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So I guess I'm doing this. Kicking this off with some disclaimers.
I don't have a problem with the team putting together a Patreon. Developers need money to live. Get that bag.
I admittedly don't have much experience with Patreon either as a creator or a patron. I might be operating under misconceptions or make incorrect assumptions of what is and isn't effective when running a Patreon. A lot of this is coming from a very subjective perspective of what I think things are worth. To me.
I sincerely welcome any and all commentary or criticism on this post. It's mostly rambling, so I'll gladly try to clarify some points if asked about it. On that note, this isn't like, a full on debate. Let's be chill.
Let's get this started.
Now why am I rambling here? In short, I feel like the Patreon isn't set up to be as accessible or fair to the community as it could be. I am very aware that ultimately not everyone will be able to support the game in this way. Life is hard, and people can't always get what they want. But I think things could still be improved to make more people happy, and potentially more money for the team.
Tiers aren't the best they could be
As of writing, there are four tiers.
$1 tip jar with no benefits. This was added after it was suggested in the Discord.
$5 "Kit" - General support, behind-the-scenes content, work-in-progress updates (digital), Patreon Discord channel, and Discord access.
$10 "Domestic" - All previous benefits and a "domestic supporter" personal credit on the credits page of the game at launch.
$20 "Mystic" - All previous benefits, a "mystic supporter" personal credit on the credits page of the game at launch, and access to exclusive community polls.
As I said in my disclaimer, my opinions are extremely subjective to what I think things are worth, but something about the pricing scheme is incredibly unbalanced to me. Why does it go 5, 10, 20 instead of 5, 10, 15? I see that it's doubling from the last tier, but why? Especially when the added benefits are.. pretty minimal? A credit on the site for an added $5 from the lowest tier, but it's $15 for a different credit title and polls. People can ultimately spend their money however they want, but this seems like a bad deal.
Not only that, but I feel like it's a HUGE missed opportunity to not have a $3 tier (we could call it "Fauna" or something) with minimal benefits. If $5 is for everything, $3 could just be the Discord benefit. (Though if you ask me, I've more often than not seen $1 tiers be used for a Discord role so 🤷). If just Discord isn't a good enough deal, then they could do low resolution images of the previews or something. I think it's also fair enough to say a hypothetical $3 tier wouldn't get a credit, but on that note...
Why no Kit credit?
It was stated in the recent Kickstarter post that all backers will have a credit on the site. This is a good thing, but seeing as the lowest tier for the Kickstarter was $5, it feels unfair to me that the Kit doesn't seem to get a credit. Especially considering the fact that the Kickstarter was a one time payment.
It'll only take another month for a Kit supporter to spend more than the lowest KS tier and not receive a credit. There's already an upcharge of a different credit title when going from Domestic to Mystic, so why leave Kit out of it completely? I just don't get it.
Concerns on Discord
If the credit situation is unfair to Patrons, then I'll be honest, I think doing Discord integration is unfair to Kickstarter backers. I am aware that Patreon has tools for Discord integration that Kickstarter (last I checked) doesn't, but like, if we've already gone this far without exclusive roles or channels for people who have financially supported the project, why start now? On top of that, I think having a Patreon exclusive channel in the main server is a bad idea for a number of reasons.
First, it will create a divide in the community based on money. There are already locked channels based on Borough affiliation, but that is an extension of the game and not connected to money. I don't think Discord integration will create a literal class divide among the players, I have a lot more faith in the community than that, but again, if this wasn't done for the Kickstarter, why start now?
Second, I think there's a bit too much risk when it comes to keeping exclusive content exclusive. I think almost everyone has sent a message to the wrong channel at least once in their life. It ultimately won't be a big deal if someone accidentally makes mention of something in the public channels, but that's still something to moderate for, y'know?
Third, the Discord has already been stated to be temporary, where it'll be phased out sometime after launch. Why include paid benefits for something that isn't going to last? The next alternative to this is to integrate Patreon into the site forums somehow, but Blue already said that wasn't gonna happen.
In conclusion
Idk I think it could be better. I'd love to cough up $3 a month for blurry images. $5 for crisp ones is too much for me right now. That is all.
