace, no privacy with it. Then the curvature of the spine is the next day.
She spiraled so fast and she just needed to actually be able to process the news without everyone knowing it. Her and Tom discussing it before the whole ship went at them and they got news about the child's health. I think if the two of them got to talk first any fears and concerns they had could have been pulled up first. For both of them, then by the time the curvature of the spine bit happened Tom's "just like her mother line" would have hit less and he would have also known it could be a potential trigger and word it different.