I'm not the best person to ask in anything relating to patreon or subscriptions, as I've always been a stingy mf. But like... the only thing worth actually getting is the smaller polls, in order to have your opinions have a minor affect on the game (like a piece of apparel is being made and the poll is "should the red variation be this shade of red or this shade of red?").
Pricing that at $20 though? That's worth multiple basic plans of streaming services and memberships. In my eyes, there better be at least one poll a day, or seven polls given once a week, to justify someone of moderate income sparing another $20 of monthly fees on paw borough over anything else.
(even if there were like, 50 polls a month, I'm so stingy that I'd only consider it if it was priced at $5 a month, and even I realize that's heavily underselling, so I'm clearly not the target demographic for this patreon)
As for the more frequent wips offered at the lower tiers... the development of this game has a massive following. It takes only one rotten egg with little integrity to use this as a way of raking in an easy audience for a few seconds of fame, by leaking wips for the cheap people like me.
I do want PB to make good money, and I have no doubt they will get a lot of patrons no matter what the tiers offer. My opinion on this matter is a grain of salt since I'm not someone who would ever spend money through Patreon, but I can still give my general thoughts out of desire for PB to succeed.
Apart from one person asking a question about it and another having what I believe is an Incorrect answer about it, I'm pleasantly surprised that nobody seems to give a fuck about hares and bison being edible
I voted yes for the new thing because I specifically wanted an item that would let users swap between longhairs and moontails without restriction. Same amount of potential gen1s for the breeds to keep it KS exclusive, but with room for those with breeding projects to have a slightly easier time getting their desired cat.
Otherwise I didn't really have any preference regarding using the borough stones to both change breed and swap between domestic/mythic.
May make minor adjustments between now and open beta, but here we are! Also heavily depends on what staff end up deciding in regards to line breaking pelts.
Though I do think her name will be Eclipse, one of the three co-founders of the Kitsugi crime syndicate. She is the head that keeps track of their info broking services.
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God forgive me but ngl I'm a little tempted to create an anonrerising equivalent but for PB. Idk something about the format fascinates me and it draws such a vastly different crowd than the salt blogs of Tumblr
So I'm not too well versed on ARR (< abbreviated form) so my understanding is gonna be limited and possibly wrong but from what I can see its a deamwidth blog where the admin will make a main post every few months and then start comment chains that visitors can anonymously join via commenting and viola! salt generation commences. Like I said in the OP and tags I'm really drawn to the format for a couple of reasons, though maybe I'm just tired of the tumblr salt blog format lol.. lmao even.
I will say though that ARR also has vastly different etiquette and rules compared to the tumblr format like not forbidding full namedrops (and thus being kinda peeved by the "[Letter] from [Location]" censor format) which is a big double edged sword and whatever. Oh and the anonymous posting isn't really 100% anonymous technically, since admins are able to check the IP addresses of posts. So like, if you ever identify yourself or drop enough hints that you can be identified, the admins will know your IP address unless you use a VPN or something, which some people might be put off by.
[linking it here if you or anyone wants to check it out]
God forgive me but ngl I'm a little tempted to create an anonrerising equivalent but for PB. Idk something about the format fascinates me and it draws such a vastly different crowd than the salt blogs of Tumblr
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since i dont see anyone posting in the tags just floored by the new gene concept art. its stunning. its such a lovely change that im excited to see more assets for going forward, it really helps to avoid a bunch of blank space with the more detailed. rendering? and makes things feel more intentional. im very happy to see the other color palettes (and more colors, too??? wow!)
Okay but if we are gonna talk about the tiger gene glow-up, can we also show some of the before/afters?
Because just look at them!! (Credit to Crow on Discord for making the comparison edit) It looks so much more tabby like, and more future-proof in terms of popularity for when there’s inevitably going to be more colorful and ornate genes years down the line.
Kitsugi overlay real? I think I’m gonna name him Yutaka. He is the treasurer of the syndicate, with an absolute obsession with wealth and riches. As a businessman, he makes sure to maximize the group’s profit.
His sentience was granted to him when he disturbed the resting place of an ancient mewmoian wizard, absorbing the vast amount of cat magic it held. The oddity was soon captured by the SCP foundation, where he remained contained for years. He was able to escape in the chaos of the facility being destroyed. From there he used his magic to hide within the Metropolis.
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